NCAA Tourney: Why is Auburn on the bubble??
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Because the rest of the bubble is atrocious
6 wins vs field including #1 seed and #3 sos
They will have to get to at least 18-16 though. 19-16 makes them likely
Any expansion of the tourney will add more .500 schools to the at large pool
6 wins vs field including #1 seed and #3 sos
They will have to get to at least 18-16 though. 19-16 makes them likely
Any expansion of the tourney will add more .500 schools to the at large pool
At some point you have to value wins over strength of schedule.
they have 6 wins vs the field ncluding Florida a #1 seed so we are valuing wins
non conference sos was insane...beat St Johns, NC State and lost to Michigan, Arizona, Houston and Purdue
also have wins over NCAA boud Queens and projected AQ Bethune Cookman and beat regular season MAAC champ Merrimack
non conference sos was insane...beat St Johns, NC State and lost to Michigan, Arizona, Houston and Purdue
also have wins over NCAA boud Queens and projected AQ Bethune Cookman and beat regular season MAAC champ Merrimack
And keep in mind that their home loss against Alabama (by 4) was one of those few games that Bediako played (scoring 12 points while going 5-5 from the field). Can't suddenly count it as a win, but it is a consideration when you lose a tight game against an opponent using an ineligible player.
They have more work to do, but them being on the bubble isn't the travesty that many seem to see it as...they're a top 40-45ish type team that played an extremely difficult schedule.
They have more work to do, but them being on the bubble isn't the travesty that many seem to see it as...they're a top 40-45ish type team that played an extremely difficult schedule.
They are the anti-MiamiOH. Miami OH played mostly scrubs but are undefeated. Auburn played like the top 6 teams in the AP poll, with 3 or 4 complete torchings, one close loss, and one upset.
what matters more - playing easy games and winning them all, or playing all hard games and winning one? If so, why not everyone schedule like this? Get credit for just stepping on the court and losing by 30 to all top teams, go .500 basically against the normal teams, and boom you’re in. I don’t like it.
what matters more - playing easy games and winning them all, or playing all hard games and winning one? If so, why not everyone schedule like this? Get credit for just stepping on the court and losing by 30 to all top teams, go .500 basically against the normal teams, and boom you’re in. I don’t like it.
But is that really a true characterization of what they've done? "winning one"? In addition to a win at Florida, they also beat outright Big East Champ St John's on a neutral court, beat Arkansas, beat Kentucky, NC State, Texas...those "normal" teams are two 5 seeds, a 7 seed, and two 10 seeds. This is where something like the "WAB" metric tells you what a "normal" bubble team would do against their schedule...and it looks favorably on them.
I don't think that Auburn should be in the field today or anything, but it's crazy how some think that someone like Navy or Akron has a better resume.
The issue is 16 losses would be historic
19-16 would get them there...18-16 will be big debate but 50/50
18-16 I believe Oklahoma WBB got in over CViv’s Rutgers team in her last hurrah IIRC and was ridiculous
Would you put Navy in or Seton Hall or Indiana or USC simply because they have more wins?
they likely won’t get in and would need multiple quality wins to get on the right side anyway so it’ll probably be a moot point
No more year exemplifies why the Big East is going to not only going to have to schedule strong OOC schools but win them too.
I don't really think it's that clear cut...we know how little stock the committee likes to put into the games this week (every year, results on Thursday/Friday/Saturday aren't reflected in the final bracket nearly as much as everyone slingshots teams in their own projections). Each win helps them incrementally more...my question is if winning tomorrow/Friday takes them from 20% to 35% to 50%, or 45% to 60% to 75%.
Also still have many potential bid stealers out there that can make their position much more precarious than it is today...A10, MAC, Mountain West, Big East, another shocker in ACC/B1G/SEC/B12?, a surprising South Florida bid if they lost in the title game?, etc.. I'd say the o/u on bubble spots shrinking due to bid thieves would be 1.5, and I'd lean over.