Ferrari/Welsh non stall calls and singlet grabs

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This forum is great. Whining and crying about not getting stall calls or grabbed singlets. Instead of worrying about the glaring lack of offensive points. Never change, HR. You guys are truly special.
As opposed to the PSU mindset of "we're so good that the rules don't matter"? Except for when it benefits you of course, like when Mark Hall was gifted a title for a Valencia singlet pull
 

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I heard that a lot after the duel. “It’s gonna be different at big tens” lol
Dual**

And I like Angelo with another couple of weeks to get healthy and back into shape. Also, if you’ve ever wrestled, you’d know it’s extremely difficult to win those close matches vs a top guy 3 times in a row. Hopefully we get to see it in Cleveland.
 
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Angleo got in deep, had Rocco in the air, why did he walk to the edge of the mat to plant him and try to finish? Walk to the center an finish in the middle. Twice ir happened then look to the reff fo a stall call. Earning a stall call is partially about selling it. Hustle to the center, act like you want to be there. Angleo walking to the edge then slow to the middle doesn't help the narrative and "earn" a stall call. Neither wrestled to win, both were trying not to lose.
 
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Angleo got in deep, had Rocco in the air, why did he walk to the edge of the mat to plant him and try to finish? Walk to the center an finish in the middle. Twice ir happened then look to the reff fo a stall call. Earning a stall call is partially about selling it. Hustle to the center, act like you want to be there. Angleo walking to the edge then slow to the middle doesn't help the narrative and "earn" a stall call. Neither wrestled to win, both were trying not to lose.

That’s a great question. Oh wait it’s because Rocco kept kicking back towards out of bounds every time Angelo tried and that’s how he eventually freed his leg was by kicking all the way out and thus stalling…
 

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I don’t really care about the stalling/not stalling questions, especially at 184. When you get a top 5-10 matchup at 184, it’s almost always a 2-1, 3-2, SV, or TB match. Everyone of them is so afraid of making a mistake that they wait for the right opportunity to try something. The stalking debate comes down to the refs, the matchups, and the perception of how the match is going. Not worth wasting time thinking about.

The singlet pulls are frustrating. They directly changed the outcome of the match. Welsh won by 4 seconds of riding time in TB’s. Two of the singlet pulls occurred in TB’s when Ferrari was trying to escape. Either one of those could have prevented Ferrari from escaping. Maybe, maybe not but it’s no different than grabbing a guys shoe laces or locking hands. It’s an illegal advantage.

The most egregious pull was on the takedown attempt. Ferrari was elevating Welsh and was adjusting him to tip when Welsh grabbed the singlet to keep his balance. I have no idea how none of the coaches saw it. I have no idea how two refs missed it. There’s no denying that it happened. That’s a 3 point takedown negated in a match that went to SV.

There’s no way to go back and fix it. It is what it is. I’m just hoping that this comes up when the refs do their post-tournament review and discussion. This sort of stuff can’t happen at nationals.
My question if it was so obvious why didn't the brands throw a brick?
 

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I am really enjoying this thread.
The one guy throwing out the pedstate insult . Great job. Not even going into it.
The singlet pull costing Ferrari the match . I could go to a youth novice tournament and a singlet strap isn't going to hold a 6 year old down. Its elastic. Does anyone really believe sliding Ferrari shoulder strap around cost him the match ?
 

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I am really enjoying this thread.
The one guy throwing out the pedstate insult . Great job. Not even going into it.
The singlet pull costing Ferrari the match . I could go to a youth novice tournament and a singlet strap isn't going to hold a 6 year old down. Its elastic. Does anyone really believe sliding Ferrari shoulder strap around cost him the match ?
Then why do they have a rule against it that awards a point?

Weird heh? 😂😂😂
 
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I am really enjoying this thread.
The one guy throwing out the pedstate insult . Great job. Not even going into it.
The singlet pull costing Ferrari the match . I could go to a youth novice tournament and a singlet strap isn't going to hold a 6 year old down. Its elastic. Does anyone really believe sliding Ferrari shoulder strap around cost him the match ?
Dude your program is a stain on the sport. Stop laughing and leaving laughing emojis at people insulting Penn State and root for your favorite school to start losing more because it's what's best for the sport of college wrestling.

You little f*** tw*ts banded together for years and rooted for that for Iowa because you felt that way, so you can do the same for Penn State.

Take off your blinders and see how they've ruined the sport you enjoy rooting so hard for.

Thanks in advance and kindly.....

go away gtfo GIF
 
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CHILLER

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Dude your program is a stain on the sport. Stop laughing and leaving laughing emojis at people insulting Penn State and root for your favorite school to start losing more because it's what's best for the sport of college wrestling.

You little f*** ***** banded together for years and rooted for that for Iowa because you felt that way, so you can do the same for Penn State.

Take off your blinders and see how they've ruined the sport you enjoy rooting so hard for.

Thanks in advance and kindly.....


What country are you from ? It can't be the USA the way you speak. I don't speak ebonics. Can a real american citizen translate for me ?
 
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What country are you from ? It can't be the USA the way you speak. I don't speak ebonics. Can a real american citizen translate for me ?
Ahh good, we've found a racist Penn State fan. I can work with this, and use it as karma against his favorite team.

See, fellas, how much fun this can be? 😎
 
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CHILLER

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When you cry racism for no reason you exposed yourself. I look at everyone exactly the same. I am a senior citizen , every time the guy calling racism is the racist. I am calling you out looser. You are the racist.
 

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I am really enjoying this thread.
The one guy throwing out the pedstate insult . Great job. Not even going into it.
The singlet pull costing Ferrari the match . I could go to a youth novice tournament and a singlet strap isn't going to hold a 6 year old down. Its elastic. Does anyone really believe sliding Ferrari shoulder strap around cost him the match ?
So you are saying it is not illegal?
 
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When you cry racism for no reason you exposed yourself. I look at everyone exactly the same. I am a senior citizen , every time the guy calling racism is the racist. I am calling you out looser. You are the racist.
Ha ha, you old fart. That's one down. Karma is real buddy
 

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ok so just making sure we both agree that neither NCAA Finalist Welsh nor 5x Champ and notorious sexual deviant Carter Starocci could take down a freshman with 27 minutes of wrestling. Got it.
Speculation like that aside your guy can't finish the job.
 

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Agreed. The loss to Welsh in that fashion only happens in Happy Valley. I don’t think Angelo loses to him again, maybe ever. And I think everyone knows it including PSU fans deep down. Hope it’s another QF match at Nationals.
He'll lose every single time.
That’s a great question. Oh wait it’s because Rocco kept kicking back towards out of bounds every time Angelo tried and that’s how he eventually freed his leg was by kicking all the way out and thus stalling…
so Ferrari has the strength that he could just pick Welsh off the Matt but he can't pull him back into the center when he has one leg up in here? Oh ok. He just wants to wrestle on the edge , that way if he makes a mistake he has less than of a chance to get caught in a scramble.
 

JoeBagobagels

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I am really enjoying this thread.
The one guy throwing out the pedstate insult . Great job. Not even going into it.
The singlet pull costing Ferrari the match . I could go to a youth novice tournament and a singlet strap isn't going to hold a 6 year old down. Its elastic. Does anyone really believe sliding Ferrari shoulder strap around cost him the match ?
Ferrari could pick Welsh off the Mat, but he's thrown off balance by a tug on a singlet. It's like quantum physics or shroedinger's goldfish.
 

JoeBagobagels

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Dude your program is a stain on the sport. Stop laughing and leaving laughing emojis at people insulting Penn State and root for your favorite school to start losing more because it's what's best for the sport of college wrestling.

You little f*** ***** banded together for years and rooted for that for Iowa because you felt that way, so you can do the same for Penn State.

Take off your blinders and see how they've ruined the sport you enjoy rooting so hard for.

Thanks in advance and kindly.....

go away gtfo GIF
I've tried to watch an Iowa match that didn't involve Penn State and if you wanna talk about ruining the sport.........
 
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I've tried to watch an Iowa match that didn't involve Penn State and if you wanna talk about ruining the sport.........
Yes, let's talk about Penn State ruining the sport. Let's figure out ways to get rid of them so they are no longer a hindrance to the other 70+ wrestling programs in Division 1.

Alabama/Nick Saban was willing to make that sacrifice and now we're at a point where f***ing Indiana won a national championship in football.

Your favorite little butt-rubbing circle jerk program can f*** off and die for the good of its sport too. Hope that helps! 😃
 

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This forum is great. Whining and crying about not getting stall calls or grabbed singlets. Instead of worrying about the glaring lack of offensive points. Never change, HR. You guys are truly special.
thats all anyone talks about dipshit... PSU fans are worthless at everything except sticking up for .... nevermind im not allowed to bring that up anymore
 

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I am really enjoying this thread.
The one guy throwing out the pedstate insult . Great job. Not even going into it.
The singlet pull costing Ferrari the match . I could go to a youth novice tournament and a singlet strap isn't going to hold a 6 year old down. Its elastic. Does anyone really believe sliding Ferrari shoulder strap around cost him the match ?
Yes, grabbing the singlet can prevent someone from finishing a move and cost them the match.
It's the only reason the singlet grab is done is to stop their opponent from scoring.
It's pretty obvious you never wrestled.
Singlet grabs like Rocco's would get called at the World Championships and the Olympics.
 

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As opposed to the PSU mindset of "we're so good that the rules don't matter"? Except for when it benefits you of course, like when Mark Hall was gifted a title for a Valencia singlet pull
Rules matter, but if you play it so close to the vest one judgment call going the other way can lose it for you. Don't leave it in the official's hands.
 

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When you cry racism for no reason you exposed yourself. I look at everyone exactly the same. I am a senior citizen , every time the guy calling racism is the racist. I am calling you out looser. You are the racist.
So by this logic, when you cry looser, are you the looser? Or when you rebut, "you are the racist", are you the racist? I can't keep up but do want to be sure I understand the logic rules here before I respond more. Do I call myself an a$$hat if I think that's what you are?
 
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