I am so glad that Jan is a better coach than the person please that post in this forum.
*****Michigan vs Iowa BTT Game Thread*****
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I am so glad that Jan is a better coach than the person please that post in this forum.
Oh cmon. Feurbach is an absolute elite defender. She was nails today. You did notice Michigan scored 42 pts, right? I get that she’s not good offensively but she is great defensively. Deal is still learning. And she continues to get passes deflected into the post. Constantly. She’s had good moments but right now she’s getting the time she deserves. Hopefully next year she takes the jump we need her to make.
So you think 3 turnovers in 11 minutes of play is a problem? Is that what you're saying? You're being unfair.
I mean it’s amazing the **** that gets spewed during the game thread. Please sit Hannah, an elite defender who can guard any position in the front court and was possibly the toughest player on the court today.
Please. Olsen and Swords would be the starting 2/3 on this team without question. You can't judge their 2 seasons by the last 2 games we played.Ava, Hannah, CCW and Olsen, swords the 5 best players. Overall they have more GAME READY depth then we do as a roster. I'd argue that its Iowa that's winning with their style of play. Jan has sold this team on defensive intensity and the offense running off that. As a whole this is not an overlly talented offensive team. (Look at the numbers). For the record Michigans class from 2 years ago was top 2 or 3 in college basketball, so the industry would not agree with your assessment.
I'd agree that currently Deal hasn't played up to Stremlows production. I'd like to table the who has more talent a year or so. Certainly no one plays with more heart or grit then Taylor. We've kind of dubbed her Syd2.0 but frankly I think that's under selling her. Syd was a dog, but I'd say Strem has more game then Syd ever showed.
So to be clear is the problem feeding the post when double and triple teamed an "Addie issue" How many TO's did Kylie, and Hannah have forcing balls into Heiden when guarded by multiple defenders? The only player who did not force the ball in was CCW who had one TO.
Let's just be honest about it. Stremlow is twice the player that Addie is today and is playing at an extremely high level. Next year is next year and if she can approach Strem's level the perimeter is set for the next few years.
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This team is really really good. Bring on UCLA, never know what can happen. Fantastic to be back in the title game once again
Good thing "talent" doesn't equal wins then right? The most "talent" in the world doesn't mean anything at the end of a game when the scoreboard says the "talent" is once again losing by 17 (or 18). Hopefully come ncaa tournament time they can trade in those recruiting rankings for points.
SO when did I say Deal should have played more the last couple of games? Please explain where I said that. Maybe go back and watch the number of TO's by Hannah and Kylie today trying to feed the post. My comment was that several posters seem to think that Deals the problem. What did we have 20 TO's. How many of those were by our two "hardened experienced" senior leaders? This seems to me to be a system and spacing problem more then just individual players. I'd add that your post makes it sound like Kylie is out there stopping all five players by herself. There were a lot of solid defensive plays by most of the players who saw time, (including Deal by the way). You don't hold a team who averages 85 points to 43 in each of two games without outstanding overall TEAM defense.
The problem isn't just feeding the post. Addie is simply making too many mistakes today. In the last 2 games she's had 7 turnovers in 29 minutes of play. Her assist to t/o ratio is terrible. Unfortunately Kylie has also been terrible in that respect but Jan has her out there for other reasons. Stremlow had 3 turnovers today but 6 assists and in the 5 games prior nearly a 4-1 assist to turnover ratio which is outstanding.
So why is it people take someones post and twist it into something they never said? This is an all the time thing here. I NEVER said I didn't like OUR team. NEVER said that. I never said we didn't outplay them TWICE in the last 10 days or whatever. I responded to the poster saying they have less talent then Iowa. I don't think you'd find many people outside Iowa who'd agree with that statement. That's what I said. Twist away.....
You know your right. I'll stop posting anything positive in the threads while several posters rant about how terrible she is. Just a question of Deals 4 TO yesterday, how many were in that cluster F--- 4Q when Jan put the deep bench in an had Addie play the point against the press and everyone else stood around with their collective thumbs up their rear ends?
Great win in an ugly game. We looked good for half the first quarter and the 4th quarter. The part in the middle was ugly but fortunately Michigan was ugly even more. This team plays hard, they play way better defense under Jan. The turnovers on the outside are a constant along with forcing the post at times. They need to get some guard help big time in the off season. Stremlow has obviously grown and Chit has been great but we can't sit with what we have. Addie will hopefully figure it out but right now she is a step behind and often seems unsure. She mishandles the ball often, travels and lot, telegraphs passes frequently and often seems out of sync during her shots. She just seems to play tight and unsure. When she gets the ball it's often like she is only thinking about unloading it to someone else.
I would say the same for Addie as you say about Kylie. She is the best we have at driving and creating her own shot.
The refs called the offenses tight and let the defenses play very physical. Neither offense had a chance.
You’re missing the point my man. Feurbach gets a bit of a free pass because she is elite on defense. Shes a top 5 defensive player in this league. If she wasn’t she wouldn’t get the time she gets because yes, she’s not great offensively. And obviously you don’t hold a very good Michigan team to 42 pts by yourself. Great team defense today.
I am loving reading the posts about how physical the other teams play.
Our team is one of the most physical teams I have seen play defense. It was once a weaknesses of Iowa...now it is a strength.
It's really impressive how fast they can get around screens or switch defenders to slam the door on open lanes. They're smart out there, but also very fast. Has to be frustrating for teams like Michigan who are used to scoring 80+ just to see their reads and options disappear.
You didn't. It's just this narrative in some people's minds that's been out there all year, and continues today that Addie is more talented than Stremlow and needed to play more minutes for Iowa to reach its potential this year. We've seen virtually nothing that would indicate that this was true, and to the contrary, it has been Strem's ascendance to the starting lineup that has taken this team to another level. She's the real Deal and people still stating that she's too slow and not athletic enough to compete against the best players in the country seem clueless at this point.
I never said you didn't like the team either, two can play the twisting game. You were talking about talent which is such a subjective thing to evaluate. Other than wins and losses how can you determine if one team has more talent? For such "game ready" depth, how do they put up half their season totals in each game? I like the fire that Olson plays with and the fearlessness of Swords to always take the next shot regardless of how the prior one went. But 2 losses by an average of 17.5 doesn't lead anyone to believe that Michigan is vastly more talented than Iowa. One blowout, sure sh*t happens. But 2? Well now that may just be a pattern.
(Maybe this is more of a reply that regardless of result people have to find something to bemoan. Enjoy the ride for a bit)
Ava has made such a difference in the post. Last year O'Grady would do great if she had a size advantage, but would crumble against players like McMahon or Murkowski. Ava doesn't crumble. She might struggle because she's getting tripled or the refs are calling fouls on her, but she doesn't crumble.
So what you’re saying is Iowas coaching staff has put their team in position to beat the superior Michigan team badly twice? How can that be? The assistants have no input, Jan claps to much and never questions the officials calls. how can we ever win?
No she's not. She's not even close, and she's much more likely to turn it over than she is to get a bucket. In the last 5 games she's scored 11 total points on 4-13 shooting with 9 turnovers. Are you guys actually watching games?
That needs to change. You cannot hit someone on the arm or bear hug someone and that NOT be a foul. It’s insane.
Exactly, and jonesy is just stirring the pot unnecessarily, does anyone remember Taylor last year? She was Addie, deer in the headlights, trying to out quick quicker players. And lastly, why do we put down our own players(and coaches) when we were picked 6 in league and are in the title game? I guess many posters think very highly of themselves!
I think Addie has a lot of talent and has shown that at times. I think she needs to greatly improve moving with the ball and if she can really do that this summer, then she will b a very good player. It seems to me she gets a little traffic around her and loses control. That's just my opinion.
I'm not stirring shat. I've never stated or even suggested that Addie was anything other than a struggling freshman who will hopefully make great strides next year. People expected way too much from her this year before she was ready and still can't see that today. On the flipside people are still downplaying Strem's abilities while she continues to perform at a very high level. It's weird is what it is.
Not that anyone should care, but I'm officially done criticizing JJ.
She may coach some things during a game that I don't agree with, but you can't argue with the results.
Apologize to everyone for coming off as a bit of an azz.
She may coach some things during a game that I don't agree with, but you can't argue with the results.
Apologize to everyone for coming off as a bit of an azz.
Not that anyone should care, but I'm officially done criticizing JJ.
She may coach some things during a game that I don't agree with, but you can't argue with the results.
Apologize to everyone for coming off as a bit of an azz.
I can't argue with any of this. She could be great next year. That's what we all hope anyway.
Please inform us who here is degrading Stremlow, she’s been a dog and has rescued Iowa after McCabe got hurt. You on the other hand have had Deal in your doghouse since USC, why doesn’t she get the benefit of the doubt, and time to learn and improve?
They have no bigs as talented as either Hannah or Ava. Show me a PG on their team better than Chit. Two games, they scored 42 and 44. Each game had different styles but in the end, similar results. Yeah, they aren't as talented.
Jumping I’m super late. My observations was that this game was officiated absolutely terribly. There were no fouls, and thus no scoring. At one point in the game I decided that whomever wins is just lucky. And whomever loses is going to have a lot to say about the officials. It was called bad both ways. I was really mad when our gals got called for a foul (even if it was a foul) because I saw it uncalled dozens of times on mich in the minutes before. I gotta think mich fans feel the same way.
FWIW both the media and coaches put Olson and Swords on first team and put Chit Chat on 3rd/HM.