When does our Blue Blood status come into question?

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Program fell off the deep end years ago. Nothing positive going on. Terrible leadership. Fan apathy. Yea we have history on our side for the moment.

seeing the fans arent going to do anything about it like simply line up by the thousands to force change…. When do we accept we aren’t a blue blood?

we don’t belong in the same category as Duke UNC Kansas UConn at the moment.

even if we have a similar record this year. Even if we beat Duke last year. Even if Peterson is sitting for Kansas. The bigger picture is scary. Those programs clearly aren’t in bad shape like us.

We used to be the best. We currently aren’t a blue blood. Bama football wouldn’t put up with this. Hell about 7-8 other schools wouldn’t put up with this. And we are the greatest tradition in college basketball??

well to any of the teams from the past that brought winning and good memories I have to say thanks. Fans that cared enough to force change thanks. Tradition and history is all we have to hang our hat on.

There’s no talks of what are we going to do. Just Pope is going to be here next year Because well that’s the new Kentucky way. We let Mitch tell us when he’s leaving. We sit back and take it.

so the purpose of the thread is….. where tf do we meet up and stop this crap? I need a time and location and I’ll see yall there.
 
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OP your question is one I’ve thought very deeply about. It’s actually why I hate the “bump this thread when Indiana sucks”. I’ll give the TLDR on this:

I don’t believe you lose blueblood status. Those who argue you can should consider that, if you can lose it, we may have lost it already to some degree.
 

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We stopped being a blueblood the moment Pope was hired despite the anger online from fans and were ignored. The fans no longer care. We’re a group of toothless yokels fearful of what other programs’ fans think about us more than we than we think about the health of our program. Tennessee and Texas A&M football fans didn’t let their AD run over them while we begged for more punishment from big daddy Mitch and pathetically jumped aboard the nostalgia train when they introduced Pope at Rupp Arena to thousands of adoring sycophants.

We aren’t the greatest fanbase in college basketball. We’re a bunch of chumps who let our once proud program die without a single lifting a single finger to fight back.
 

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OP your question is one I’ve thought very deeply about. It’s actually why I hate the “bump this thread when Indiana sucks”. I’ll give the TLDR on this:

I don’t believe you lose blueblood status. Those who argue you can should consider that, if you can lose it, we may have lost it already to some degree.
You never lose your historic status. But we're teetering on losing it's current status.
 

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OP your question is one I’ve thought very deeply about. It’s actually why I hate the “bump this thread when Indiana sucks”. I’ll give the TLDR on this:

I don’t believe you lose blueblood status. Those who argue you can should consider that, if you can lose it, we may have lost it already to some degree.
In your kindness thread I said “question op”… I was going to ask if you minded if I started a hate post to counter your kindness thread. Not as a troll but being serious. If someone wanted to get off some hateful rubbish they could click on the hate thread….

I bring that up because maybe you can start a bump when UK sucks thread. Let’s start focusing on UK. I agree with you. The longer that thread goes on the goofier we look. Indiana is beating us out for recruits these days. Idc what anybody says. This team needs a Wilkerson or anybody else we missed on. That’s why we are getting these results. Bump when Kentucky sucks.
 

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In your kindness thread I said “question op”… I was going to ask if you minded if I started a hate post to counter your kindness thread. Not as a troll but being serious. If someone wanted to get off some hateful rubbish they could click on the hate thread….

I bring that up because maybe you can start a bump when UK sucks thread. Let’s start focusing on UK. I agree with you. The longer that thread goes on the goofier we look. Indiana is beating us out for recruits these days. Idc what anybody says. This team needs a Wilkerson or anybody else we missed on. That’s why we are getting these results. Bump when Kentucky sucks.
What are you talking about? Wait…never mind.
 
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In your kindness thread I said “question op”… I was going to ask if you minded if I started a hate post to counter your kindness thread. Not as a troll but being serious. If someone wanted to get off some hateful rubbish they could click on the hate thread….

I bring that up because maybe you can start a bump when UK sucks thread. Let’s start focusing on UK. I agree with you. The longer that thread goes on the goofier we look. Indiana is beating us out for recruits these days. Idc what anybody says. This team needs a Wilkerson or anybody else we missed on. That’s why we are getting these results. Bump when Kentucky sucks.
I’m not a moderator, just a fellow fan like you. I’ve never minded the idea of others posting their frustration however they see fit. I don’t even see my “request for kindness” thread as a hard and fast rule, coz some people come here specifically for the chaos. I just try to speak my truth as I see it and so my post was an extension of my own desire to see more on-topic debates and non-personal interactions. So, a request for more hate thread probably isn’t my cup of tea, but I’d support you posting whatever you think as long as it stays within whatever rules this site has lol. FWIW, regardless of which accounts I’ve seen with you, I’ve always enjoyed your posts. Even when you disagree with me, you’ve always kept things pretty comical and while we see things differently I admire that.

Ultimately, I’ll continue to believe bluebloods are those whose history gives them royal status. Can’t take that away. Maybe that’s cope — idk, but it’s what I feel:
 

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I’m not a moderator, just a fellow fan like you. I’ve never minded the idea of others posting their frustration however they see fit. I don’t even see my “request for kindness” thread as a hard and fast rule, coz some people come here specifically for the chaos. I just try to speak my truth as I see it and so my post was an extension of my own desire to see more on-topic debates and non-personal interactions. So, a request for more hate thread probably isn’t my cup of tea, but I’d support you posting whatever you think as long as it stays within whatever rules this site has lol. FWIW, regardless of which accounts I’ve seen with you, I’ve always enjoyed your posts. Even when you disagree with me, you’ve always kept things pretty comical and while we see things differently I admire that.

Ultimately, I’ll continue to believe bluebloods are those whose history gives them royal status. Can’t take that away. Maybe that’s cope — idk, but it’s what I feel:
I wouldn’t want to see it a bunch of hate and stuff it was more of a containment so it could s
I’m not a moderator, just a fellow fan like you. I’ve never minded the idea of others posting their frustration however they see fit. I don’t even see my “request for kindness” thread as a hard and fast rule, coz some people come here specifically for the chaos. I just try to speak my truth as I see it and so my post was an extension of my own desire to see more on-topic debates and non-personal interactions. So, a request for more hate thread probably isn’t my cup of tea, but I’d support you posting whatever you think as long as it stays within whatever rules this site has lol. FWIW, regardless of which accounts I’ve seen with you, I’ve always enjoyed your posts. Even when you disagree with me, you’ve always kept things pretty comical and while we see things differently I admire that.

Ultimately, I’ll continue to believe bluebloods are those whose history gives them royal status. Can’t take that away. Maybe that’s cope — idk, but it’s what I feel:
Yea we have blue blood history. How long before we keep sucking does that become our history. I feel like true blue bloods don’t have this many bad years.
 
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Program fell off the deep end years ago. Nothing positive going on. Terrible leadership. Fan apathy. Yea we have history on our side for the moment.

seeing the fans arent going to do anything about it like simply line up by the thousands to force change…. When do we accept we aren’t a blue blood?

we don’t belong in the same category as Duke UNC Kansas UConn at the moment.

even if we have a similar record this year. Even if we beat Duke last year. Even if Peterson is sitting for Kansas. The bigger picture is scary. Those programs clearly aren’t in bad shape like us.

We used to be the best. We currently aren’t a blue blood. Bama football wouldn’t put up with this. Hell about 7-8 other schools wouldn’t put up with this. And we are the greatest tradition in college basketball??

well to any of the teams from the past that brought winning and good memories I have to say thanks. Fans that cared enough to force change thanks. Tradition and history is all we have to hang our hat on.

There’s no talks of what are we going to do. Just Pope is going to be here next year Because well that’s the new Kentucky way. We let Mitch tell us when he’s leaving. We sit back and take it.

so the purpose of the thread is….. where tf do we meet up and stop this crap? I need a time and location and I’ll see yall there.
The tradition and history of Kentucky Basketball means more to us as fans than anyone else out there. We are becoming irrelevant in a lot of people's eyes. We are not there just yet, but close. We still are on ESPN and other networks during primetime because of our ratings. Mitch Barnhart has done more damage to the program than people realize. He was always football first. I am so glad he is leaving the AD job. Hope we get someone that doesn't have ties to him. That contract with JMI is a killer. You could not convince me that Mitch and maybe Capilouto didn't get something out of this under the table. Board of Trustees should be ashamed.
 

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At least until we are no longer #1 in all time wins.
Still lead Kansas by 5 biguns.
 

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you dont lose blue blood status for 4 out of 6 years of stink. 10 more years of this and it can be questioned. 15 more years of this and you should lose blue blood status and be like UCLA and Indiana in the has beens

(we had a contender before covid ended the season and Oscars first year we were a really good team in the regular season)
 
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I wouldn’t want to see it a bunch of hate and stuff it was more of a containment so it could s

Yea we have blue blood history. How long before we keep sucking does that become our history. I don’t feel like true blue bloods don’t have this many bad years.
Just comes down to definitions. Indiana has 5 titles and had them in multiple decades, dating all the way back to the earliest days of the NCAAT. They had a lot of down years, but they are in the top 10-15 in most measured categories as a program. I’d consider them a blueblood even now, just like I would UCLA. I’d also say UConn is one now, because they’ve built a prestige that can’t be diminished by down years. Six titles is six titles, no matter when they happened. It’s the same way I feel about Kentucky — 8 titles, most all-time wins, top 3 in NCAAT victories, best all-time win percentage — I can go on for days. We still are the all-time program across all eras. We just need to act like it again now.
 

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The tradition and history of Kentucky Basketball means more to us as fans than anyone else out there. We are becoming irrelevant in a lot of people's eyes. We are not there just yet, but close. We still are on ESPN and other networks during primetime because of our ratings. Mitch Barnhart has done more damage to the program than people realize. He was always football first. I am so glad he is leaving the AD job. Hope we get someone that doesn't have ties to him. That contract with JMI is a killer. You could not convince me that Mitch and maybe Capilouto didn't get something out of this under the table. Board of Trustees should be ashamed.
As far as ESPN.. I’ve even noticed when I check the scoreboards for all games.. I usually have to click see ours because they don’t even have the UK game scores on the main page anymore. They usually have about 5 or 6 games.. you see all the scores for games they feel are important. Gotta click a button to see UK these days. Maybe that’s just on my device tho I’m not sure.
 

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As far as ESPN.. I’ve even noticed when I check the scoreboards for all games.. I usually have to click see all because they don’t even have the UK game scores on the main page anymore. They usually have about 5 or 6 games.. you see all the scores for games they feel are important. Gotta click a button to see UK these days. Mane that’s just on my device tho I’m not sure.
It's because UK hasn't been ranked since lord knows when. Usually the ranked games populate the default page.
 
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you dont lose blue blood status for 4 out of 6 years of stink. 10 more years of this and it can be questioned. 15 more years of this and you should lose blue blood status and be like UCLA and Indiana in the has beens

(we had a contender before covid ended the season and Oscars first year we were a really good team in the regular season)
Yea man we had some good teams. None of them had any post season success. I do believe Covid interrupted everything.. like it was put in place for…. Like a reset. UK never reset tho. Still stuck pre 2020.
 

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Kentucky, Kansas and UNC are BLUE BLOODS. They have been winning and racking up all-time records for d-e-c-a-d-e-s. The Floridas and UCONNs are great today - making them NEW bloods. Florida had a losing record in the SEC tournament all-time until last year for gosh sakes and did not win a title until the NCAA tournament had been played for 67 years. There is no definition anywhere that would call Florida a Blue Blood except for media types that do not understand the origins of the term blue blood and there are plenty of them. UCONN, like Florida did not win their first NCAA title until the 60th year of the tournament. Neither average 16 wins per year in their history. They are NEW bloods, not Blue bloods.

Historically all of that is accurate.

For kids today, they probably do not care. We must find a coach that can convince kids to play for UK as a platform that still draws ratings, plays in front of the largest traveling fan base in the country, etc., before we do fall in a group that I call TRUE Bloods. dUKe (I know I'll get arguments on this), UCLA, & IU.

GO BIG BLUE!
 
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OP your question is one I’ve thought very deeply about. It’s actually why I hate the “bump this thread when Indiana sucks”. I’ll give the TLDR on this:

I don’t believe you lose blueblood status. Those who argue you can should consider that, if you can lose it, we may have lost it already to some degree.

I think blue bloods can go dormant and we are dormant now. Still a “name” but nowhere near the top of the sport.

This entire decade is shaping up like our last dormant decade - the 2000s. The 2020s have been a poor man’s version of 2000s.

This decade doesn’t have a 2003 team, but it’s got plenty 2000, 2002, 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009 type teams that are anywhere from almost good to awful.
 

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We’re not functionally blue blood now.

But in terms of starting outside blue blood and getting in would you rather be us or 31–0 Miami of Ohio?
No they are in a small conference. I get it. Stupid thread. Just being dramatic. Just worried that we are getting down by 20 in Rupp on senior night.
 
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The tradition and history of Kentucky Basketball means more to us as fans than anyone else out there. We are becoming irrelevant in a lot of people's eyes. We are not there just yet, but close. We still are on ESPN and other networks during primetime because of our ratings. Mitch Barnhart has done more damage to the program than people realize. He was always football first. I am so glad he is leaving the AD job. Hope we get someone that doesn't have ties to him. That contract with JMI is a killer. You could not convince me that Mitch and maybe Capilouto didn't get something out of this under the table. Board of Trustees should be ashamed.
There's nothing wrong with having a "football first" AD. It's just when they neglect the other profitable sport and hand out stupid contracts and extensions.
 
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There's nothing wrong with having a "football first" AD. It's just when they neglect the other profitable sport and hand out stupid contracts and extensions.
Disagree. Having a “football first” AD is great if you are a “football first” school. We aren’t and most people don’t want that. We want to be dominant again in basketball. For me, if you told me went 2-10 for the next four years and won a basketball championship, I’d sign up for it without hesitation. And don’t hit me with the football makes the money thing, coz we won all kinds of titles and final fours in the 90s with a stinky football team and it still made us plenty of money.
 

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Disagree. Having a “football first” AD is great if you are a “football first” school. We aren’t and most people don’t want that. We want to be dominant again in basketball. For me, if you told me went 2-10 for the next four years and won a basketball championship, I’d sign up for it without hesitation. And don’t hit me with the football makes the money thing, coz we won all kinds of titles and final fours in the 90s with a stinky football team and it still made us plenty of money.
I respectively disagree with you. We need to commit to football, and an athletic director who values football and what it brings to us. We had a crappy team in the 1990s, but Imagine what a winning football program can do in terms of local economics

we need a competent AD who is forward thinking and not conceding the football arms race to the conference.

I believe the right AD can manage both sports and their respective GMs (yes we need a bb GM). It's likely our next AD who will fire Pope, and I trust he will be competent with the next hire knowing how important basketball is here.

That's my opinion, and I stand behind it.
 
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I respectively disagree with you. We need to commit to football, and an athletic director who values football and what it brings to us. We had a crappy team in the 1990s, but Imagine what a winning football program can do in terms of local economics

we need a competent AD who is forward thinking and not conceding the football arms race to the conference.

I believe the right AD can manage both sports and their respective GMs (yes we need a bb GM). It's likely our next AD who will fire Pope, and I trust he will be competent with the next hire knowing how important basketball is here.

That's my opinion, and I stand behind it.
I respect your position. I hear that and hear “try to be good at everything” and I expect that will result in being mid at everything. Your approach is not too different from Barnhart in that regard. He caught crap from the football folks, but really was one of the most pro-football ADs we’ve had dating back 70 years or so. We also happen to be in one of our worst periods in basketball history. I appreciate where you’re coming from but utopias almost always end dystopian. Such is the “let’s be good at everything.”
 

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I respect your position. I hear that and hear “try to be good at everything” and I expect that will result in being mid at everything. Your approach is not too different from Barnhart in that regard. He caught crap from the football folks, but really was one of the most pro-football ADs we’ve had dating back 70 years or so. We also happen to be in one of our worst periods in basketball history. I appreciate where you’re coming from but utopias almost always end dystopian. Such is the “let’s be good at everything.”
Well the contract stuff and the swim stuff is where ole Mitch and I part ways. I can safely guarantee you that ;)

Thanks for the kind response. You're living you "Kindness" thread.
 
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Well the contract stuff and the swim stuff is where ole Mitch and I part ways. I can safely guarantee you that ;)

Thanks for the kind response. You're living you "Kindness" thread.
I certainly try to. Always find debate can be very enjoyable, as long as people remember we are all real people. Too many things become personal when it should be about the product. But thanks! 🙏
 
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Florida is more of a blue blood at this point. They have had a lot more recent success over the last 20-25 years.

UK will always have history but it is exactly that “history”. College athletics is much different now.
 

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We are the blue blood we have always been. 2 seasons with a clown coach does not change that.

It didn’t with BCG and it doesn’t now.

Even next year with a losing season if Pope returns will not change that.

2 out of 3 of Cal’s last “terrible” seasons were a 2 seed and a 3 seed. UK was a destination for the best players in the world. Players even lied about being recruited by UK in order to raise their profile

If Pope were allowed to stay here 5-10 years then yeah, we might start losing it.

But that’s not happening. Even if allowed to return next season he won’t survive the whole season.

Then we will quickly return to the top of the college basketball world. UK is UK!!

UK has won titles with 5 different coaches.

UK makes coaches since Rupp. Not the other way around. Sometimes we get it wrong. Then quickly fix it.

Pope cannot destroy what Rupp built.
 

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No they are in a small conference. I get it. Stupid thread. Just being dramatic. Just worried that we are getting down by 20 in Rupp on senior night.
I don’t think it’s a stupid thread. I’m just trying to latch onto the affirmative.
 
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Disagree. Having a “football first” AD is great if you are a “football first” school. We aren’t and most people don’t want that. We want to be dominant again in basketball. For me, if you told me went 2-10 for the next four years and won a basketball championship, I’d sign up for it without hesitation. And don’t hit me with the football makes the money thing, coz we won all kinds of titles and final fours in the 90s with a stinky football team and it still made us plenty of money.
For some reason calling them a stinky team is such a goofy hardcore burn to me.
Georgetown? They were never any where close to being a Blueblood program.
im not calling them a blue blood myself but ive always thought Georgetown had a good rep. Swag. Respected history. I don’t know their history just saying that off of what I’ve thought my whole life
 

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For some reason calling them a stinky team is such a goofy hardcore burn to me.

im not calling them a blue blood myself but ive always thought Georgetown had a good rep. Swag. Respected history. I don’t know their history just saying that off of what I’ve thought my whole life
Their history is pretty much crap outside of John Thompson's run which was still short of Blueblood level. They have an historical winning percentage of 59.6% against mostly weak schedules. 5 Final 4's and one title is far from elite.

Here is their history if you are interested.

 
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Their history is pretty much crap outside of John Thompson's run which was still short of Blueblood level.
Just perception for me. I literally don’t know anything about Georgetown. I just was under the impression they were a basketball school when I younger. Always attached them to alllen iverson.