Should Coach do the doublecross and have the team shoot early in the shot clock?

uihawk82

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Teams play the hard when Iowa has the ball but really hard that last 10 seconds of the shot clock because they know we are waiting to shoot then.

That is when you see teams doubling the ball at the arc and really clamping down.

Would shooting earlier when availbable be an advantage with a few games to go?
 
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Unclesammy

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Teams play the hard when Iowa has the ball but really hard that last 10 seconds of the shot clock because they know we are waiting to shoot then.

That is when you see teams doubling the ball at the arc and really clamping down.

Would shooting earlier when availbable be an advantage with a few games to go?
If shooting earlier produces a better shot which produces a higher shooting percentage, I'm for that. Unfortunately, some of our guys routinely miss wide open shots.
 

Hawklove

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My two cents: 1. I have never heard a coach say don’t take an open shot. I think these extra passes and passing up on good shots is an awful strategy. 2. We also had the opportunity for a couple of fast breaks last night only for our ball handler to come to a full stop and allow the defense to catch up and set up.
I’m not a coach, but from a fan’s perspective that makes it difficult to enjoy this offense.
 

HAWKNESS

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It's going to get better we won't always play this slow. Right now reality is we don't have the roster talent. Did anyone think we played slow when we played the early quad 4 opponents? I didn't and we scored 90+ multiple times. When we get better talent you can get in higher possession battles and actually benefits you to do so.

Against Michigan and most the good teams it just doesn't make sense. They can trade basket for basket easier than we can. Right now take the starting 5 on the floor playing Michigan. You get a wide open jumper early in clock outside paint or to 3 point line with Kael, Banks, Koch, or Cam. Do you want them taking that shot? I'd say Koch taking that is ok the others I probably want to work possession more to get something in paint or even Stirtz trying to get a contested bucket. When we get more scorers that will change imo. Against most the teams we're going to face rest of season with current roster we kinda have to play this way.
 

Hawktech

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If shooting earlier produces a better shot which produces a higher shooting percentage, I'm for that. Unfortunately, some of our guys routinely miss wide open shots.
24% from 3pt land won't win you many games... Had just two more gone in, that is a win.... Or a few more foul calls. :cautious:
 
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DukeSlater

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Teams play the hard when Iowa has the ball but really hard that last 10 seconds of the shot clock because they know we are waiting to shoot then.

That is when you see teams doubling the ball at the arc and really clamping down.

Would shooting earlier when availbable be an advantage with a few games to go?
You make a good point, IMHO. Iowa several times a game has WIDE open shots from three or in the lane, but it's early in the shot clock, and they are almost NEVER even considering shooting. They pass out of the wide open shot at least 90% of the time. Then, quite often, Iowa ends up with a horrible shot late in the clock. That's too predictable, as you say. So sometimes, when you really have a good shot early, TAKE it. Surprise the defense. I'm surprised Ben doesn't seem to see things that way. But I definitely wish he'd give guys more of green light to shoot great shots no matter where they are in the shot clock.
 

DukeSlater

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24% from 3pt land won't win you many games... Had just two more gone in, that is a win.... Or a few more foul calls. :cautious:

24% from 3pt land won't win you many games... Had just two more gone in, that is a win.... Or a few more foul calls. :cautious:
Iowa hits just ONE more shot, and Michigan misses just one more shot, and that's a four-, five-, or six-point swing. Iowa wins in each of those situations. And if one or two calls were made correctly, Iowa wins. Man, that's what makes that great effort last night so damn infuriating. So, so, so close . . .
 

ComradeKirk

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It's going to get better we won't always play this slow. Right now reality is we don't have the roster talent. Did anyone think we played slow when we played the early quad 4 opponents? I didn't and we scored 90+ multiple times. When we get better talent you can get in higher possession battles and actually benefits you to do so.

Against Michigan and most the good teams it just doesn't make sense. They can trade basket for basket easier than we can. Right now take the starting 5 on the floor playing Michigan. You get a wide open jumper early in clock outside paint or to 3 point line with Kael, Banks, Koch, or Cam. Do you want them taking that shot? I'd say Koch taking that is ok the others I probably want to work possession more to get something in paint or even Stirtz trying to get a contested bucket. When we get more scorers that will change imo. Against most the teams we're going to face rest of season with current roster we kinda have to play this way.
Agreed. Plus, to a point this is the way basketball is going. It's just that our 3 and D guys are really D and sometimes 3 guys. I'd love to push it more, but I understand why we aren't taking a ton of risks with turnovers considering our talent deficit. Keep it close against better teams and hope you get some bounces. It's the KF strat but on hardwood.
 

HAWKNESS

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Agreed. Plus, to a point this is the way basketball is going. It's just that our 3 and D guys are really D and sometimes 3 guys. I'd love to push it more, but I understand why we aren't taking a ton of risks with turnovers considering our talent deficit. Keep it close against better teams and hope you get some bounces. It's the KF strat but on hardwood.
Yes and play defense
 
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Rambler Hawk

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My two cents: 1. I have never heard a coach say don’t take an open shot. I think these extra passes and passing up on good shots is an awful strategy. 2. We also had the opportunity for a couple of fast breaks last night only for our ball handler to come to a full stop and allow the defense to catch up and set up.
I’m not a coach, but from a fan’s perspective that makes it difficult to enjoy this offense.
I don’t understand why we can’t just adjust our strategy based on the competition….we should have just went full throttle at Maryland and PSU….no need to play stall ball with those clown teams…🤡
 
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Smigamorski

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My two cents: 1. I have never heard a coach say don’t take an open shot. I think these extra passes and passing up on good shots is an awful strategy. 2. We also had the opportunity for a couple of fast breaks last night only for our ball handler to come to a full stop and allow the defense to catch up and set up.
I’m not a coach, but from a fan’s perspective that makes it difficult to enjoy this offense.
Iowa is really bad on the fastbreak, it feels like they rarely convert those opportunities. Howard missed an easy dunk on one for crying out loud.
 
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hawkeyemark18

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Iowa is really bad on the fastbreak, it feels like they rarely convert those opportunities. Howard missed an easy dunk on one for crying out loud.
I get the vibe Beb wants to fast break more on steals and obvious opportunities. He doesn't quite have the athletes to do that at this point. So things do look akward at times. The key obviously lies in recruiting at this point. And then balance between making the defense work to taking advantage of obvious scoring opportunities.
 

Hawktech

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Iowa hits just ONE more shot, and Michigan misses just one more shot, and that's a four-, five-, or six-point swing. Iowa wins in each of those situations. And if one or two calls were made correctly, Iowa wins. Man, that's what makes that great effort last night so damn infuriating. So, so, so close . . .
Same with Nebbie!?! That was some serious homecookin'?!? The game shouldn't have went to OT. Not even close.

If I am Iowa, there is a call put into the B1G officials....

That noted, it makes me hopeful for the NCAA tournament. No BS homecourt foul calls, or non-fouls in this case.
 

Hawktech

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Agreed. Plus, to a point this is the way basketball is going. It's just that our 3 and D guys are really D and sometimes 3 guys. I'd love to push it more, but I understand why we aren't taking a ton of risks with turnovers considering our talent deficit. Keep it close against better teams and hope you get some bounces. It's the KF strat but on hardwood.

I think BMC should take the open shot earlier in the clock every 4-5 times down court. I like our chances then, rather than aggressive D the last ten seconds.... Plus it keeps the other team moving more on defense, vs playing soft until the last ten seconds.

As for the talent, we will be one more year experienced. It will make a difference for just about everybody on the team. Plus we add Ethan & Trey. And a portal guard.
 

Hawksfor3

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You make a good point, IMHO. Iowa several times a game has WIDE open shots from three or in the lane, but it's early in the shot clock, and they are almost NEVER even considering shooting. They pass out of the wide open shot at least 90% of the time. Then, quite often, Iowa ends up with a horrible shot late in the clock. That's too predictable, as you say. So sometimes, when you really have a good shot early, TAKE it. Surprise the defense. I'm surprised Ben doesn't seem to see things that way. But I definitely wish he'd give guys more of green light to shoot great shots no matter where they are in the shot clock.
If the guys have a good quality open look early in the clock, then they should take it. Ben wants to control tempo by limiting possessions and defending. On offense, getting a score on an "Action" is what he wants, and if that fails, get to the next "Action". If they don't get that, the offense stalls and ends up with a late shot clock force. If it's there early on, then by all means take it. Also, better off ball movement helps get you to the next "Action" IMHO.