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Over the next few weeks, keep your eyes on the Middle East
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There are tens of thousands of Mullahs in Iran. It's like being the senior global pastor of a non-denominational church here in the US.
I guess I need a list of sources that the war mongers will accept as legitimateSo the Politico is your source.
There aren't enough targets to last us until September.
According to Rudaw, a Kurdish/Kurdistani news source (so usual caveats), US special forces shot up some Iraqi soldiers in Iraq for ???? reasons. Classic JSOC experience https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/05032026
According to WaPo and their sources, the whole "Iranians will rise up and overthrow the regime!" plan isn't working so far https://bsky.app/profile/shipwreck75.bsky.social/post/3mgdnqlwrs22s
The Basra Police Command (so usual caveats) told Al-Jazeera that they are helping search for a down US pilot, which CENTCOM is obviously saying is incorrect
According to WaPo and their sources, the whole "Iranians will rise up and overthrow the regime!" plan isn't working so far https://bsky.app/profile/shipwreck75.bsky.social/post/3mgdnqlwrs22s
The Basra Police Command (so usual caveats) told Al-Jazeera that they are helping search for a down US pilot, which CENTCOM is obviously saying is incorrect
I replied earlier….
Dahieh has been evacuated and will get hammered tonight. In multiple waves. If munitions were an issue they wouldn’t be doing that in Lebanon right now. East Tehran got hammered today. Multiple waves. The US now has B-52s making runs. None of that supports the assertion. Hegseth has said we’re fine repeatedly. The pace will slow simply because the pace thus far has been incredible and the initial waves of broad target packages have been or are being destroyed. The focus will get narrower. Things will slow because the limiting factor is becoming less numerous - not because munitions are becoming an issue.
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I haven’t noticed any differences in life where I live. I am not against anyone that enjoys politics, but I have zero interest. I don’t even enjoy the people that I would agree with. It all seems like a bunch of people that just want to sit around arguing. I vote, which is the maximum action I can take as a citizen.
I came for the military updates but it looks like mostly political opinions. Someone should start a military updates only thread.
Sorry but contextless alphabet soup updates and then snuff films of buildings being blown up is boring to some of us. You can find that stuff on Xitter and YouTube. I’ve tried to post some updates on military stuff but apparently my sources weren’t good enough
They won’t find them. An F-15 was reportedly downed in western Iran. The crew ejected safely over Iranian territory. They were extracted by an Israeli team from unit 669. Heard some reports says joint us/israeli team. So may have been some Americans in the rescue team, as well. It happened last night.
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I would venture that voting should be the minimum action any citizen should take.
But I understand the your sentiment.
Say what? The single torpedo we shot was supposedly $4M. (Maybe) not a bad trade considering we got in return.
Unfortunately too many people in our country feel this way. It’s a sad state of affairs
Total air superiority should allow us to start dropping the cheap stuff (i.e. JDMAS and regular MK82's)
It can be hard to separate the political from the military. However, some here think questioning the strategic choices is somehow partisan. We should spend less time on debunking misinformation and more getting to the truth. I would submit most are here out of curiosity. They want to understand how things and why things happen tactically, operationally and strategically. Lots of perspectives, experience and knowledge here. Arguments happen in war rooms all the time cause people have different information and different perspectives.
tldr: use the ignore button.
Are we completely destroying Iran’s ability to produce and sell oil?
This used to be a military thread.
I guess it's entirely possible. Mobile batteries can be very hard to locate and defend against.
I’ve found it better to treat these questions with sincerity.
Maybe I can reframe. So you think it will deter people that already funnel money to terrorist agencies to stop? Obviously it will hamper in the short term but will it only deepen their resolve long term?
Honestly, I just think some of us have doubts that a bombing campaign will solve the Iran issue? Will a subsequent vacuum be a long term anchor for the US Military and State Department?
Short term it is very effective, awe shockingly so. But what next?
Is this Desert Storm, Enduring Freedom or Iraqi Freedom? Each had very different outcomes.
Feel free to add any military info you have. No snark.
If we destroy then we cannot use it.
Or to put a more positive spin on it: if we destroy it, Irans ability to rebuild is severely handicapped.
Is that what you are alluding?
The military is inherently political. The president at any given time is the Commander-In-Chief and his appointees lead each branch of the armed services as well as the rest of the DoD. Those elected and subsequently appointed officials guide our military strategy in Iran and elsewhere. The politics of those in charge are inextricably linked to the military decisions they make.
Discussing one is naturally going to lead to discussing the other.
Discussing one is naturally going to lead to discussing the other.
The former Iranian regime will not soon be funding anyone, even if they are not overthrown. Their whole military apparatus has been gutted and their economy will be in shambles. Every spare nickel they have will be needed to rebuild and rearm--to the extent they are permited to.
To be clear, I have my doubts too. But I am hopeful and I am pulling for a swift and positive outcome. Iran is far more western-oriented than the rest of the ME. There's at least a chance it does not go like the others. And I'd like to think we learned a thing or to along the way. Still, I'm certainly not going to shout anyone down over being highly skeptical about it.
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Yes. It's sounds trite, but we really do want Iran to be great. Friendly and great.
War is inherently political (e.g. the Clausewitz quote). One can discuss military ops and be entirely politically agnostic. But it's admittedly hard to talk about what's going on right now without questioning the necessity of it. And that's totally fair too, but it all just becomes a slippery slope and this thread becomes like the crap that goes on on that other board that few like to venture into (and I regret it every time I do).
Or to say it another way, not just selling cheap oil to China anymore?
You do seem open to genuine conversation, which I appreciate it.
Has their whole military apparatus been gutted? Iran is a massive country and a very mountainous country. I don't think an air campaign is capable of wiping out their military capacity on its own, especially when they don't have the equivalent of ball bearing factories for us to hit. To what end are we bombing? How are we measuring the effectiveness of our bombing, not just the efficiency? We've bombed the crap out of Yemen and they still have the ability to effect shipping
One of the talking points is that we're going to do regime change somehow and make Iran friendlier to the US once they have a new regime in place. There are a few reasons why I'm skeptical about that
Truth be told I am totally fascinated by the idea of the rise of a new Persian nation.
I will also say some of the prettiest women I have met in Atlanta were expats from Iran. But I was much younger then lol.
I would always include Achaemenid Persia in my western civ 101 courses as an adjunct. This is getting into the historical what-if weeds but a history where Persia conquers Greece in the 5th century may have been better in some respects though that is a can of worms.
Yeah I probably went down that slippery slope too much in this thread at times so I am attempting to not add that type of commentary
Same. I love history, and the thought of the rise of a proud Persian nation no longer under the yoke of religious tyranny is intriguing. And indeed the ladies are quite lovely.