MSU 12th in the country in women's soccer spending

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The usual incoming comments from the usual suspects about wasted spending when football would benefit most from this in just a few moments, you know who you are
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HailStout

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Shut down every sport besides football. Don’t stop there. No more money to academics or housing or electricity or water or lawn care or food for Bully. Shutter the vet school. Kill all the cows in the dairy school and sell the meat for NIL. Same for the chickens. All the money for football. Nothing else matters.
 

tired

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I'm of the mindset, if you can't make it on your own merit....
 

Bulldog45

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We could’ve hosted and entertained an entire 5* offensive line for a weekend with that kind of money*******
 
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golferdog

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MSU I believe has the MINIMUM number of sports required to participate in the SEC, so we can't cancel any sport. The more winning programs we have (esp. football & basketball), the more students we attract. We certainly aren't getting students for our elite academic status.
 

patdog

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MSU I believe has the MINIMUM number of sports required to participate in the SEC, so we can't cancel any sport. The more winning programs we have (esp. football & basketball), the more students we attract. We certainly aren't getting students for our elite academic status.
We can't cancel any sports. We are at the SEC and I think NCAA Div I minimum. So even if we cut soccer to the bare minimum, that might increase our football budget by 1%.
 

mstateglfr

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I'm of the mindset, if you can't make it on your own merit....
I am of the mindset that athletics and activities are a net positive and critical part of a college experience and it is foolish to itemize costs into oblivion.
Same concept as why parks and recreational services should exist despite being in the red on a city's balance sheet.


It is reasonable to analyze which athletics and which activities offer the best use of limited funds.
It is unreasonable to only allow profit generating athletics and activities to exist.
 
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POTUS

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Any time you can be in the top tier of spending on a sport where winning the whole thing gets you almost no news coverage, well buddy you just gotta write the check! It's the Mississippi State way!

ETA: Less than 100K people watched the 2025 championship game. I had to google to find out Florida State was the national champion in women's soccer. I bet we could have gotten Hubbard a little help with a million or so of that money.
 

Seinfeld

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I am of the merit that athletics and activities are a net positive and critical part of a college experience and it is foolish to itemize costs into oblivion.
Same concept as why parks and recreational services should exist despite being in the red on a city's balance sheet.


It is reasonable to analyze which athletics and which activities offer the best use of limited funds.
It is unreasonable to only allow profit generating athletics and activities to exist.
Yep, almost like maybe… just maybe, not all things were put on this earth to generate money
 
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615dawg

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Yep, almost like maybe… just maybe, not all things were put on this earth to generate money
Sounds good in theory. Doesn't work in practice.

Saw where Iowa State dropped gymnastics today. We are at the minimum for D1 - and that includes counting indoor track and outdoor track as separate sports. We can't drop anything, but spending is out of control on college sports, including football. We are treading water, which is good considering LSU is looking at a $40 million hole and a school like Florida State is nearly a half billion in debt for athletics.

South Carolina has gone all in in women's basketball at a level that makes our baseball commitment look like nothing. The result is that since January 1, 2025, their men's football, baseball and basketball teams are 15-73 against Power 4 competition and 9-50 against the SEC. They have sold their soul for women's basketball. Their fans are starting to ask if its worth it. We can't do the same for baseball. Since the new DNF was opened, we are 13-37 in the SEC in football.

But as far as being one of the top 12 spenders in a low level sport, one additional SEC football win is worth more to Mississippi State than a national championship in women's soccer.
 
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L4Dawg

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Shut down every sport besides football. Don’t stop there. No more money to academics or housing or electricity or water or lawn care or food for Bully. Shutter the vet school. Kill all the cows in the dairy school and sell the meat for NIL. Same for the chickens. All the money for football. Nothing else matters.
It's that kind of all or nothing thinking that renders debate useless. We wasted money spending at top 12 level on a sport like that. Come man.
 

patdog

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It's that kind of all or nothing thinking that renders debate useless. We wasted money spending at top 12 level on a sport like that. Come man.
If we can spend an extra $1.5M to have a competitive soccer team rather than improve football from 3.5 wins per year to 3.6 wins per year, I'm ok with that.
 

mstateglfr

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Sounds good in theory. Doesn't work in practice.

Saw where Iowa State dropped gymnastics today.
ISU gymnastics has been a shítshow for a couple years now and the season was canceled for reasons other than funding.
 

HailStout

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We are spending 7th on soccer in the SEC and don’t have gymnastics /swimming / etc to fund. I would say that is not unreasonable.
 
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bulldoghair

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We can't cancel any sports. We are at the SEC and I think NCAA Div I minimum. So even if we cut soccer to the bare minimum, that might increase our football budget by 1%.
That’s not 1%- that’s a meaningful chunk. Actually that’s around 8-9% of football’s total expenses. Then in NIL terms, $3 million could fund 15–30 high impact players at $100k–$200k deals or cover a top transfer QB’s full bag ect.
 

The Peeper

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I'll oblige you. That is wasted money.
I will kind of agree, but for a different reason. All soccer is a waste of time and money to me, however, I'm open minded enough to realize that some people do like it and I don't try and dictate where those people spend their disposable time and money, like some of YOU do.
 

maroonmania

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I'm not sure why we are spending anything on soccer. As soon as any MSU soccer coach has ANY success, they immediately leave for another SEC school. So it appears to be a total waste given our program seems to be nothing more a training ground for other SEC jobs. I had assumed they were leaving because we don't financially support soccer but apparently that is not the case.
 

DawgNsuds

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Shut down every sport besides football. Don’t stop there. No more money to academics or housing or electricity or water or lawn care or food for Bully. Shutter the vet school. Kill all the cows in the dairy school and sell the meat for NIL. Same for the chickens. All the money for football. Nothing else matters.
I realize this is sarcasm, but I believe that we sold our herd sometime ago or at least I believe I read something along those lines