BIG TIME STOKES NEWS !!!!

MonsterMash79

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You’re missing the whole point, man. My post had nothing to do with with how common the Peterson situation is with regards to specifics. It has to do with control. There are coaches of Self’s reputation that can’t control some of these guys, yet some of you want a freshman “stud” so bad you’ll convince yourself Pope can hold Stokes in check, who has a much worse reputation. I’m not buying it and no one rational should.
I’m with ya.. I’m still trying to wrap my head around people wanting a kid that doesn’t want the program.. literally for money lol smh ..
 

storm1507

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I try not to get into recruiting and portal transfers until the season is over. What if we get Chandler, Kam, and Moreno back and Stokes chooses UK. How do you think Kam and Stokes will play together? Kam as a stretch 4?? I don't really know how well Stokes shoots or is he tough enough to play inside, etc. Just wondering how those 4 would mix together.
 
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The Ganner

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It’s a double edge sword though. If he gets Stokes and falters again next year he will have signed his fate.
If he gets a number 1 recruit and puts him in with returning pieces like Chandler, Moreno, Williams and still falters then we need to learn this quickly that he's just not the guy. No "well if he can get better talent..." This is a win win. Either we see "oh, elite talent allowed Pope to elevate to championship challenger level" or weeding see he'll never do it.
 

The Ganner

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I try not to get into recruiting and portal transfers until the season is over. What if we get Chandler, Kam, and Moreno back and Stokes chooses UK. How do you think Kam and Stokes will play together? Kam as a stretch 4?? I don't really know how well Stokes shoots or is he tough enough to play inside, etc. Just wondering how those 4 would mix together.
If you can get him you figure out how exactly the pieces fit. 2 shooters flanking an elite scorer, a sophomore big who could be REALLY good, and a portal pg and we're cooking with gas.
 
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The_Catfather

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I try not to get into recruiting and portal transfers until the season is over. What if we get Chandler, Kam, and Moreno back and Stokes chooses UK. How do you think Kam and Stokes will play together? Kam as a stretch 4?? I don't really know how well Stokes shoots or is he tough enough to play inside, etc. Just wondering how those 4 would mix together.
I've seen him listed as a PF a lot of places but I think he's a wing in college. Most comps I've seen are of Scottie Barnes. If you spend that much money on him, you need to structure the offense around him too. I'd prefer to get a stretch 4 that can play on the perimeter and free up the paint. I'd be OK with bringing Dioubate back at the right price but I'd like to get away from having two paint-cloggers like him and Moreno logging big minutes at the same time. I suspect if Mo comes back Pope will feel obligated to start him though.
 

FilsonCat

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If you can get Stokes locked up, you do it and make the rest of the roster work from there. He's going to get his minutes. And we will have about as many as he can handle available next season.
 
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Old Blue Fart

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What’s the difference between Stokes coming for money and Mashburn or Wall coming for a coach?
A player playing for a coach he likes and trusts to get him to his dreams will play thru pain; a kid playing for money with pain might sit longer wanting not to risk his future.
I would want a kid with heart over a kid with his hand out
 

Damage_inc

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Buddy none of these kids have wanted the program in 20 years. None of them care about any program. They all want NIL and the NBA. Before NIL they just wanted the NBA and a secret bag of cash

If stokes can help you win then you pay him and get on with it.
 
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Padsfs07

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A player playing for a coach he likes and trusts to get him to his dreams will play thru pain; a kid playing for money with pain might sit longer wanting not to risk his future.
I would want a kid with heart over a kid with his hand out.


I doubt that happened in the past as much as you like to believe, especially with all the injuries we saw under Calipari. And in 2026, everyone is paid to play now so that isn't relevant.

I can understand a player like Stokes choosing to play for a Bill Self or John Calipari more than Mark Pope until Pope has proven himself as being able to get a guy to the NBA (All other things being equal).

So UK has to pay more to get him here. That's the deal with hiring Pope, for instance, for $5M a year instead of Hurley at $10M a year.
 

SamePooter

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If you simply pay a guy more than anyone else to come play for you, does that really prove that you can recruit?
No but that’s one way to prove you really got the money instead of saying you got 22 million and looking like a dork after
 

peterpiper09

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If he comes for another visit, offer him whatever you want to offer him and tell him it is good until he leaves the visit.
 
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Supafuzz75

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Starting to think Stokes would be a headache. He seems like a drama queen. If i‘m Kentucky, I tell him to just make a decision, so we can move on one way or the other.

I would not just over pay to get him. That‘s just a desperation move that will backfire on you.

If he signs with Kentucky, all we’ll hear about is how Kentucky had to over pay to land him.
Already getting that claim we're overpaying with this years roster.. So who cares if we hear it again..
 
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Cats192

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Starting to think Stokes would be a headache. He seems like a drama queen. If i‘m Kentucky, I tell him to just make a decision, so we can move on one way or the other.

I would not just over pay to get him. That‘s just a desperation move that will backfire on you.

If he signs with Kentucky, all we’ll hear about is how Kentucky had to over pay to land him.
I don't think it's a desperation move.

BYU did it to get Dybantsa, and that paid dividends. They lost Richie and that's going to ruin their season. But when they have a top 3 pick, or even the #1 overall pick, BYU and Young will get a big recruiting boost from that.

I think Pope has to have that same win. And I think it's going to cost money.

We wasted a lot of money this year on depth. Depth that often doesn't help us in games. Brandon Garrison, Jasper, Hawthorne. Noah does a good job of sticking his nose in there and getting rebounds. Dude has really struggled to shoot and probably isn't playing if Kam wasn't injured.

I'd rather give up a few depth pieces and shift some of that money into an elite alpha level talent.
 

UKCowboys

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I try not to get into recruiting and portal transfers until the season is over. What if we get Chandler, Kam, and Moreno back and Stokes chooses UK. How do you think Kam and Stokes will play together? Kam as a stretch 4?? I don't really know how well Stokes shoots or is he tough enough to play inside, etc. Just wondering how those 4 would mix together.
Need a PG and PF, but thats a top 10 team next year. Kam would be 6th man, starter minutes
 

Drcatfan

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I hope we get Stokes period. No excuses, I’ll take my chances with the best talent. That being said o sure hope he has more of a Dybantsa attitude than Peterson attitude. BBN would be going crazy this season if Peterson played for UK
 

yoshukai

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What if holt came to play with stokes ????
People that are supposed to know have said all along that Holt will not go to the same school as Stokes . Now , Holt and Collins together was doable. But the ship has sailed on both of those guys.
 

Artlaibesghost

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If you simply pay a guy more than anyone else to come play for you, does that really prove that you can recruit?
That's the most rediculous post I've read on here in a long time. Given what " recruiting " is in this day in age what does that statement even mean
 

JASUN74

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I try not to get into recruiting and portal transfers until the season is over. What if we get Chandler, Kam, and Moreno back and Stokes chooses UK. How do you think Kam and Stokes will play together? Kam as a stretch 4?? I don't really know how well Stokes shoots or is he tough enough to play inside, etc. Just wondering how those 4 would mix together.
Stokes is a basketball player and can fit with any way of playing or any team. The kid trains hard and knows the game so he’s fit right in I believe. I’d sure rather it be us than Kansas.
 

yoshukai

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For those who follow recruiting close....is Stokes considered as good as Boozer/Dybantsa/Peterson?
Every talent evaluator that has been asked says he would not have been in the top 10 of last years class . Thing is , all those guys will be gone next year so it’s kinda relative.
 

JASUN74

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If you simply pay a guy more than anyone else to come play for you, does that really prove that you can recruit?
How could any coach possibly win with fans thinking like this? Kids will go wherever they want no matter money or not. They’re not property my friend.
 

Cats192

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The whole saga with Stokes is embarrassing. It’s all for a goofy PR win —- and ironically, even if Pope gets the guy, 99% of these same people begging for the dog and pony show will non-stop remind everyone how Stokes’ first option is Kansas? Who does this appease again? Big mistake, playing with fire.
I couldn't disagree more.

I'll tell you Mark Pope can't recruit today. If he gets Stokes, he's proven me wrong. Tip of the cap. I think most of the "Pope can't recruit" crowd see it this way.

In posting this, you kind of imply people are disingenuous (and maybe are looking for a reason to not like Pope). So far, he hasn't proven he can land the big fish. And so, there is some validity to the view point. If he lands the big fish, then he's taken that away. And I'll gladly acknowledge he can indeed recruit.

At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is winning. Getting the best players leads to that. I don't really care about their motives or indecisiveness. If he takes our money and shows up on November 10th, I'll be happy to have him.
 

Cats192

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I’m with ya.. I’m still trying to wrap my head around people wanting a kid that doesn’t want the program.. literally for money lol smh ..
How many kids do you think "want the program" in 2026? They all want money. We're kidding ourselves if we think we're winning national championships by gettings kids that only care about the program.
 
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Cats192

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If you simply pay a guy more than anyone else to come play for you, does that really prove that you can recruit?
Yes.

If the kid is on the basketball team when the season starts, you won. I don't really care about "the reasons" you won.

I think we're losing recruitments because we aren't always willing to pay the most. So, yeah, I'm fine winning a couple because we ARE willing to pay the most.