I say we are 23-6 with victories over Missouri, Georgia, Louisville, and Auburn. Maybe 24-5 if we are completely healthy against UNC.
What is our record if we have no injuries all season and everybody is available from the start of the season?
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I have no idea but I find it funny that many of the same fans on here, when they see another team get an injury to a key player, they’re like, well, there goes their chances. But when we have key injuries, we are still supposed to win every game 
That is so freaking true. Backup bench piece for Michigan goes down and people say.. well there goes Michigan and now Duke is going to win a title. Doesn’t make sense at all to me. Imagine if 3 of Michigans guys were hurt.. what would people be saying then. You also can’t use we spent 22 million because I think Michigan came in second for NILI have no idea but I find it funny that many of the same fans on here, when they see another team get an injury to a key player, they’re like, well, there goes their chances. But when we have key injuries, we are still supposed to win every game
We would be a 3 seed like we were last year.
We would still lose games we should win. And win some we probably shouldn’t.
There would be no defense. No leadership. Players would play hard when they chose to.
There would be no game plans. There would be stupid subbing based on what the charts say to do.
And Pope would win 65% of the games.
There would be no defense. No leadership. Players would play hard when they chose to.
There would be no game plans. There would be stupid subbing based on what the charts say to do.
And Pope would win 65% of the games.
24-5
Losses to Louisville, Michigan State, Gonzaga, Alabama, Florida
And the same posters that are pissy no matter what are still pissing and moaning.
Losses to Louisville, Michigan State, Gonzaga, Alabama, Florida
And the same posters that are pissy no matter what are still pissing and moaning.
Literally no way to know. Record could be better or worse — I lean towards it being better, particularly if we got a healthy JQ and Lowe, but pressure makes diamonds. Who’s to say you get the same emergence of Aberdeen as point guard or the same rise from Chandler and Moreno? Fully healthy, this team would have a far higher ceiling IMO. Basketball isn’t played in a vacuum and that’s why these hypotheticals, while fun, aren’t as simple is plugging in player X for player Y. We have no idea.
Lowe cant shoot and cant defend even fully healthy.
JQ is only a defender and rebounder at fully healthy, he was a 40% FT shooter last year
Kam being out actually hurts but if all 3 were playing, Kam wouldnt be getting enough minutes or shots because Lowe and JQ would be taking them all trying to boost their draft stocks.
You all need to accept Pope's roster construction was an epic WTF were you thinking!?!?!?!?!!?!?!? , so flawed
JQ is only a defender and rebounder at fully healthy, he was a 40% FT shooter last year
Kam being out actually hurts but if all 3 were playing, Kam wouldnt be getting enough minutes or shots because Lowe and JQ would be taking them all trying to boost their draft stocks.
You all need to accept Pope's roster construction was an epic WTF were you thinking!?!?!?!?!!?!?!? , so flawed
It's hard to say. The substitution pattern may very well have been even more whacky and detrimental to winning. CC probably doesn't get to grow as much and showcase his talent, etc.
Perhaps 2-3 more wins against the bottom feeders we lost to.
Perhaps 2-3 more wins against the bottom feeders we lost to.
I want to pay someone just to be a practice player and sit on the bench and be happy to just be here (Reece potter)
gee…how’s that working out for us ?
Except how long are we going to keep using injuries as an excuse? Pope ends up with a player injured and he gets a pass for another year? What happens if it happens next year? That stops being an excuse and becomes a trend. If somehow Pope’s tenure has 3 straight years of injuries, that’s not an excuse to keep him around, it doesn’t help that some of the players he’s recruited has either already had injuries coming in or were prone to have them to begin with. No more excuses.
At some point you have to accept that Pope has some culpability in our injury woes if next year doesn’t buck the trend. Whether it’s recruiting injury-prone players, poor conditioning or something wrong with his medical staff or something.
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Translation: I don’t like Pope and I’m tired of anyone rationalizing or explaining anything outside of his own shortcomings when it comes to his failures.
If you are vigilant about truth, this topic wouldn’t come up.
AmenI have no idea but I find it funny that many of the same fans on here, when they see another team get an injury to a key player, they’re like, well, there goes their chances. But when we have key injuries, we are still supposed to win every game
MAYBE 2-3 better than the current record. This team was garbage even before the injuries. I’d even say there’s a good chance things could have went off the rails even worse if Lowe plays all year. He’s a poor shooting glory hog that would have kept Aberdeen from turning into what he has.
JQ came in injured and we didn’t know if he’d play a minute. So, he doesn’t count.
I think Lowe is decent, but he’s not an elite PG. Williams was starting to turn a corner. Maybe we’d have another win or two.
I think Lowe is decent, but he’s not an elite PG. Williams was starting to turn a corner. Maybe we’d have another win or two.
Before the injuries?lowe was injured in the preseason, jq was injured last year. Kam was the only one injured during season. But this team was garbage before the injuries? All the pope haters all their logical rational thinking....lol
Is Lowe better than Jasper? Is Kam better than Noah? I’ll give you the gamble on JQ but he didn’t to try and get us to the final four with that move. Unfortunately it didn’t work out. But can you imagine going to the bench now and placing Lowe in or Kam in? It would change this teams ceiling greatly.
People forget we weren’t exactly good when we had Lowe and Kam. And JQ shouldn’t even be considered since it was always a risk that there was no guarantee he was going to play.
Ultimately Pope still wins some good games while losing to teams he shouldn’t. For whatever reason that’s who he is as a coach.
Can I ask what bad losses did we have when we had Lowe and Kam? Yes, there were some blowouts but those were to good and quality teams. If they played, we don’t have losses against inferior teams like Georgia and Auburn. We have those 2.. we don’t lose those games and we are sitting at 2nd in the sec.
the issue is, Pope is literally sitting at his career average this season. So there’s that for what it’s worth. JQ cannot be added in to the conversation. He was recruited with a bad leg with no way of knowing if he’d contribute. He didn’t come here scoring 29 ppg and suddenly go out he was flat unplayable of 2 of the games he played, and Pope was talking crazy. Lowe and Kam….
Kam was getting better. How good was he going to be I don’t know. He was not a great player, he wasn’t dependable on defense at any time. Lowe is a shooter, it’s the opposite of what this team really needs. You add those 2 to the lineup and it’s highly possible Pope subs himself to death. Also and this is key, OO and Chandler probably don’t become the players they are today with Lowe and Kam on the court. When they went away, OO and Chandler became different players. This idea that with those 2 playing were sitting great? It’s possibly the opposite. It doesn’t matter anyway, injuries are part of sports and there are hundreds of coaches who have been fired that could have used that excuse and you never even knew it
Kam was getting better. How good was he going to be I don’t know. He was not a great player, he wasn’t dependable on defense at any time. Lowe is a shooter, it’s the opposite of what this team really needs. You add those 2 to the lineup and it’s highly possible Pope subs himself to death. Also and this is key, OO and Chandler probably don’t become the players they are today with Lowe and Kam on the court. When they went away, OO and Chandler became different players. This idea that with those 2 playing were sitting great? It’s possibly the opposite. It doesn’t matter anyway, injuries are part of sports and there are hundreds of coaches who have been fired that could have used that excuse and you never even knew it
Your troll kills me. Lol.
“What bad losses did we have when they were playing? Yes, there were blowouts”
This is Kentucky not Morehead lol.
20-9 we win the Auburn game nothing else changes (JQ gets the rebound on the final shot instead of Garrison watching the ball go to Auburn for the win)
Lowe wasn't all that great his getting hurt actually let DA become the star he has become.
Losing Kam Williams has opened the door for Chandler to get more minutes and become a star. Be nice if he got back for depth though soon,
JQ is the big one I miss because we have to play freaking Garrison way too much.
Lowe wasn't all that great his getting hurt actually let DA become the star he has become.
Losing Kam Williams has opened the door for Chandler to get more minutes and become a star. Be nice if he got back for depth though soon,
JQ is the big one I miss because we have to play freaking Garrison way too much.
Record is probably worse because more minutes would be taken from the best players. I’m not the fan that’s gonna say but but but we have injuries. Yea we have them. We will have them every year. Tired of the we suck but it’s ok because we have injury crowd. Bunch of Pope fans and not Kentucky fans.
I am not trying to troll. I am legitimately asking what bad teams did we lose to with those two playing?Your troll kills me. Lol.
“What bad losses did we have when they were playing? Yes, there were blowouts”
I would agree if we didn’t have the 30 point beatdowns this year. If we lost 15 games but they were all close I would say we don’t suck. When you win some good ones then get blown out by teams that you later beat. That’s not a good look.
yea we don’t “suck” that is an exaggeration I’ll admit. But I’m critiquing Kentucky. My expectations haven’t been lowered over the years. And they won’t. We don’t suck. But we are extremely mediocre.
24-5, maybe 25-4.
Don't forget Oweh's injury. No he didn't miss any games, but he clearly wasn't himself the first month of the season, I think still hesitant on the turf toe (an injury that has ended HOF careers).
Don't forget Oweh's injury. No he didn't miss any games, but he clearly wasn't himself the first month of the season, I think still hesitant on the turf toe (an injury that has ended HOF careers).
Good points. I think if JQ had played you could have played Kam at the four with him. Lowe would be good with the second unit as a scorer but there is no doubt in my mind our 3 guards all got better when he went out.
I’ll say the same, but most likely worse! Lowe is a mid major ball hog, and JQuit only looks like he can play basketball, and would have never sniffed that game winner that Moreno sunk, and those two would have taken precious reps from Aberdeen, Oweh, Chandler, and Moreno!
Williams was the only true “loss”…
The best thing to happen this season, is those two wimping out… Classic, addition by subtraction.
Williams was the only true “loss”…
The best thing to happen this season, is those two wimping out… Classic, addition by subtraction.
I agree if everyone is really healthy from day one of practice and stays that way 23–6 is reasonable and 24–5 is not unreasonable.
(Actually, the way I see that scenario UNC is pretty much a given. But if we had to try again at Arkansas in their gym even if we had those extra players, I don’t think it’s given we would necessarily turn into Arky killers like we did.)
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No difference the guys who got hurt are the same average portal castaways as the ones playing