3-13 in the SEC now . . . Paris has won 22 of 70 in the SEC

Piscis

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He needs more time. We have had some really good losses this season to some really good teams, we are really close. Anyone who can't see that doesn't know what they are looking at.

This time next year, we'll be talking about our seeding in the NCAAT.
 

rockingamecock

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He needs more time. We have had some really good losses this season to some really good teams, we are really close. Anyone who can't see that doesn't know what they are looking at.

This time next year, we'll be talking about our seeding in the NCAAT.
I'm not as optimistic as you are. There's no such thing as a "good loss".
 
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3USC1801

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He needs more time. We have had some really good losses this season to some really good teams, we are really close. Anyone who can't see that doesn't know what they are looking at.

This time next year, we'll be talking about our seeding in the NCAAT.
I’m telling ya, @18IsTheMan, you’re not keeping up! You’re gonna have to up your game to match @Piscis! :ROFLMAO:
 
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He needs more time. We have had some really good losses this season to some really good teams, we are really close. Anyone who can't see that doesn't know what they are looking at.

This time next year, we'll be talking about our seeding in the NCAAT.
Have you been drinking canned sunshine again?
 
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RL09

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He needs more time. We have had some really good losses this season to some really good teams, we are really close. Anyone who can't see that doesn't know what they are looking at.

This time next year, we'll be talking about our seeding in the NCAAT.
Is this your attempt at sarcasm?
 

92Pony

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He needs more time. We have had some really good losses this season to some really good teams, we are really close. Anyone who can't see that doesn't know what they are looking at.

This time next year, we'll be talking about our seeding in the NCAAT.
"One billion percent!"..... Oh, wait - wrong coach/sport. :p
 

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In statistics, we call that the outlier.
Even so, the outlier counts, and is evidence that when he has the right players he can coach winning basketball. I really don’t care either way, but if the admission is that the program hasn’t been supported well with adequate resources then how much fault is really his?
 

1vagamecock

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Even so, the outlier counts, and is evidence that when he has the right players he can coach winning basketball. I really don’t care either way, but if the admission is that the program hasn’t been supported well with adequate resources then how much fault is really his?
It's all his. He has millions to prove it. He is less than average at his job and needs to be replaced.
If not we will be having this same conversation next year.
 

18IsTheMan

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Even so, the outlier counts, and is evidence that when he has the right players he can coach winning basketball. I really don’t care either way, but if the admission is that the program hasn’t been supported well with adequate resources then how much fault is really his?

If the one good season counts for something, how much do the 3 disastrously horrible seasons count for?
 

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Even so, the outlier counts, and is evidence that when he has the right players he can coach winning basketball. I really don’t care either way, but if the admission is that the program hasn’t been supported well with adequate resources then how much fault is really his?

The problem is he can’t evaluate talent and recruit quality players out of the portal unless they are local guys wanting to come back home. Just look at the portal recruiting since Paris has been here—mostly huge misses. He was adequately supported this season as far as he was made available a number and didn’t use it all because he thought he put together a winner. The Big Spur put up an article today that shows how historically bad he has been here. So I’m not putting my faith in the outlier. I’m going with the entire body of work.
 
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LBGCOCK

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It's all his. He has millions to prove it. He is less than average at his job and needs to be replaced.
If not we will be having this same conversation next year.
Not saying that you’re wrong, but I disagree that it’s all his fault if in fact his hands are tied.
 

LBGCOCK

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If the one good season counts for something, how much do the 3 disastrously horrible seasons count for?
Hence the question of if the admission is that the program isn’t supported with adequate resources. If it’s not then the one good season should weigh more heavily, IMO, because you’re not supposed to be able to make chicken salad with chicken ****.
 

LBGCOCK

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The problem is he can’t evaluate talent and recruit quality players out of the portal unless they are local guys wanting to come back home. Just look at the portal recruiting since Paris has been here—mostly huge misses. He was adequately supported this season as far as he was made available a number and didn’t use it all because he thought he put together a winner. The Big Spur put up an article today that shows how historically bad he has been here. So I’m not putting my faith in the outlier. I’m going with the entire body of work.
If that’s true, and the program is adequately supported to produce winning basketball, then the fault is absolutely his. Like I said, I don’t care either way.
 
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Piscis

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Even so, the outlier counts, and is evidence that when he has the right players he can coach winning basketball. I really don’t care either way, but if the admission is that the program hasn’t been supported well with adequate resources then how much fault is really his?
This attitude is why Beamer still has a job.
 

LBGCOCK

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This attitude is why Beamer still has a job.
I’m one who is of the opinion that Beamer should not have been hired as HC. That said however, it is not the same at all. Football is adequately supported and recruits in the top 25, so I absolutely think that is all on him. If basketball is not adequately supported with the resources needed then LP’s hands are pretty much tied. The key word in that argument being “IF”.