Only in regard to a new Camaro and home. He bought those from his success in music. Nothing to do with his upbringing.
OT: Deliver Me From Nowhere (Springsteen Movie)
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The public will let them know when it is over. It doesn't look like it will be anytime soon. U2 and Bruce routinely sell out stadiums around the world.
Please elaborate on what you see as his “hypocrisy”.
He grew up with trauma in his house. His mom was a New Deal democrat and his alcoholic schizophrenic father would undoubtedly be a dyed in the wool Trumper.
Who he is politically is exactly who he’s always been. Yes he’s amassed fabulous wealth but that was based on his abilities, hard work, and a certain amount of luck. He owes no one any apologies for who he is, and he certainly doesn’t give a **** what his critics think of him.
Haters gonna hate though.
Dare to criticize the fuhrer at your own risk, the frothing hyenas will obediently attack on sight..
Back in the Seventies and Eighties when it was incredibly difficult to get Springsteen tickets I was one of the lucky ones who always seemed to be in the right place at the right time to get them. They weren't terribly expensive and I would get as many as they allowed for each show. When standing in line to get my tickets I would bump into people who were getting paid to stand in line and get as many tickets as they could by someone who was gonna sell them for way more than the actual price of the tickets. I always wondered how Bruce and his team allowed the resale market to make so much more than the artist did. I guess he figured it out in his old age.
Bruce was at the Manasquan inlet today. No bodyguards. Just chillin. I give him credit for trying to be a regular person. Most stars, let alone superstars, probably would be terrified to go out in public like that.
My politics are similar to Bruce's. However, greed is greed! It is neither liberal nor conservative. I guess A billion dollars isn't enough!!
If a popular artist, any popular artist, prices tickets far below market value the resellers bombard the system and gobble up most of the tickets and fans end up paying market value anyway. If they price tickets close to market value they get slammed for being greedy.
I’d rather see the money go to the artist, not resellers.
I’d rather see the money go to the artist, not resellers.
No practical way. You can’t stop someone from selling something they own. You could make all tickets available only on day of the event at will-call to limit reselling but it would be a nightmare for everyone else.
Not sure what they billion dollar comment is about.
My comment wasn't about politics.. (not saying u said it was)...just that this buy and sell thing continues to exist. There are tix everywhere for sale but man the prices are crazy. 4 figures to be watching from the front. Will be interesting to see where they go closer in.
They've talked about a better system forever but nothing has resulted.
Yup. Metallica is doing just that for their run of shows at Sphere in Vegas. It's a matter of Bruce and his management being one or more of too greedy, lazy and not caring about their fans, and more interests in making more money for themselves and the scalpers while all the working man heroes he sings about will be putting themselves in more credit card debt to see a show.
Many comedians are doing this. It can be done if you have the will
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It was difficult to get tickets in the 70s? Not.
- The Barn (Oct 12, 1976): A legendary performance with the E Street Band, featuring "The Miami Horns". Tickets were $7.50, and the show is remembered for Springsteen's intimate storytelling between songs.
Dont allow the scalpers to buy tickets in the first place. When Joe the plumber logs on to a ticket site the tickets sellout 10 seconds after they go on sale and the scalpers all seem to have them. Selling to scalpers in bulk needs to stop.
If the tickets are sold in blocks of 1-4 and the scalpers have to log on just like everyone else they will only get a block of 4 before the tix sellout.
Reselling is big business and the resellers will get around that, just like they got around the aforementioned effort by Metallica. Experience package tickets for Metallica at the Sphere went on sale today and already tickets are being resold at big markups on sites other than Ticketmaster.
I certainly don't remember the exact years that I was talking about (certainly late 70s and early 80s). But I sure do remember the long lines that formed behind me as I stood in line for Bruce tickets back then at the Flagship on rt. 22 and Alwick's records in downtown Elizabeth. The lines were incredible. I also remember all of my friends who wanted to pay ridiculous amounts above face value for some of my treasured Bruce tickets. I did eventually sell a few to some of them, but only at face value. That's the kind of guy I am.
BTW,the Springsteen shows that I saw during that time were easily the best concerts I've ever seen. In a class by themselves
As a pretty big Springsteen fan (but not a Bruce nut), I thought the film was great - much better than I expected, especially the portrayals of Bruce and Jon Landau and their complex but deep friendship and business relationship. I also loved how it captured the difficulties Bruce was going through and how they related to his childhood and was also fascinated by the portrayal of the creative process. My wife, who is lukewarm on Bruce's music, love the film too.
And it's astonishing that this thread hasn't been shut down ten times already for political content. I'm not sure why this thread and many of the posters have been given such a huge pass on the politics. Hmmmmm.
And it's astonishing that this thread hasn't been shut down ten times already for political content. I'm not sure why this thread and many of the posters have been given such a huge pass on the politics. Hmmmmm.
Your example says nothing about how hard it was to get those tix. I remember being in line for Bruce tix in the mid/late 70s a couple of times (didn't get them lol). After Born To Run's wild success getting tix to see Bruce was always tough.
Basic economics. If they were only $7 demand could not have been that great. Not much more than a movie ticket back then
It really wasn't THAT political and kinda managed to stay within the big lanes. It's even self modulated into other topics snd never got to the poster on poster bashing often seen . I appreciated the control by almost everyoseen on ne.
Still 50 cent slices in early 00's in NB (Marco's). Not really sure they were worth even that, tho. Better off springing for $1 slice elsewhere
I remember summer of 76…beer bust at the moon tower, cops harassing us at the football field, staying up all night and driving into east Texas for Aerosmith tickets the next morning. Kids today wouldn’t understand
Three years ago it was a fantastic lineup. Beach Boys, Wheezer, Foo Fighters all on the same stage in that order. Saw Cheryl Crow, Nathaniel Raitliff, Killers, Tosh Sultana (who was new to me and extremely talented). Next year was Bruce and was sold out in like 15 minutes. Missed out on tix but stayed in the area during the concert. We went to Wonder Bar and Pony after hour shows. We were front row at the Pony when Bruce showed up. Friggin awesome. Last year the lineup was not good. We decided to not get tickets but stay in the area and do the after shows like the year before. Had a blast doing that again. Our friends got VIP tickets last year but we didnt want to fork over the 800ish(?) bucks per VIP ticket. We will be there again this year, staying four nights and very well might forgo buying event tickets once again.
Were you around trying to score big concerts in the 70/80’s?
Almost any big show, you had to spend the night in line to get them. Most concerts were in that 7-20 range. I wasn’t a Bruce fan but back then, he was well known to keep prices down and give 2-3 hour shows.
I haven't read this whole thread but could throw in some points. My daughter and I both logged in to get tickets, her for Monday night in the Garden , me Saturday at the Garden. To try and slow down scalpers they do the following. You can not log in with multiple browsers like in the old days. You cannot keep refreshing your page and only one log in ID. One thing my daughter noticed, she goes to a lot of concerts, you could only by 4 tickets , it is usually 6- 8 . At noon I was number 64,000, lol , she was 1,400. Not sure how you get put into the queue. She got in first to select seats, and we got 4 seats at $220 each. Of course there was handling fees that I find awful high. There were seats at $85 and up.
Of course many people on this board are picking on Bruce because of his politics. But pricing is all about supply and demand.
If the prices were cheaper, scalpers would grab them and sell them way higher. For those of you stating pricing is cheaper for some shows at the sphere , that is totally BS. I saw the Eagles there and the tickets were $800 and not great seats. The Spere controls pricing and they are making millions per show no matter who is playing.
Bottom line is if you like Bruce's music you pay what you think it is worth, if you like Kid Rock the same.
Of course many people on this board are picking on Bruce because of his politics. But pricing is all about supply and demand.
If the prices were cheaper, scalpers would grab them and sell them way higher. For those of you stating pricing is cheaper for some shows at the sphere , that is totally BS. I saw the Eagles there and the tickets were $800 and not great seats. The Spere controls pricing and they are making millions per show no matter who is playing.
Bottom line is if you like Bruce's music you pay what you think it is worth, if you like Kid Rock the same.
Back in his prime, when I saw Springteen his concerts were always 3 to 4 hours long. I never figured out how he was able to do that.
I can't imagine that in his mid seventies he can do anything close to that.