Man I quoted the original argument. There isn't anything changing next year as you said. This is already what we've been doing since July. The settlement didn't change anything other than allowing schools to pay out 20m for athletes, and the NILgo.
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JMI deal was debunked when Stein started raking in higher level recruits with ease I think.
Would he take a million or 2 less to go to KU, you think?
All his leverage is lost if people around him are leaking information that he doesn’t want to go anywhere else.
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Great! Someone send this to Stokes and let him know he needs to change his hair style to fit the Kentucky majority culture. We don't wanna get Billy Bob getting upset!
Anon1770473266 was making a joke about others that have issues with the hairstyle of players.
How does anyone on this board have any idea of what we or any other school is offering Stokes? Seriously, how do you make the statement that Stokes may sign with Kansas for less money than what we are offering? Let us know what Kansas is offering and what we are offering. If the kid signs with us, GREAT. If he signs with Kansas or who ever, no one will have a clue what Stokes is being paid. Money is important but development, winning, and a coach or school that makes the kids comfortable is actually what makes the kid's final decision. It is still called RECRUITING. We need a recruiter in Lexington.
I think a junior Trent Noah is gonna be way better than freshman Stokes. In fact I can already envision those KSR summer posts about how Trent is lighting it up.
Guys, he’s a Jayhawk & wants to be from the sounds of it so no reason to get your hopes up or atleast I’m not going to.
He is turning us into Oakland.
I don't want him...
I just get a bad vibe from him with the issues he's had in H.S.
If we're going to pay CRAZY money for a high school player, he needs to check two boxes.
He needs to be "can't miss" good, and he needs to be an unbelievably good kid.
He may be a good kid, but I'm not sure, and he's good, but he ain't Cooper Flagg...
I just get a bad vibe from him with the issues he's had in H.S.
If we're going to pay CRAZY money for a high school player, he needs to check two boxes.
He needs to be "can't miss" good, and he needs to be an unbelievably good kid.
He may be a good kid, but I'm not sure, and he's good, but he ain't Cooper Flagg...
All the GM does is advanced scouting and contracts. The kids have to want to come here and play for our coach before anything else happens. We can't get most of the elite talent to come here to play for Pope, Second tier talent coming but only after we pay them more money than they can get other places. You can overpay almost anyone in any profession to get them to come work for you if you offer enough. That is what we did last year is overpay. I don't think the GM position will make much difference.
Is he a great player? Yes, obviously
Can a great player kill chemistry on a team?
Yes, obviously
Be careful what you wish for
Can a great player kill chemistry on a team?
Yes, obviously
Be careful what you wish for
What ******** …Trent Noah isn’t
. He should be playing at WKU not UKStokes said himself he don’t want to be at Kentucky….isnt that clear enough for you?
I love all of these posters acting as if Stokes is the second coming and the key to our success and the reality is none of you have any idea how good he is, most have probably never even seen a highlight and many are still living in the one and done Calipari era or else, it is what it is.
How many unanimous #1 players have you seen flop?
It's actually pretty rare that one player is #1 by every single recruiting service
That's Lebron, KD, Flagg territory even though every class strength is different.
His attitude and coachability will determine his impact not his skills.
It 100% a factor.
Is it the factor, who knows.
If you're going to coach Stokes you better hope he likes you or it will probably get ugly at some point.
The Stokes commitment would more than anything be a mental soother to most of BBN. The actual effect it would have on the strength of our team would be a lot less. It might even be detrimental. You’re never gonna turn away a player of this magnitude, but it ISN’T the end all. At all.
How many impactful players have you seen that has already shown his attitude concerns and been to as many HS's as he has, he might be great, I don't know, but at least I am not making assumptions about him
We should all be concerned he does not want Ky even if Kansas pays him less. But we should also be curious why that is. In my business if a customer doesn't do business with me because to perfers to do business with one of my competitors and my deal is better I have to find out why to get better.
The GM will have a staff. Contracts most likely but player acquisitions / relationships will be another person. Proabably 1 or 2 more staff members the scrutinize the talent in the portal. Of course they will advise the GM.
I don't know that any HS player is worth 6 mil. And this one comes with baggage. If I did the payout would be structured with incentives but playing within the team's system and not just their individual stats. I would also add incentives for locker room performance. So if he wants 6 mil, then earn it. Miss games wihout cause, no pay for the ones missed. You want the money, then there are rules to obtain it.
For 4-5 million, let KU choke on that. It should do wonders for the locker room. The kid is a great athlete but not quite a great basketball player yet. He needs work from 3, pull-up shooting, decision making, ball handing and generally reducing t/o's.
Maybe by late season he'll become a very good college player but more likely, as we've seen here ever since Cal came along, these high school superstars dont normally start maturing into their games until they're in the NBA.
Paying a 1 and done what he is reportedly demanding is foolish for the overall program.
Maybe by late season he'll become a very good college player but more likely, as we've seen here ever since Cal came along, these high school superstars dont normally start maturing into their games until they're in the NBA.
Paying a 1 and done what he is reportedly demanding is foolish for the overall program.
Pope has no history of working with and developing NBA elite talent
Pope’s system (when everyone is healthy). Minute restrictions
Pope’s personality. He is a dork and a mental meltdown waiting to happen.
There’s more. But that’s the big 3
Instead we have Mitch and Pope holding our program hostage from being anything more than a 6th place finish in the SEC.
Is it just me or did Pope seem alot more mentally tough last year? I don't necessarily like the "only positivity" aspect, but I feel like he never broke like he has multiple times last year. I remember watching all the press conferences and even when they lost he didn't seem pouty or depressed. He answered almost every question perfectly last year. I remember him not making any excuses after the Texas loss when someone asked him how injuries were affecting the team and he wouldn't give that question the time of day. Said they should be able to win with the players they had. Just doesn't seem like the same guy. Maybe I just had blue shaded sunglasses last year I don't know.