Time to collect our 57th conference trophy! Talk was starting in other threads so never too early to start this one.
Big12 Championship
- Thread starter Chasingthirty-five
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I’m super excited to see allocations! I like going by Wrestlestat, but here are the Top 15 guys per weight.
25-3
33- 4
41- 3
49- 2
57- 4
65- 3
74- 4
84- 5
97- 6
285- 4
25-3
33- 4
41- 3
49- 2
57- 4
65- 3
74- 4
84- 5
97- 6
285- 4
Big 12 OSU seed guesses
25-1
33- 1
41- 1
49- 1
57- 1
65- 1
74- 1 or 2 (Steed is his prime comp, will be 1 since he has head to head)
84- 2
97- 2
285- 2
25-1
33- 1
41- 1
49- 1
57- 1
65- 1
74- 1 or 2 (Steed is his prime comp, will be 1 since he has head to head)
84- 2
97- 2
285- 2
Excited to see him against Novak and hopefully Elam a 2nd time.
I have:
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3
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1
1
1
1
2 (3 wouldn’t shock me for some reason)
2
2
I think they’ll punish the fact that Jax hasn’t wrestled as much and give Larkin and Frost the nod.
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3
1
1
1
1
1
2 (3 wouldn’t shock me for some reason)
2
2
I think they’ll punish the fact that Jax hasn’t wrestled as much and give Larkin and Frost the nod.
I think he goes 2 over Novak. Cody has like 3 more conference wins than Joey and they have the same conference loss to Elam.
How many B12 matches does Frost have and when did he last wrestle?
Touché. You’re right. He has more total matches but his Big12 record is 3-0. Last wrestled 1/25.
Jax is technically 4-0 but has two big non-con wins and there is a human aspect to the seeding that should put him ahead.
Thanks! I would give Jax the 2. Larkin is 5-0 in conference. He lost to Frost at Cliff Keen though.
I dont mind Jax as 3-4 seed so he doesnt get a bye and wrestles as many matches as possible.
Anything other than the 1 seed will be good for Jax so he can face both Larkin and Frost.
Does anyone have the seeding matrix for the Big 12?
Looking ahead to NCAAs Im much more concerned with who needs to win B12s than the seeds.
125 rankings are to wonky to call. But if Troy wins 12s he increases his chances of seeing a Seymore, Ventresca or even Bouzakis in the quarters/ semis in Cleveland who I feel like are all better matchups for him.
133- Jax needs to and should win the B12s. I think this puts him on the bottom at Nats and away from Seidel who is the only one I would like to see on the opposite side (only because I like AS) besides maybe Blaze. Id love to see a Jax/ Seidel final.
141- When Serge makes the finals he's a lock at NCAAs for the 2 or 3 seed away from Mendez.
149- IMO Casey HAS to win 12s to get the 6-7 seed and be away from SVN whos a bad match up. With one of those seeds his path to the semis and potentially finals in Cleveland increases greatly.
157- Im up in the air here as far as the better draw at Nats so I just want Robideau to kickazz.
165- Dee needs to win 12s or he'll see MM in the semis. Its that simple.
174- Alex needs to win and should get 6-7 seed at NCAAs. That should put him on the bottom w/ most likely Kennedy and Ruiz. Ruiz was an 0-2 match at NDI and he's been close with Kennedy.
184- Is a mess and filled with B10 guys. If Ryder makes the finals w/ Sinclair I have no idea how seeding will work out at the big show.
197- If Cody wrestles his panda azz off and wins the damn thing he can get the 2-3 at Nats. If he takes 2nd I think he gets the 5. If he loses to Novak in the semis I think he gets the 6-7.
285-This weight is a lot like 184 and stacked w/ B10 guys. If KD makes the finals I think he possibly gets the 5 seed. If he does lose to CC in the semis I think he ends up around the 9 or so. Either way we need to see the best version of KD at NCAAs. Im no D1 coach but I'd have him working reshot, reshot, reshot!
I know this is a little different than whats being discussed here but its just what came to my mind. Go Pokes!
125 rankings are to wonky to call. But if Troy wins 12s he increases his chances of seeing a Seymore, Ventresca or even Bouzakis in the quarters/ semis in Cleveland who I feel like are all better matchups for him.
133- Jax needs to and should win the B12s. I think this puts him on the bottom at Nats and away from Seidel who is the only one I would like to see on the opposite side (only because I like AS) besides maybe Blaze. Id love to see a Jax/ Seidel final.
141- When Serge makes the finals he's a lock at NCAAs for the 2 or 3 seed away from Mendez.
149- IMO Casey HAS to win 12s to get the 6-7 seed and be away from SVN whos a bad match up. With one of those seeds his path to the semis and potentially finals in Cleveland increases greatly.
157- Im up in the air here as far as the better draw at Nats so I just want Robideau to kickazz.
165- Dee needs to win 12s or he'll see MM in the semis. Its that simple.
174- Alex needs to win and should get 6-7 seed at NCAAs. That should put him on the bottom w/ most likely Kennedy and Ruiz. Ruiz was an 0-2 match at NDI and he's been close with Kennedy.
184- Is a mess and filled with B10 guys. If Ryder makes the finals w/ Sinclair I have no idea how seeding will work out at the big show.
197- If Cody wrestles his panda azz off and wins the damn thing he can get the 2-3 at Nats. If he takes 2nd I think he gets the 5. If he loses to Novak in the semis I think he gets the 6-7.
285-This weight is a lot like 184 and stacked w/ B10 guys. If KD makes the finals I think he possibly gets the 5 seed. If he does lose to CC in the semis I think he ends up around the 9 or so. Either way we need to see the best version of KD at NCAAs. Im no D1 coach but I'd have him working reshot, reshot, reshot!
I know this is a little different than whats being discussed here but its just what came to my mind. Go Pokes!
If he loses to Echemendia that could put both Ech and Stanich in front of him
I know nothing about seeding criteria. Would Stanich get it because he is undefeated? I think Stanich is a great wrestler but his resume this year isn't super impressive.
I dont think Stanich has enough ranked wins and has a low match count.
If Serge gets second I think he gets the 3 at Ncaa's.
I think it is a possibility that Stanich passes Vega, but it is a small one. He won't have an RPI tier and his SOS is trash.
Here are the deltas to last year.
The 288 allocations this year are the highest since at least 2021. It is as hard as every to get an At-Large.
This year there are 42 At-Large spots. In the past five tournaments there were 43, 47, 45, 43, and 64 (ah, COVID).
Some of these are brutal. Four allocations at 165 and five at 125
I was pleased with it honestly.
Troy only has 2 other guys ranked Top 15 at Wrestlestat, same with Dee.
Troy has Stevo and Stickenberger while Dee has Ryder and Nicco Ruiz.
Lando and Cody are the guys that caught a tough bracket, Konnor has a decently tough bracket as well.
Lando has Ty Watters, Zerban and Larkin. Cody has Elam, Novak, Berge and Parker. Konnor has Bastida, Szuba, Mora and Carroll.
Either way, if our guys don't fulfill the AQ, they don't need to Wrestle in Cleveland anyway.
165 is a pretty weak weight for the Big 12 honestly so that makes sense.
Five Big 12 guys in Flo's top 13. At least one of them won't get an auto qualification
I was very bullish on Casey before the season, and then I soured on him, and then I got bullish on him again, and then he tweaked something. So I have no idea what to expect. 149 is very soft though. Other than Casey winning the damn thing, nothing would surprise me.
He was going HARD the day of the Iowa dual. But the decision to not wrestle had already been made ahead of time.
He's as fine as he's gonna be. The last version of Swiddy we saw is a finalist if he's on the other side of Van Ness.
Will all depend on how his knee holds up with multiple matches in a day
184 and followed by 149 and HWT are the least confident I am that we AA. Hopefully we get 7-8 AAs and 2-3 finalists, 1 champ. Will be great tournament if this happens.
149 is just a pretty bad weight. As up and down as Casey has been there simply aren't many guys at the weight he can't beat. Of course assuming he has two knees.
Maybe DT has a line to the witch doctor Carl uses.
This is awesome and only part 1! Loved seeing coach’s thoughts on the guys not attacking. Can’t wait to see what these guys bring to the post season.
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Osu48, if you had only looked, it's on the big 12 site. Is Monday
Thought this was rude then saw who you were replying to lmao
People going to the @Big12Conference Wrestling Championships are the upper and lower GA the same price? Don’t see upper available to buy anywhere and that would be better viewing than from the corners on the floor i think. Just don’t want to buy tickets and not be able to sit there. It may be a dumb question I’ve never bought ga tickets at BOK or for big 12’s before and wasn’t sure if worked like GIA.
I honestly don’t know if you’re question can be answered?
I know they don’t check tickets going to the 200 levels and people sit wherever until somebody tells them they are in the wrong seat, which is always the ticket holder.
They don't typically open the top is ticket sales don't support the need. I don't think it was open last year.