How many sexual assault complaints have you taken from initial to investigation to deciding it's nonsense then going to indictment then trial?
Again, this guy has done this hundreds of times and you looked up stuff on the internet.
Racism and Sexual Assault allegations against PSU wrestling
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Again, this guy has done this hundreds of times and you looked up stuff on the internet.
And they don't? I've experienced a false accusation personally myself. Had to talk to a state investigator. It went nowhere because it was online retaliation due to my personal broiled thst PSU officials covered up for Sandusky .
Remember the reason I know that certain PSU officials covered for Sadusky was from this person, this person also told me his other experiences was sexual assault cases from institutional trial sexual abuse to individual assaults. And he said the majority of initial compliance that they receive are false. They run 70 to 80%.
They realize that they're full of crap so bad that they don't even really open up an official investigation. It goes nowhere. Like if you choose to accuse your ex-boyfriend of sexually assaulting you and he proves he was in say I don't know Cabk San Lucas at that week your case falls apart pretty quickly. Especially when I find out that you did it because he slept with your sister.
Bullies know who to bully. Makes perfect sense.
Loys of gibberish. But he clearly said he didn’t sign up to have things shoved up his ***.
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I only saw the longer clip, not couple other short ones, but I didn't really take his remarks as being focused on racism per se, more about attempted cult-like abuse or coersion or serious fraternity-like hazing regardless of your DNA.
WTF goes on in the PSU sports programs? And administration? This type of behavior is getting more and more commonplace and seemingly acceptable. I'd hope recruits in any of their sports look and listen closely.
Of course they will. They learned well from JoPa and the rest, it's in their DNA. Step one, deny. Step two, attack and destroy the accusers.
Let me think. How many African American (black) wrestlers have excelled at Penn State under Cael and company? How many of them were screaming racism or have since screamed racism? And here we have one individual who didn't make the lineup (in fact I've never even heard of him), who screams racism and we're going to get all excited. Let me see an investigation with findings and I'll get excited, but for all we know at this point is that we have one person who didn't make the cut who may or may not have an axe to grind. And I'm not saying his allegations aren't legit, I'm just saying that I haven't seen an investigation or findings. And I see some have already jumped back to the Sandusky ordeal, trying to compare the two. OMG! How about we all just sit back, let the proper officials investigate, if there's even enough to investigate, and then get all excited if something comes from this. Some people want to knock PSU wrestling and Cael off the proverbial pedestal, and I totally get it, but why can't we spend all of our efforts finding a way to beat them on the mat? As fans, I would think that's what we would want our program, our coaches and our wrestlers to focus on...so I think that's what we should focus on. What I really find hilarious is that if Cael was our coach and we were kicking everyone's asses you all would love the guy and (proverbially) worship the ground he walks on...and you wouldn't accept any of this media "stuff" unless it was proven factual. Yet because he's not our coach and we're the ones getting our asses kicked this is where we're at. Get a f'ing grip.
I hesitate to bring this up because I’m not trying to rehash anything but this shows impressive growth on your behalf.
I agree with some of your points, but I don’t think you’d be so casual about it if it were Iowa that was accused of allowing sexual assault, and Iowa had 2 wrestlers alleging it.
We will never know the truth because nothing will ever be investigated I bet. Multiple people have now made accusations of similar things. Other than being drug through the mud, what would they gain by making up false stories is my question? I'm guessing the truth lies somewhere in the middle as I highly doubt nothing happened. Why is CStar, PSU's most highly decorated wrestler (and that is impressive in itself) booted out of the program immediately after his 5th title? Instead, it is nothing to see here, just carry on. I never liked CStar as a person without even ever meeting him and I think he was allowed to get away with being a douchebag because of his talent, but once his eligibility was up, they were glad to get rid of him.
Did they actually get rid of Starocci? I thought they ended up keeping him?
The stars of PSU are not black, there are black and white and brown stars. One of those 3 stars you mentioned was accused of sexual assault himself and removed from the team.
With the amount of eyeballs on the PSU program and its many detractors chomping at the bit to take it down, if anything were to be found, it would have by now.
Get a grip? I’m not saying someone should be fired or charged but two people saying the same thing regarding the locker room stuff certainly deserves some questions being asked.
You claim one aspect of the allegations are garbage because nobody else ever publicly claimed to have experienced it. Well, two people felt that they experienced sexual assault. You can put your head in the sand if you want but this has nothing to do with them winning.
Let me start by saying where there is smoke there usually fire. Remember the Gable problem at Minnesota ? Kinda worked its way out. CStar has been a POS from day 1. I believe Brooks kept him in line and when he was gone all hell broke loose. I am also in agreement that McHenry is upset because he is working at McDonalds and not wrestling on the world stage. I’m joking about McDs. PSU has many warts and when you are as successful as they have been you bring this stuff on. Gables teams of the 80s were accused of not going to class, taking underwater basket weaving as a major. this is also ironic that it comes up 1 week before post-season. IMO they will look into it and consider the source as not credible. Did he go to the administration? Did he go to Cael? Social media absolutely sucks. You can say anything you want and have no consequences.
Bartlett said he went to the coaching staff about the situation…
I hear they are trying to investigate but haven't been able to locate and interview Kurt, seems the police are at a dead end and are ending the investigation. Carry on.
Kind of like their football program awhile back, eh?
My bad, Max. I wasn't aiming that at you; it was more of a general statement. And I'm not saying that a couple stupid jocks didn't do something way out of hand...things that definitely deserved a good *** kicking...and I mean a good one. But so far I've seen nothing that says let's take down PSU's wrestling program or the coaches that are part of that program. Not even close. Perhaps someday, but I doubt it...
Agree with you on most of this. But not going to Cael or PSU administration means nothing. Most people wouldn't if there was hints of cover ups.
I would be the same as I am now. Let's investigate it and if found true let's punish the parties involved to the extent the punishment fits the crime. And I'm not casual about it; I'm saying let the system do it's job and let's us focus on finding ways to beat PSU on the mat. Some of you guys act like I'm a PSU fan which is not the case. But I refuse to bash people just because they coach at a certain school or because they are college kids who chose a program that they believe will give them the best chance at winning a national championship. And how many national champions has Cael produced through the years? I guess that many kids made the right choice, no? Sure wish more of those kids felt they could win at Iowa, but clearly our track record paints a different picture. But let's not focus on wrestling...let's concern ourselves with one 20 year old sticking his finger in another 20-year olds *** or whatever the f*ck allegedly happened...and FWIW, I do believe that did happen. And trust me fellas, if the NCAA had enough to take significant action, in this day and age they would definitely do so. They couldn't afford not to.
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I think you pretty much nailed it. I have no knowledge, but I would venture a guess that there was probably some sort of internal investigation that led to Starroci no longer being there. Everything seems to revolve around that time frame. Maybe the next investigation will be more on the staff response to the allegations. Im sure its been put out there, but Im not sure when the coaches were made aware of the situation.
On a side note, does anyone think this type of thing is more of an issue partly due to the changes with NIL? Not the particular allegations in this case, but overall. It seems that one individual was causing most of these issues. His points helped, but I don't think they needed them for a team title. I know the MO thing isnt really relevant to this situation, but I'm sure with money involved, the coaches are in a tougher spot with removing a wrestler. Im not defending anyone, just generally curious.
OK, Max, What's the punishment for one jock poking another jock in the *** with his finger? Should we imprison him? And if Bartlett really wanted action and the coaching staff didn't act, he should have gone to the police and filed assault charges....or hell, file a grievance with the NCAA that he's being assaulted. But in this case, I just don't think this would ever be founded as sexual assault since I definitely don't think it was done so for a sexual purpose. That whole sexual assault thing generally has to include a sexual purpose and I don't know that's the case or someone would have elevated it.
Literally and figuratively, and thusly sometimes difficult for me to determine which when he speaks in volumes of gibberish.
Oh, they're looking and listening. In fact those wrestling recruits keep listening so well that they choose PSU over pretty much any other shool, as do their parents. And believe me, if those parents thought for a second their children would be molested, assaulted, etc., there's no chance they would send them to PSU...but they still do. And DT is one of Cael's boys, and he's the other big draw. So I'm guessing the recruits and their parents feel pretty good about their college choices. Can't wait for the Okie dual; ready to talk wrestling!!
This seems a lot like the Northwestern football thing (or heck even the Iowa frat hazing video that just came out) and not sure the coaching staff at PSU would know anything about any of this. On the other hand PSU people on here, trying to justify or excuse Sandusky, well that’s just plain insanity.
Kinda sad that tonight is one of the biggest matches of the year and the top thread on your page is about PSU.PSU derangement syndrome
That would make more sense if another program made the allegations…this came from wrestlers in the program, what motivation would there be for them?
Well for starters they should probably not allow the guilty parties to continue training there. After that maybe some mandatory reporter training. I guess it depends on what could be proven.
Well if this happened at Iowa you can bet it would be a topic of discussion all over the internet wrestling community. And it ain’t because we are winning lol
Or like PSU fans fans cover things up to worship Cael. He is a scumbag. plain and simple. POS human being.
Well for 1, i would assume the coaching staff are mandatory reporters for something like that so if he told them, they would by law have to report that. And 2, saying it wasn’t sexual in nature ain’t gna work. Go grab a womans boobs and tell the cops it was just a prank, see how that works out.
What does that say about you being on an opposing teams’ board with all the success your team has had? Kinda sad you can’t have discussion with your knowledgeable fanbase and have to go to others.
1. We don't have real facts about this situation. Probably never will.
2. Social media (X and Fbook) sucks. Terrible information sources and mostly a fire hose of propaganda aimed at a flicker of truth.
3. Let the PSU administration and the justice system handle their internal problems. What goes around comes around.
4. So sad that Nit fans come on this board to spin it. They always do.
2. Social media (X and Fbook) sucks. Terrible information sources and mostly a fire hose of propaganda aimed at a flicker of truth.
3. Let the PSU administration and the justice system handle their internal problems. What goes around comes around.
4. So sad that Nit fans come on this board to spin it. They always do.