Deal has potential but

Kceasthawk@77

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Maybe they should just tell the truth that the Big 10 has never really done much in women’s basketball at the Championship level. Purdue won in 1999 and Maryland won in 2006 when they were not even in the Big10
To be clear, I'm ALL for the high expectations. Thats what I'd want my coaches to push for. I just don't think you can expect that and just do business as usual. We caught lightening in a bottle once in the last decade, And Lisa and Jan knew it from the minute they gave CC22 the keys to the offense.
 

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I didn't know we were discussing good team mate value. Do we have weaknesses that need to be addressed? Like I said before, the Iowa culture thing is SUPER. It really is. BUT if we are going to sit in press conferences every year (post CC22) and state that are goal is to keep that momentum as a team that can go to final4's, then how should the coach evaluate her roster. Thats all I'm asking.

That's probably why recruited Bjorn and others, (and missed) because she knows she needs to improver the roster. I believe she has to some extent, but hopefully it will get even better.
 

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Monika Czinano averaged 1.9 points and 5.3 minutes per game as a freshman BTW.
Love this point!

They'd have wanted Kate Martin gone too.
Her redshirt freshman year, she averaged 2.4 pts and 8.1 minutes per game.
Shot 18% from 3 and 32% overall.

Also, some people forget that Layla has had far less training and play against elite high school players than anyone on the Iowa roster for a very long time. She mostly didn't play on any elite summer circuits like all of the All Iowa Attack, etc, other players. I certainly expected her to have a rougher start than she has had.
 

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To be honest, Iowa lacks the athleticism and quality depth of the top teams. Who would start on a top 5 team? They are what they are. Probably top 15 to 20 type of team.
 
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I posted a couple of weeks or so ago, when everyone was over the top on Deal when she had a couple good games, and not necessarily referencing her, that there were road games coming up. I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't do just fine on Thursday.
 

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To be honest, Iowa lacks the athleticism and quality depth of the top teams. Who would start on a top 5 team? They are what they are. Probably top 15 to 20 type of team.
To be honest, Iowa lacks the athleticism and quality depth of the top teams. Who would start on a top 5 team? They are what they are. Probably top 15 to 20 type of team.
UH??? So other then UCLA how many teams would Ava Heiden not start for? UConn. Anyone else, its not because she's not worthy, but because they have someone like Beers at OK, Betts at UCLA. Hell she might even start next to Strong at UConn if she was there. She's certainly in the discussion of top centers, beyond Betts who maybe NPOTY again. And before you say Crooks at ISU, honestly if you were building a team around a center would you take Heiden with her upward growth and athleticism, or Crooks?
 
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Jonesy5960

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since her freshman of the week game (OSU)

5 games:

shooting 4/16
5 rebounds
6 assists
9 turnovers
I think that stint in the starting lineup set her back mentally. She wasn't ready for the bright lights against good competition and ever since then she's looked like that same indecisive freshman that we saw earlier in the year. She needs to find her way back to where she was without trying to force things offensively. Defense and rebounding is a good place to start and hopefully the upcoming game against Purdue will allow some extended minutes to see if she can find a rhythm.
 

Kceasthawk@77

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I think that stint in the starting lineup set her back mentally. She wasn't ready for the bright lights against good competition and ever since then she's looked like that same indecisive freshman that we saw earlier in the year. She needs to find her way back to where she was without trying to force things offensively. Defense and rebounding is a good place to start and hopefully the upcoming game against Purdue will allow some extended minutes to see if she can find a rhythm.
So who was on the floor against OSU (a top 15 team) when she basically started, (came in the first 25 seconds). Was it just that she didn't even have time to think about it? Its funny how much better players look when their first couple of shots go in, and the opposition doesn't have a good scout on you.
 
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Jonesy5960

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So who was on the floor against OSU (a top 15 team) when she basically started, (came in the first 25 seconds). Was it just that she didn't even have time to think about it? Its funny how much better players look when their first couple of shots go in, and the opposition doesn't have a good scout on you.
I think she was accustomed to coming off the bench is all. Different mindset being in the starting lineup. Some players thrive on it. Others not so much. I remember a guy on the men's side a few years ago that won 6th man of the year. He was never as effective in a starting role as he was coming off the bench. Doesn't mean she'll never return to the starting lineup, but she regressed mightily when Jan inserted her and she hasn't quite recovered back to where she was. Inconsistency is often a hallmark trait for freshmen players, and Deal is no exception.

That's what's made Houston so impressive. She's only a freshman, but she's easily been one of the most consistent players on the floor. In conference play she's only had one game with more than 1 turnover and only 2 games where she has failed to shoot an EFG% of less than 50%. On top of that she rebounds at the highest rate on the team. That's freaking amazing for anyone. Let alone a freshman.
 

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UH??? So other then UCLA how many teams would Ava Heiden not start for? UConn. Anyone else, its not because she's not worthy, but because they have someone like Beers at OK, Betts at UCLA. Hell she might even start next to Strong at UConn if she was there. She's certainly in the discussion of top centers, beyond Betts who maybe NPOTY again. And before you say Crooks at ISU, honestly if you were building a team around a center would you take Heiden with her upward growth and athleticism, or Crooks?
Ava might be the exception.
 

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Once again: Everyone take a deep breath and relax on Deal
She's gonna be fine.
The game will slow wayyyyyyy down for her in year 2. She will come back next fall as a completely different player.
Patience young grasshoppers.
 

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Deal is slow. Not sure what else there is to say? I hope she finds her quickness or the game slows down for her or whatever other cliche' you want to declare on her behalf.
Have you ever played sports? Do you understand what the game slowing down means?

Deal isn't mentally processing college level basketball fast enough at this point. When you watch her play, you can see her indecision. She is a freshman, with new teammates, against a high level of competition, playing in a system she started learning this year.

She will make progress given time. You can continue to rag on her if you want, but you sound ignorant imo.
 

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Have you ever played sports? Do you understand what the game slowing down means?

Deal isn't mentally processing college level basketball fast enough at this point. When you watch her play, you can see her indecision. She is a freshman, with new teammates, against a high level of competition, playing in a system she started learning this year.

She will make progress given time. You can continue to rag on her if you want, but you sound ignorant imo.
She’s indecisive (which will improve), but she’s also not overly athletic (which won’t).

She & Stremlow will be good players for us, but both lack high-level athleticism.
 

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Deal is slow. Not sure what else there is to say? I hope she finds her quickness or the game slows down for her or whatever other cliche' you want to declare on her behalf.
agree she is slow and agree hopefully she will find her game tomorrow
 

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Have you ever played sports? Do you understand what the game slowing down means?

Deal isn't mentally processing college level basketball fast enough at this point. When you watch her play, you can see her indecision. She is a freshman, with new teammates, against a high level of competition, playing in a system she started learning this year.

She will make progress given time. You can continue to rag on her if you want, but you sound ignorant imo.
relax
 

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Addie Deal one of the top players in all of California, a McDonalds All American, can pass, shoot the 3 and drive by her defender and shoot a short jumper as she has done several times this season, and now a few so called experts (lol) say she's slow. Some of you ought to just quit while you're behind.
 
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Addie Deal one of the top players in all of California, a McDonalds All American, can pass, shoot the 3 and drive by her defender and shoot a short jumper as she has done several times this season, and now a few so called experts (lol) say she's slow. Some of you ought to just quit while you're behind.
She is slow
 

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Deal is slow. Not sure what else there is to say? I hope she finds her quickness or the game slows down for her or whatever other cliche' you want to declare on her behalf.
Deal is slow. Not sure what else there is to say? I hope she finds her quickness or the game slows down for her or whatever other cliche' you want to declare on her behalf.
You guys are WAY over blowing this "slow" thing. She's as athletic as Stremlow, and she's looked GREAT the last several games. Deal scored fantastic driving and shooting against OSU who probably has much better "athletes" then Iowa. As others have said she just needs to let the game slow down and come to her. For a point of reference CC22 was certainly not as quick or athletic as some of the guards she used to destroy on a nightly basis. Basketball IQ, knowledge of the system, and skill goes along way, and Deal just needs the knowledge part.
 

Jonesy5960

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She is slow
She's not a great athlete, but her lack of experience is a huge part of it. She doesn't yet know or have confidence in what she's doing, so she's slow to respond to whatever the opponent is throwing at her. She looks a step slower physically because she's always reacting without anticipating. From that perspective she looks like most freshmen that enter the league.
 

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calm the big lebowski GIF
 
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She's not a great athlete, but her lack of experience is a huge part of it. She doesn't yet know or have confidence in what she's doing, so she's slow to respond to whatever the opponent is throwing at her. She looks a step slower physically because she's always reacting without anticipating. From that perspective she looks like most freshmen that enter the league.
She's also still getting into B10 college basketball shape........
 

Kceasthawk@77

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She needs work on quickness and slimming down abit. More strength and less bulk. Lean mean and quick.
You guys really need to stop the body shaming. Does Stremlow need to lose 15lbs? Everybody's not the same. She'll be fine as she gets more court time and then game slows down for her. She's a much better athlete then the critics think on here.