Realistically who could we get next?

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First of all, Pitino was no 3rd choice. Not at all. It’s just that our AD at the time didn’t know he was even available and didn’t inquire. He never thought Pitino would have any interests and even almost talked him out of taking it. He was 100% not a 3rd choice. He likely would have been a 1st choice had Newton actually thought he was interested lol. Some of these stories are just nonsense. Newton has explained this many times and Pratt used to love talking about it. Pitino wanting this job was an absolute shocker to all involved. The first thing our AD said to Pitino when he realized he wanted the job, “why”? We were coming off probation and Pitino was one of the hottest younger names in basketball. And HE WANTED IT. LOL!!

Also, PJ wasn’t some scrub and Kentucky might have made him one of the best. He went on to the NBA in 93 and never left. That’s the real reason he turned UK down, he wanted to go to the pros. That was something he actually said years ago, he had a hard time leaving SH but wanted to coach in the NBA.

Olsen wanted this job. It’s probably the only Job he would have even considered. Some of you need to get this at some point. Being turned down doesn’t matter, how interested were they is what matters. Kentucky is so attractive it can get guys who would never leave where they are to take a hard look. Drew opting not to take it because of his wife didn’t mean sht when it comes to UK. The fact that he wanted the job after winning a title, and when he’s never even look at anyone else, is what matters.

“Calipari had a lesser program”. So what? He was out recruiting UK, making final fours over UK, and was winning well beyond UK, and beating UK. And guess what? THIS board said he wouldn’t leave Memphis for Kentucky. This board has been constantly wrong about the power of this job and it’s doing the same sht again. And there are some really bad historians here too.

Kentucky is not a job every man can take. You’re in a fishbowl, you’re famous, and you have to win to elite levels. The best typically want that, it’s why Calipari wanted it. The difference is some aren’t that type of competitor, or they have some kind of ties where they just can’t do it. But they want it. This is the most coveted job in the sport. That’s not going to change at all, and just because some can’t take it or their wife doesn’t want to move their kids doesn’t mean what some of you think it means.

Oh, Donovan was an eyelash from taking this job also, he nearly took it over taking the NBA positions. But he wanted to coach pros at the end of the day. Donovan doesn’t go pro, he leaves his 2 time championship pedigree at Florida to come to UK.

All of this other stuff is

First of all, Pitino was no 3rd choice. Not at all. It’s just that our AD at the time didn’t know he was even available and didn’t inquire. He never thought Pitino would have any interests and even almost talked him out of taking it. He was 100% not a 3rd choice. He likely would have been a 1st choice had Newton actually thought he was interested lol. Some of these stories are just nonsense. Newton has explained this many times and Pratt used to love talking about it. Pitino wanting this job was an absolute shocker to all involved. The first thing our AD said to Pitino when he realized he wanted the job, “why”? We were coming off probation and Pitino was one of the hottest younger names in basketball. And HE WANTED IT. LOL!!

Also, PJ wasn’t some scrub and Kentucky might have made him one of the best. He went on to the NBA in 93 and never left. That’s the real reason he turned UK down, he wanted to go to the pros. That was something he actually said years ago, he had a hard time leaving SH but wanted to coach in the NBA.

Olsen wanted this job. It’s probably the only Job he would have even considered. Some of you need to get this at some point. Being turned down doesn’t matter, how interested were they is what matters. Kentucky is so attractive it can get guys who would never leave where they are to take a hard look. Drew opting not to take it because of his wife didn’t mean sht when it comes to UK. The fact that he wanted the job after winning a title, and when he’s never even look at anyone else, is what matters.

“Calipari had a lesser program”. So what? He was out recruiting UK, making final fours over UK, and was winning well beyond UK, and beating UK. And guess what? THIS board said he wouldn’t leave Memphis for Kentucky. This board has been constantly wrong about the power of this job and it’s doing the same sht again. And there are some really bad historians here too.

Kentucky is not a job every man can take. You’re in a fishbowl, you’re famous, and you have to win to elite levels. The best typically want that, it’s why Calipari wanted it. The difference is some aren’t that type of competitor, or they have some kind of ties where they just can’t do it. But they want it. This is the most coveted job in the sport. That’s not going to change at all, and just because some can’t take it or their wife doesn’t want to move their kids doesn’t mean what some of you think it means.

Oh, Donovan was an eyelash from taking this job also, he nearly took it over taking the NBA positions. But he wanted to coach pros at the end of the day. Donovan doesn’t go pro, he leaves his 2 time championship pedigree at Florida to come to UK.

All of this other stuff is nonsense.
More word salad by Morg; per usual inspired by actual events.
 
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TTTblue24

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I wanted pearl soon as cow left and nothing since has changed my mind, I know I’d love to have Hurley or the Iowa st guy but they’re in better jobs right now. Give me Bruce and I know some don’t like him but until we prove this program is “back” then the options are limited I’m afraid.
 
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wccat

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I should also add, Pope is in zero danger of going anywhere anytime soon, and I am glad
Let’s review:

Going against Pope:
0 recruits for next year
No GM
He spent $22 million on this team
Hasn’t sniffed winning the SEC
Losing at home many times to subpar teams

Going for Pope:
He’s a nice guy
Mutch Is the AD.
 

WhatTypeOfBlood

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I’ll take any elementary coach or high school coach in the state of Kentucky. Hell let the women’s coach slide over and coach both teams the rest of the season.
 
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MarkPftw

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A clown straight out of the circus would be better than that dope we currently have on the sidelines. Mark the Dope should be his new nickname.
 

Tri-Countycat

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Let’s review:

Going against Pope:
0 recruits for next year
No GM
He spent $22 million on this team
Hasn’t sniffed winning the SEC
Losing at home many times to subpar teams

Going for Pope:
He’s a nice guy
Mutch Is the AD.
Going for Pope: Associate AD is Mormon, Mitch doesn’t care as long as revenue and attendance is solid,
 

KYWC36

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Let’s review:

Going against Pope:
0 recruits for next year
No GM
He spent $22 million on this team
Hasn’t sniffed winning the SEC
Losing at home many times to subpar teams

Going for Pope:
He’s a nice guy
Mutch Is the AD.
So with all that being said, you’re gonna enjoy watching him coach next year huh?
 

notFromhere

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That does not mean he was a 3rd choice. No sir. You are wrong. And that’s something I know for a fact and it’s coming from guys that are way more into what happened than you. I have been told that story 10 damn times my friend. And they definitely aren’t wrong.

In the beginning they had no idea Pitino had any interests. When Newton got the call that Pitino wanted the job, he was dumbstruck. You’re making it out like Pitino was on a list of 3 that’s BS. I don’t think you’re making it up I just think you’re ill informed

And Olsen wanted the job and flirted multiple times yes. But his family was ingrained. It doesn’t matter that he turned it down what matters is that he wanted it so bad he continued to flirt. After that, Olsen stayed at Arizona for life and never looked around again. That’s what matters the guy wanted it. But some coaches have family reasons why they can’t leave but they WANT to. That’s the point. That SHOWED the strength of the program.

AGREED, but I don't know right now if that is still the strength it once was. We saw the shift in football IMMEDIATELY AWAY from the SEC and TOWARDS money. How do we know it hasn't already done that in basketball and we're just in denial about it?
 

notFromhere

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I'd be all for bringing Phil Jackson out of retirement to coach UK basketball, even if he has to do it from behind a walker or in a wheelchair. Just saying.
 
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notFromhere

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We can't get Hurley or Scott Drew. I don't THINK Billy Donovan wants to be in college. He would have come back to college already. I don't THINK Pearl wants to coach at this point in his life. Otherwise, he'd be coaching Auburn and they'd be better than they are. Everyone posts on here saying "You gotta make them say no." That's fine. They'll say no. So let's move the conversation along.

Beyond that, I think you could get a lot of really good coaches to say yes.

Dusty May
Oats.
Otzeleberger.
McCasland--worry he's a Texas guy
Byington

I think Lloyd probably wants to be out West. But I don't think it's out of the question.

I don't think Golden is completely out of the question either. He's from Phoenix, so no Florida connection. He strikes me as a big ego guy that wants to be the face of a blue blood program.

The Hurley problem was 1. He was already at location he preferred, and 2. He was already at a modern day blue blood.

If Florida wins another back to back title, IT TOO WILL BE A MODERN DAY BLUE-BLOOD
 
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UKGrad24

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A realistic name would be Jai Lucas. Big swing but he’s young, an incredible recruiter and has been a part of two of the best coaching trees in college basketball.
I just don’t think we could do that in the position we’re in now. We’ve dug a hole, we’re in serious droughts. We need a coach that’s going to win here at least to some kind of blue blood standard. We hire Lucas and it backfires? We’re talking looking at decades since any real success. Thats steering toward Indiana.

I think it wise for UK to look to an immediate proven coach or a bridge like Pearl. And it should be done ASAP. Oats has turned Alabama into a national threat and he’s a great recruiter and evaluator. He might have some consistency lows, but probably not that bad and when he wins, especially here, it would be decisive. If he does that at Alabama he’d probably kill it here. Their NIK isn’t even that great at Bama.

Guys like that need to be brought in. We need a Pitino, a calipari, a fixer. The boosters knew that last time. I’d be afraid Lucas would be another Pope type hire, a guess. Don’t think we can afford it right now. Maybe later. Obviously if it was tricky to get usual suspects right now, start looking down that road.
 

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A realistic name would be Jai Lucas. Big swing but he’s young, an incredible recruiter and has been a part of two of the best coaching trees in college basketball.
Will Wade is my dark horse. But he’d never get an opportunity to coach here. Can’t imagine he’s going to settle with just NC State.

I think his personality would fit at Kentucky very well.
 
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A realistic name would be Jai Lucas. Big swing but he’s young, an incredible recruiter and has been a part of two of the best coaching trees in college basketball.
A realistic name would be Jai Lucas. Big swing but he’s young, an incredible recruiter and has been a part of two of the best coaching trees in college basketball.
A realistic name would be Jai Lucas. Big swing but he’s young, an incredible recruiter and has been a part of two of the best coaching trees in college basketball.
Still learning on the job not enough experience left us for puke screw him
 

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Dusty May would be my top choice, but Michigan is one of the richest athletic programs out there. I'd say Oats, Otzelberger, Lloyd, and if they all say no, get Pearl for 3-5 and re-evaluate.
 
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If Pope is run off before his contract, we will get absolutely nobody.

Let’s not forget that a 13-12 B12 coach couldn’t get out of Lexington fast enough.

The only reason we got an unproven relatively new HC from BYU is because he played here.

Forget who might replace Pope. Who the heck would be coaching right now had he not been an alum with a special affinity for this place?!

I keep saying over and over again in all these next guy type threads that the days of top tier programs attracting the best coaches is over. Football and basketball.

Also, the landscape has changed so much and continues to change that it really isn’t a guarantee that a top tier coach at a top tier program is going to play out the way most think it would. At least not in the short time frame fans are expecting.
 
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Jeff Sykes

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this,,, right here is why I laugh at our fan base. He is not coming to UK, why would he? LOL
Because he is never going to win the big trophy at Gonzaga. Now, if he doesn't care about that, then I would just wish that he stayed there instead of at UK.
 

Runt#1969

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There's several coaches that could kill it here at Kentucky.

Dusty May, Oates, TJ OItzelberger might be one of the surprise choices if you ask me. The more I think about it though, ( and I guess Pitino is too old now to seriously bring him in ) ....

For me, bring in Bruce Pearl out of retirement and make a splash. Give him 3 - 5 years for coming back and get a damn GM, get rid of the JMI deal and for god's sake, get rid of Barney.

More than anything, we need Barney gone.

It's going to take a home run sure fire hire to get things back on track. Give Pope another year, but if he fails the "assignment", then we have to move on.
 

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We have no chance of getting Lloyd, May or Golden so not gonna list them. Here’s my list.


Nate Oats

TJ Otzelberger

Brad Underwood

Fred Hoiberg

Billy Donovan - how much longer could he possibly stay with the bulls?

Ben McCollum

Will Wade

Grant Mccasland - tech has major money and he’s a Texas guy. May not be gettable.

Bucky McMillan

Kevin Young

Josh Schertz

Ryan Odom

Jai Lucas - sleeper pick. Young and connected.

Bruce Pearl - wish he was 10 years younger and not a right wing nutjob.
 
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We have no chance of getting Lloyd, May or Golden so not gonna list them. Here’s my list.


Nate Oats

TJ Otzelberger

Brad Underwood

Fred Hoiberg

Billy Donovan - how much longer could he possibly stay with the bulls?

Ben McCollum

Will Wade

Grant Mccasland - tech has major money and he’s a Texas guy. May not be gettable.

Bucky McMillan

Kevin Young

Josh Schertz

Ryan Odom

Jai Lucas - sleeper pick. Young and connected.

Bruce Pearl - wish he was 10 years younger and not a right wing nutjob.
As a fellow “right wing nutjob” I can’t imagine caring if my coach was a member of Antifa if he could win titles and get to final fours. Perfect example of how people’s political opinions lead them to dehumanizing everyone they disagree with. Pearl’s entire description is “old” and “right wing nut job.” For the record, I’m with you on Jai Lucas — even though most of those names you listed were because you thought they were reasonable, I’d argue aren’t. We nearly hired Shaka Smart during the last hire. Fans always like to believe we know we will get this or that coach but things are much more difficult now than 16+ years ago. At least Lucas will get top recruits and he’s young. I’ve come to believe half the fanbase care more about where we finish in Rivals anyway.
 
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Because he is never going to win the big trophy at Gonzaga. Now, if he doesn't care about that, then I would just wish that he stayed there instead of at UK.
I know is going to shock a lot of people on here, but there is more to life than winning that trophy. He has built an elite program there, spent many years there so his life is there, they compete every year, the NBA loves his players. he is a legend there, he has USA and foreign pipelines, his life is far less stressful and irrational than it would be if he came here and he is 63 years old which is late for a 180 in life- just a few reason why he would not- oh and he is well paid and has excellent support from the area, fans and school, which varies from game to game at UK lol
 
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