Tommy Lloyd isn't leaving Arizona. That's his dream job. Not even worth a call.
First of all, Pitino was no 3rd choice. Not at all. It’s just that our AD at the time didn’t know he was even available and didn’t inquire. He never thought Pitino would have any interests and even almost talked him out of taking it. He was 100% not a 3rd choice. He likely would have been a 1st choice had Newton actually thought he was interested lol. Some of these stories are just nonsense. Newton has explained this many times and Pratt used to love talking about it. Pitino wanting this job was an absolute shocker to all involved. The first thing our AD said to Pitino when he realized he wanted the job, “why”? We were coming off probation and Pitino was one of the hottest younger names in basketball. And HE WANTED IT. LOL!!
Also, PJ wasn’t some scrub and Kentucky might have made him one of the best. He went on to the NBA in 93 and never left. That’s the real reason he turned UK down, he wanted to go to the pros. That was something he actually said years ago, he had a hard time leaving SH but wanted to coach in the NBA.
Olsen wanted this job. It’s probably the only Job he would have even considered. Some of you need to get this at some point. Being turned down doesn’t matter, how interested were they is what matters. Kentucky is so attractive it can get guys who would never leave where they are to take a hard look. Drew opting not to take it because of his wife didn’t mean sht when it comes to UK. The fact that he wanted the job after winning a title, and when he’s never even look at anyone else, is what matters.
“Calipari had a lesser program”. So what? He was out recruiting UK, making final fours over UK, and was winning well beyond UK, and beating UK. And guess what? THIS board said he wouldn’t leave Memphis for Kentucky. This board has been constantly wrong about the power of this job and it’s doing the same sht again. And there are some really bad historians here too.
Kentucky is not a job every man can take. You’re in a fishbowl, you’re famous, and you have to win to elite levels. The best typically want that, it’s why Calipari wanted it. The difference is some aren’t that type of competitor, or they have some kind of ties where they just can’t do it. But they want it. This is the most coveted job in the sport. That’s not going to change at all, and just because some can’t take it or their wife doesn’t want to move their kids doesn’t mean what some of you think it means.
Oh, Donovan was an eyelash from taking this job also, he nearly took it over taking the NBA positions. But he wanted to coach pros at the end of the day. Donovan doesn’t go pro, he leaves his 2 time championship pedigree at Florida to come to UK.
All of this other stuff is
More word salad by Morg; per usual inspired by actual events.First of all, Pitino was no 3rd choice. Not at all. It’s just that our AD at the time didn’t know he was even available and didn’t inquire. He never thought Pitino would have any interests and even almost talked him out of taking it. He was 100% not a 3rd choice. He likely would have been a 1st choice had Newton actually thought he was interested lol. Some of these stories are just nonsense. Newton has explained this many times and Pratt used to love talking about it. Pitino wanting this job was an absolute shocker to all involved. The first thing our AD said to Pitino when he realized he wanted the job, “why”? We were coming off probation and Pitino was one of the hottest younger names in basketball. And HE WANTED IT. LOL!!
Also, PJ wasn’t some scrub and Kentucky might have made him one of the best. He went on to the NBA in 93 and never left. That’s the real reason he turned UK down, he wanted to go to the pros. That was something he actually said years ago, he had a hard time leaving SH but wanted to coach in the NBA.
Olsen wanted this job. It’s probably the only Job he would have even considered. Some of you need to get this at some point. Being turned down doesn’t matter, how interested were they is what matters. Kentucky is so attractive it can get guys who would never leave where they are to take a hard look. Drew opting not to take it because of his wife didn’t mean sht when it comes to UK. The fact that he wanted the job after winning a title, and when he’s never even look at anyone else, is what matters.
“Calipari had a lesser program”. So what? He was out recruiting UK, making final fours over UK, and was winning well beyond UK, and beating UK. And guess what? THIS board said he wouldn’t leave Memphis for Kentucky. This board has been constantly wrong about the power of this job and it’s doing the same sht again. And there are some really bad historians here too.
Kentucky is not a job every man can take. You’re in a fishbowl, you’re famous, and you have to win to elite levels. The best typically want that, it’s why Calipari wanted it. The difference is some aren’t that type of competitor, or they have some kind of ties where they just can’t do it. But they want it. This is the most coveted job in the sport. That’s not going to change at all, and just because some can’t take it or their wife doesn’t want to move their kids doesn’t mean what some of you think it means.
Oh, Donovan was an eyelash from taking this job also, he nearly took it over taking the NBA positions. But he wanted to coach pros at the end of the day. Donovan doesn’t go pro, he leaves his 2 time championship pedigree at Florida to come to UK.
All of this other stuff is nonsense.
Let’s review:I should also add, Pope is in zero danger of going anywhere anytime soon, and I am glad
Going for Pope: Associate AD is Mormon, Mitch doesn’t care as long as revenue and attendance is solid,Let’s review:
Going against Pope:
0 recruits for next year
No GM
He spent $22 million on this team
Hasn’t sniffed winning the SEC
Losing at home many times to subpar teams
Going for Pope:
He’s a nice guy
Mutch Is the AD.
He'd likely go to the NBA if he's moving.I don't think Golden is completely out of the question either. He's from Phoenix, so no Florida connection. He strikes me as a big ego guy that wants to be the face of a blue blood program.
So with all that being said, you’re gonna enjoy watching him coach next year huh?Let’s review:
Going against Pope:
0 recruits for next year
No GM
He spent $22 million on this team
Hasn’t sniffed winning the SEC
Losing at home many times to subpar teams
Going for Pope:
He’s a nice guy
Mutch Is the AD.
That does not mean he was a 3rd choice. No sir. You are wrong. And that’s something I know for a fact and it’s coming from guys that are way more into what happened than you. I have been told that story 10 damn times my friend. And they definitely aren’t wrong.
In the beginning they had no idea Pitino had any interests. When Newton got the call that Pitino wanted the job, he was dumbstruck. You’re making it out like Pitino was on a list of 3 that’s BS. I don’t think you’re making it up I just think you’re ill informed
And Olsen wanted the job and flirted multiple times yes. But his family was ingrained. It doesn’t matter that he turned it down what matters is that he wanted it so bad he continued to flirt. After that, Olsen stayed at Arizona for life and never looked around again. That’s what matters the guy wanted it. But some coaches have family reasons why they can’t leave but they WANT to. That’s the point. That SHOWED the strength of the program.
We can't get Hurley or Scott Drew. I don't THINK Billy Donovan wants to be in college. He would have come back to college already. I don't THINK Pearl wants to coach at this point in his life. Otherwise, he'd be coaching Auburn and they'd be better than they are. Everyone posts on here saying "You gotta make them say no." That's fine. They'll say no. So let's move the conversation along.
Beyond that, I think you could get a lot of really good coaches to say yes.
Dusty May
Oats.
Otzeleberger.
McCasland--worry he's a Texas guy
Byington
I think Lloyd probably wants to be out West. But I don't think it's out of the question.
I don't think Golden is completely out of the question either. He's from Phoenix, so no Florida connection. He strikes me as a big ego guy that wants to be the face of a blue blood program.
The Hurley problem was 1. He was already at location he preferred, and 2. He was already at a modern day blue blood.
I just don’t think we could do that in the position we’re in now. We’ve dug a hole, we’re in serious droughts. We need a coach that’s going to win here at least to some kind of blue blood standard. We hire Lucas and it backfires? We’re talking looking at decades since any real success. Thats steering toward Indiana.A realistic name would be Jai Lucas. Big swing but he’s young, an incredible recruiter and has been a part of two of the best coaching trees in college basketball.
Will Wade is my dark horse. But he’d never get an opportunity to coach here. Can’t imagine he’s going to settle with just NC State.A realistic name would be Jai Lucas. Big swing but he’s young, an incredible recruiter and has been a part of two of the best coaching trees in college basketball.
A realistic name would be Jai Lucas. Big swing but he’s young, an incredible recruiter and has been a part of two of the best coaching trees in college basketball.
A realistic name would be Jai Lucas. Big swing but he’s young, an incredible recruiter and has been a part of two of the best coaching trees in college basketball.
Still learning on the job not enough experience left us for puke screw himA realistic name would be Jai Lucas. Big swing but he’s young, an incredible recruiter and has been a part of two of the best coaching trees in college basketball.
He will eventually coach at KansasWill Wade is my dark horse. But he’d never get an opportunity to coach here. Can’t imagine he’s going to settle with just NC State.
I think his personality would fit at Kentucky very well.
Because he is never going to win the big trophy at Gonzaga. Now, if he doesn't care about that, then I would just wish that he stayed there instead of at UK.this,,, right here is why I laugh at our fan base. He is not coming to UK, why would he? LOL
As a fellow “right wing nutjob” I can’t imagine caring if my coach was a member of Antifa if he could win titles and get to final fours. Perfect example of how people’s political opinions lead them to dehumanizing everyone they disagree with. Pearl’s entire description is “old” and “right wing nut job.” For the record, I’m with you on Jai Lucas — even though most of those names you listed were because you thought they were reasonable, I’d argue aren’t. We nearly hired Shaka Smart during the last hire. Fans always like to believe we know we will get this or that coach but things are much more difficult now than 16+ years ago. At least Lucas will get top recruits and he’s young. I’ve come to believe half the fanbase care more about where we finish in Rivals anyway.We have no chance of getting Lloyd, May or Golden so not gonna list them. Here’s my list.
Nate Oats
TJ Otzelberger
Brad Underwood
Fred Hoiberg
Billy Donovan - how much longer could he possibly stay with the bulls?
Ben McCollum
Will Wade
Grant Mccasland - tech has major money and he’s a Texas guy. May not be gettable.
Bucky McMillan
Kevin Young
Josh Schertz
Ryan Odom
Jai Lucas - sleeper pick. Young and connected.
Bruce Pearl - wish he was 10 years younger and not a right wing nutjob.
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| America East tournament (2018) America East regular season (2021) Atlantic 10 regular season (2025) Atlantic 10 tournament (2025) |
| Joe B. Hall Award (2017)[1] Hugh Durham Award (2018) America East Coach of the Year (2021) |
He could at least sell the fact he has won championships before, New York guy with moxy. I think he is exactly what we wanted Pope to be.I’ll take Josh Schertz over Jai Lucas if we’re gonna take a risk.
I know is going to shock a lot of people on here, but there is more to life than winning that trophy. He has built an elite program there, spent many years there so his life is there, they compete every year, the NBA loves his players. he is a legend there, he has USA and foreign pipelines, his life is far less stressful and irrational than it would be if he came here and he is 63 years old which is late for a 180 in life- just a few reason why he would not- oh and he is well paid and has excellent support from the area, fans and school, which varies from game to game at UK lolBecause he is never going to win the big trophy at Gonzaga. Now, if he doesn't care about that, then I would just wish that he stayed there instead of at UK.