Thoughts on the “new” BigTen post PAC12

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Any reflections on the moves adding the PAC10/12 teams to the BigTen as well as the earlier additions?

I suppose financially it’s been a boon to the BigTen expanding to left and right coasts in terms of media income stream even though to some extent travel coasts must be an increased burden financially and also impacting the athletes.

As an old timer and BT traditionalist I liked the original structure and have been dismayed at the dissolution of the PAC12 and its low-rent “return” as a “full” conference. Not thrilled with Rutgers and MD additions but fully understand the desire to tap into east coast fan viewership. Addition of the west coast teams is more solid- Oregon has been the standout in football but all four west coast teams are having a tough year in basketball to join the top tier.

The addition of the west coast teams seems to have further fueled the dominance of the BigTen over rival conferences like the SEC. I still prefer the size and geographical affinity of the old BigTen maybe with the addition of Nebby and PSU have added value. The current size of the BIgTen seems unwieldy but at least we aren’t in the spot Cal and Stanford are in. I really miss the BT-PAC10 rivalry represented by the Rose Bowl game. I think NU and the conference at large have benefited from BigTen expansion so far but with some of the BT programs really struggling (like Rutgers) I think expansion has introduced a new level of risk and instability.
 
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techtim72

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My sense of it is that the West Coast teams are more down about the move than the existing Big Ten teams who are taking it more or less in stride. More burden was placed on those teams in terms of losing traditional rivals and requiring more travel. I wonder if their recruiting might be hurt somewhat as local kids prefer schools that play more out West. I know when Maryland moved to the Big Ten there was a whole lot of fan resistance to leaving the ACC. Even to this day a lot of fans miss those rivalries.

With these huge leagues, I really don't worry about nor do I expect league championships. Mostly just looking for NU to be competitive and entertaining.
 

katatonic2

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I wonder if their recruiting might be hurt somewhat as local kids prefer schools that play more out West.

Oregon's recruiting hasn't skipped a beat and if anything, has only gotten stronger, and USC landed the no.1 class by being able to keep more of the top SoCal kids home who previously were going to dOSU, Michigan, Bama, UGA, LSU, etc.

The top recruits want to play in the best leagues against the best opponents.

WC recruits really weren't experiencing that, which is why so many were leaving for greener pastures.
 

CatManTrue

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Any reflections on the moves adding the PAC10/12 teams to the BigTen as well as the earlier additions?

I suppose financially it’s been a boon to the BigTen expanding to left and right coasts in terms of media income stream even though to some extent travel coasts must be an increased burden financially and also impacting the athletes.

As an old timer and BT traditionalist I liked the original structure and have been dismayed at the dissolution of the PAC12 and its low-rent “return” as a “full” conference. Not thrilled with Rutgers and MD additions but fully understand the desire to tap into east coast fan viewership. Addition of the west coast teams is more solid- Oregon has been the standout in football but all four west coast teams are having a tough year in basketball to join the top tier.

The addition of the west coast teams seems to have further fueled the dominance of the BigTen over rival conferences like the SEC. I still prefer the size and geographical affinity of the old BigTen maybe with the addition of Nebby and PSU have added value. The current size of the BIgTen seems unwieldy but at least we aren’t in the spot Cal and Stanford are in. I really miss the BT-PAC10 rivalry represented by the Rose Bowl game. I think NU and the conference at large have benefited from BigTen expansion so far but with some of the BT programs really struggling (like Rutgers) I think expansion has introduced a new level of risk and instability.
I (like many) predicted the Super Conference movement years ago.

And The Truth is that this new conference set up sucks on multiple levels.

I’m one of the few who is a fan of NIL (players deserve to get paid fair market value), fan of the transfer portal (the sit out rule was always BS!)… but I absolutely dislike the “new Big Ten”.

Or is it the “Big Eighteeen”? Such an elite collegiate conference yet we can’t do math 😂
 

Sheffielder

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Meh, it is what it is. No, I don't like rotating Wisconsin and Iowa off our schedules to make room for Washington and Oregon (or Rutgers and Maryland for that matter), but I get the economics of it...would love it, though, if 10-12 Midwest schools within 500-600 miles of each other could figure out a way to effectively monetize a league together...with maybe a scheduling agreement against a similar conference of schools...
 

AdamOnFirst

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In a vacuum, we all like it less. However, it secured a strong stranglehold on the sport by the Big Ten, which is very important for NU. Schools like Stanford, Wake, BC, etc. that aren't in a conference that won the game of thrones are really quite screwed. They aren't staying in whatever the final evolution of college football is. Northwestern and Vandy, on the other hand, are still sitting at the table.

This relates to why a quaint 40th best recruiting class isn't acceptable any more. We are among the two groups of teams who are more equal than the other animals.