OT: Deliver Me From Nowhere (Springsteen Movie)

DHajekRC1984

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My point - that if Bruce released the SAME song today it would be taken by many to be anti-GOP - was proven by your post. I didn’t get into any of what/where you took it to.
"When Born in the USA was released it was seen as pro-veteran, and a protest against the governmental support given to them"

And you're saying that TODAY this would insult Republicans ? That is like suggesting R's are not Pro-Vet and feel that they don't deserve support. Who do you think is behind Wounded Warriors, Tunnels to Towers, and and the Gary Sinise Foundation? Which Party fired the Head of the VA over Poor care for Vets and instituted Private Care Options.?

You need to pick a better example.
 

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"When Born in the USA was released it was seen as pro-veteran, and a protest against the governmental support given to them"

And you're saying that TODAY this would insult Republicans ? That is like suggesting R's are not Pro-Vet and feel that they don't deserve support. Who do you think is behind Wounded Warriors, Tunnels to Towers, and and the Gary Sinise Foundation? Which Party fired the Head of the VA over Poor care for Vets and instituted Private Care Options.?

You need to pick a better example.
I don’t think anyone would suggest that rank and file republicans aren’t pro veteran.

That said, when the undisputed “leader” of the party shows contempt for war heroes, wounded vets, and gold star families (which he has on many well documented occasions), it certainly clouds the issue for many.
 

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"When Born in the USA was released it was seen as pro-veteran, and a protest against the governmental support given to them"

And you're saying that TODAY this would insult Republicans ? That is like suggesting R's are not Pro-Vet and feel that they don't deserve support. Who do you think is behind Wounded Warriors, Tunnels to Towers, and and the Gary Sinise Foundation? Which Party fired the Head of the VA over Poor care for Vets and instituted Private Care Options.?

You need to pick a better example.
Republicans have always been pro vets...it is the leader, who really never identified as a republican, until it suited him, who does not support vets.
 

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If it is “political” to advocate for the marginalized and those on the bottom rungs Bruce has always been political. In his songs and in his life. But today that is perceived to be one-sidedness by many. When Born in the USA was released it was seen as pro-veteran, and a protest against the governmental support given to them. It wasn’t seen as an attack on one party. If it was released today it would be viewed by many to be anti-GOP, pro-Dem.
A lot of people didn't actually listen to that song. In particular, Republicans that wanted to use it in campaign ads.
 

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I agree with your first part. As to the second? Sorry, not even close. To suggest that the R's and conservatives don't have tremendous support for vets is absurd. It's not the songs per se, it's the campaigning, preaching and embarrassment from the stage now, and blind approach. Mr. No Kings I see now has a Center Named after him? How Trump-like lol.
Land of Hope and Dreams tour sounds great. Adding in the No Kings dig is his choice and I mine to reject.

(insert BossNJ laugh emoji here)
The Center was “officially” created in 2017, but was in the works long before that. It’s on the campus of Monmouth University, just blocks from where he wrote many songs. Hence the naming.
 
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You are one annoying maga douchebag!
well your commie ways are showing. why call me douchebag when I've never even responded to a thing you have said on this board? I understand your level of tardation in that you get triggered easily, that's on you for being weak. Facts hurt

Budget of 55mm and that is with a 23mm tax grant by the state of NJ.
made 22mm domestically, and about the same internationally

if you and the other commie mouth breathers don't get his politics turn a lot of people off, then you truly are tard level dumb or worse, wholly myopic in your outlook which makes you even more pathetic.
 
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If it is “political” to advocate for the marginalized and those on the bottom rungs Bruce has always been political. In his songs and in his life. But today that is perceived to be one-sidedness by many. When Born in the USA was released it was seen as pro-veteran, and a protest against the governmental support given to them. It wasn’t seen as an attack on one party. If it was released today it would be viewed by many to be anti-GOP, pro-Dem.
you know in an interview, he laughs at being called a singer for the working man since he never really held a job. I find that ironic
 

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That’s correct, but it won’t stop the usual suspects from b!tching and moaning because Bruce dares to oppose the wannabe dictator.

The more they whine, the more they confirm that they’re in a pathetic cult.
Nah, that's not the "because," at least for me.
And nope, not in any cult. I
I call balls and strikes.
Your premise that "everybody else is doing it" is flawed for the working man's hero.

 

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That’s correct, but it won’t stop the usual suspects from b!tching and moaning because Bruce dares to oppose the wannabe dictator.

The more they whine, the more they confirm that they’re in a pathetic cult.

When you say absurd stuff there will be a sarcastic laugh emoji.

And it is utterly laughable that the above is what you took from the post you responded to. Your reading comprehension truly sucks.
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anyone on the left decrying a dictator is showing how dumb they are. Especially so when the left is the party of censorship and dictating things. The left is a cult, a pretty ignorant and dumb one at that

Back on point, Buce sucks, outside of NJ, the movie did very poorly despite being shown in the most movie outlets/venues for the first 3 weeks. His politics hurt him, I mean he basically called half his fanbase trash. Anyone denying this is a fool. No other biopic crashed so hard in the past decade.
 
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Nah, that's not the "because," at least for me.
And nope, not in any cult. I
I call balls and strikes.
Your premise that "everybody else is doing it" is flawed for the working man's hero.

So again I ask- what’s the appropriate price? If you can’t answer that then your criticism isn’t serious
 

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I don’t think anyone would suggest that rank and file republicans aren’t pro veteran.

That said, when the undisputed “leader” of the party shows contempt for war heroes, wounded vets, and gold star families (which he has on many well documented occasions), it certainly clouds the issue for many.
well that was the suggestion I responded to. Not the other guy. I'll keep those comments off the board.
 
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The Center was “officially” created in 2017, but was in the works long before that. It’s on the campus of Monmouth University, just blocks from where he wrote many songs. Hence the naming.
It's quite alright. I get the difference between the two. Hopefully he kicked in a bit of cash for the effort (he probably did) and if he didn't that's his business. I'd certainly like a legacy like that myself .
 
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Not sure why he alienates half his fan base, but such is the climate now a days. They (both sides) kind of force you to pick, unfortunately. That being said, talented musician just not a big fan.

anyone see the Doors movie biopic w Val Kilmer years ago. That was excellent I thought.
 

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He goes to my gym, not well liked at all. He's not a good person despite what some want to think.

Interesting. I know several people that have interacted with him and found him to be quite nice... though one buddy dealt with both him and Patty and said she was a raving b-tch the first two times, then settled down.

Its also quite possible that people feel he's not a nice guy at the gym because he's there to work out and not take selfies, Much the same way many pro athletes and movie starts would prefer to be left alone when they are eating dinner or with their families.

Back to the movie though, just saw it last week. I wasn't the biggest fan of the movie. Just really dark (yeah, I know, it was a dark time in his life), and a bit awkward. The people just weren't believable other than Faye, who ironically was not a real person in his life but was a conglomerate of several women in his life.
 
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The people just weren't believable other than Faye, who ironically was not a real person in his life but was a conglomerate of several women in his life.
That's very interesting and explains why this woman was never really something heard about before. Knowing that now takes a bit out of my appreciation for it (the movie). If you can create a character like that then it just brings credibility into other things in it. I just mentioned this to my wife and she responded with the exact same comment lol. I think I'll stop reading this thread now.
 

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That's very interesting and explains why this woman was never really something heard about before. Knowing that now takes a bit out of my appreciation for it (the movie). If you can create a character like that then it just brings credibility into other things in it. I just mentioned this to my wife and she responded with the exact same comment lol. I think I'll stop reading this thread now.
It is a bit difficult to read isn't it? Really just wish it could stay on the original topic.. Or at least just away from politics.

When the movie first came out, I heard the buzz about the guy playing Bruce. Ehh... Just seemed forced. Had a discussion one night with a bunch of friends about the best portrayals, including appearance, and he didn't come up. Val Kilmer as Morrison, Ramie Malek as Freddy Mercury, Jamie Foxx as Ray Charles were the ones that stick out in my head as the best (at least in that discussion over several drinks)
 
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It is a bit difficult to read isn't it? Really just wish it could stay on the original topic.. Or at least just away from politics.

When the movie first came out, I heard the buzz about the guy playing Bruce. Ehh... Just seemed forced. Had a discussion one night with a bunch of friends about the best portrayals, including appearance, and he didn't come up. Val Kilmer as Morrison, Ramie Malek as Freddy Mercury, Jamie Foxx as Ray Charles were the ones that stick out in my head as the best (at least in that discussion over several drinks)
Val Kilmer as Morrison, Ramie Malek as Freddy Mercury were both brilliant. did not see the Ray Charles flic
 

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You are a lousy scorekeeper, and stop projecting your triggered feelings to me. I don't play by either side's playbook. You are an angry, triggered person.
Lol, you keep telling yourself that.

Mr. “I’m above the fray” is laughable
 

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GFY, lefty libby.
I hate both sides equally, but for "your side" that's not good enough. Have to swallow the whole playbook hook, line and sinker, or you are not in the club. Good luck with your miserable life. You are on ignore now.
Lol, says the guy who called me “triggered” 😂🤡🤡🤡🤡