At best. Probably even below averageSadly, we have average right now.
At best. Probably even below averageSadly, we have average right now.
Ferentz did that in his first 7 years as a head coach? Let me checkIn 7 years, Kirk finished in the Top 10, three times. Something Bo couldn't even do 1 time.
Pretty sure the Big10 didnt have conference divisions nor conference championship games in Kirk's first 10 years or so.
Nope...in his first 7 years as a HC he had 3 winning seasons and a top 10 finish.In 7 years, Kirk finished in the Top 10, three times. Something Bo couldn't even do 1 time.
Pretty sure the Big10 didnt have conference divisions nor conference championship games in Kirk's first 10 years or so.
Incredibly sad how apparent the apathy is even among the most rabid subset of our fanbase
Have never seen so little excitement/anticipation/enthusiasm for Nebraska Football in all my lifes a good point and didnt go unnoticed by me either. I hadn't blamed Ruhle but he is the leader and should hold accountability. Apathy has set hard. I took on a new project and when getting to know the owners of the place I didnt
Ill take 4 for any game to take my kids to their first. .....Just to give you an idea...I have access to 10-12 seats for each game each season. Nice seats too, with parking passes.
So far, for the upcoming season, ONLY the tickets for OSU are ALMOST gone and not even all of those are gone yet. 3 years ago, they would have all been spoken for by now.
Then you have to act in 2013 or wait until he fails in 2013.1) You can when your coach basically begs to be fired the year prior and when he acts like a complete fool on the sideline.
2) I agree, but no one thinks they're actually going to bring in someone worse than what they just let go.
3) Same response as #2.
Whose said that. I was told if we win 5 games we should be happy by the media people.I’d take Bo over Rhule but that’s a really low bar. If Bo level results are the best we’re hoping for I’d stop following.
The only thing that still makes NU football interesting is that pretty much everyone agrees Rhule will be fired if he has a losing year next year. I’d rather they keep firing all the losers and trying for better than settle with one of them and call it good enough.
I thought it was blow out losses, anger problems, and not beating enough ranked teams.I forgot the other argument against Bo by the crazies..."He won a lot of close games"
Which, ironically is now what a lot of the fans **** about with Rhule. "He wins those 4th quarter games!"
I guess you thought wrong.I thought it was blow out losses, anger problems, and not beating enough ranked teams.
subconsciously no coach wants to outshine Tom, especially while he is alive.. this is my opinion. Once Tom passes, Nebraska's return to greatness will be a lot easier from that standpoint. .02
Rhule is only good at 1 thing on this list. 1.It is shocking that Bo could not...
Recruit
Develop
Coach
Hire Good Coaches
Stop the run
Keep his cool
Love the fans
But still could average over 9 wins a year and make it to two or three conference championship games.
God, just imagine if he was good at anything?!?!?!
What has Bo done since he left Nebraska?The firing of BO was more complicated than that.
1. You can't fire him in a 9 win year. (If you were going to fire him you do it in 2013 where you can say he had lost control and threatened the AD to fire him.
2. You can't tell fans we got rid of a 9 win coach and replaced him with a much worse version. That's when you go all in with the Christ Peterson, Sweater vest, Someone with proven track records or have won champions.
3. In a job security thing it's really dumb to fire a winning coach as an AD even if you don't like him. You're not on the hot seat as an AD until you hire your guy, (or extend the current guy). Eichorst could have been here a lot longer if he just stayed away from Bo until the bottom fell out. We all would have grumbled but he would have been laughing his way to cashing his undeserved money.
You hit the nail on the head here. NU had a grand total of 2 players invited to the NFL combine this year. Iowa had about 9 invited. Spindler and Key were supposed to be 2nd round to 3rd round prospects prior to the season. They now are so far off the radar they probably will not even get UDFA offers. NU has done an incredibly poor job of player development that even schools like Montana are held in higher regard by NFL scouts. Poor schemes and lack of even a basic understanding of what it takes to build a program are in play here. The program has been on a slow decline since Bo left. Lavonte David, Burkhead, Prince Amukamara are some examples of guys we used to develop and that were ready for long NFL careers when they left Lincoln. We have a complete jughead for an AD and a coach who has no clue about what it takes to build a good B1G football program. Yes there is apathy in the fan base. Because anybody who has any sense of the financial situation at NU knows that we cannot and will not fork over 60 million to buy Matt out. And those donors who would have funded a more reasonable buyout still would not have donated due to a complete lack of faith in the administration to bring in a competent AD and HC. The situation is a mess. Rock bottom in my opinion was when Dannen unveiled the drawings and details of the Stadium Project on the day of the Iowa game, and with 60 top recruits in town. NU proceeds to get blown out by a very mediocre Iowa team. Talk about a bad look. There are some who are happy with a 19-19 result. They were happy with Riley and they like Matt. They have no concept of what football in Lincoln is supposed to look like or why guys like me are disgusted. They post predictions ( every year ) of 8 or nine wins only to see the program shite the bed again. Wash, rinse repeat.Nebraska is easily a bottom program in the B1G based on the last 11 years. It’s not even a debate.
- 17 total draft picks in 11 years (can increase in April), 5 of which were Pelini developed players.
- 30 1st-3rd All B1G team players in 11 years, 9 of which were Pelini developed players.
- 35-62 in B1G play the last 11 years, with winning records against only Maryland, Michigan State, Rutgers.
If Rhule was a better decision maker, he wouldn't really even be in a problem with 3 strong coordinators doing the actual development work.You hit the nail on the head here. NU had a grand total of 2 players invited to the NFL combine this year. Iowa had about 9 invited. Spindler and Key were supposed to be 2nd round to 3rd round prospects prior to the season. They now are so far off the radar they probably will not even get UDFA offers. NU has done an incredibly poor job of player development that even schools like Montana are held in higher regard by NFL scouts. Poor schemes and lack of even a basic understanding of what it takes to build a program are in play here. The program has been on a slow decline since Bo left. Lavonte David, Burkhead, Prince Amukamara are some examples of guys we used to develop and that were ready for long NFL careers when they left Lincoln. We have a complete jughead for an AD and a coach who has no clue about what it takes to build a good B1G football program. Yes there is apathy in the fan base. Because anybody who has any sense of the financial situation at NU knows that we cannot and will not fork over 60 million to buy Matt out. And those donors who would have funded a more reasonable buyout still would not have donated due to a complete lack of faith in the administration to bring in a competent AD and HC. The situation is a mess. Rock bottom in my opinion was when Dannen unveiled the drawings and details of the Stadium Project on the day of the Iowa game, and with 60 top recruits in town. NU proceeds to get blown out by a very mediocre Iowa team. Talk about a bad look. There are some who are happy with a 19-19 result. They were happy with Riley and they like Matt. They have no concept of what football in Lincoln is supposed to look like or why guys like me are disgusted. They post predictions ( every year ) of 8 or nine wins only to see the program shite the bed again. Wash, rinse repeat.
He is already starting to lose the media guys. Even Sipple has grown noticeably more critical. Carriker too. Everyone is tired of Rhule’s little act. Rhule’s cynical manipulation of the PSU situation, combined with another late season collapse and mediocre portal haul, have opened people’s eyes to what a total fraud he is.I think you are right.
Next, will be losing the sports media guys. Once you lose both, it is over.
Matt needs to beat 2 out of Oregon, OSU and Indiana this year.
I never listen to Carriker but I am sure the former players will turn on him faster than most of the media.He is already starting to lose the media guys. Even Sipple has grown noticeably more critical. Carriker too. Everyone is tired of Rhule’s little act. Rhule’s cynical manipulation of the PSU situation, combined with another late season collapse and mediocre portal haul, have opened people’s eyes to what a total fraud he is.
NU football is at a huge crossroads right now. We desperately need to fire this clown and hire a coach who knows his butt from a gun barrel.
LolWe desperately need to fire this clown and hire a coach who knows his butt from a gun barrel.
Low T got you down?I can’t speak for others. But this is the least excited I have been for a new Nebraska football season in my lifetime. Yet more coaches fired and new coaches hired. No new infusion of difference making talent. No clear identity on either offense or defense. Special teams coach gone. Very tough schedule ahead. Looking like a 4-8 season and a program on the decline with a lame duck coach we can’t afford to fire.
And yet the mystery of what our QBs will look like has me maybe more interested than if Raiola was still here. My expectations have been muted since BC got embarrassed by USC all those years ago. Now I’m just happy I get to watch football and I let the chips fall where they may. Football doesn’t affect my life.Just to give you an idea...I have access to 10-12 seats for each game each season. Nice seats too, with parking passes.
So far, for the upcoming season, ONLY the tickets for OSU are ALMOST gone and not even all of those are gone yet. 3 years ago, they would have all been spoken for by now.
I’m hopeful but pessimistic. Should be at least interesting to see how our new QB looks. LOTS of staff changes could change things for the better or worse.I think we are all optimistic. We all want them to win every game.
But we also sort of know what we have with Rhule. It is like an iowa fan thinking that "this is the year that ferentz have is all figure out"...you know...after 30 years.
Spindler and Key will get signed. Spindler’s surgery may have kept him from performing some of the combine tests. I doubt he could have done the bench for sure.You hit the nail on the head here. NU had a grand total of 2 players invited to the NFL combine this year. Iowa had about 9 invited. Spindler and Key were supposed to be 2nd round to 3rd round prospects prior to the season. They now are so far off the radar they probably will not even get UDFA offers. NU has done an incredibly poor job of player development that even schools like Montana are held in higher regard by NFL scouts. Poor schemes and lack of even a basic understanding of what it takes to build a program are in play here. The program has been on a slow decline since Bo left. Lavonte David, Burkhead, Prince Amukamara are some examples of guys we used to develop and that were ready for long NFL careers when they left Lincoln. We have a complete jughead for an AD and a coach who has no clue about what it takes to build a good B1G football program. Yes there is apathy in the fan base. Because anybody who has any sense of the financial situation at NU knows that we cannot and will not fork over 60 million to buy Matt out. And those donors who would have funded a more reasonable buyout still would not have donated due to a complete lack of faith in the administration to bring in a competent AD and HC. The situation is a mess. Rock bottom in my opinion was when Dannen unveiled the drawings and details of the Stadium Project on the day of the Iowa game, and with 60 top recruits in town. NU proceeds to get blown out by a very mediocre Iowa team. Talk about a bad look. There are some who are happy with a 19-19 result. They were happy with Riley and they like Matt. They have no concept of what football in Lincoln is supposed to look like or why guys like me are disgusted. They post predictions ( every year ) of 8 or nine wins only to see the program shite the bed again. Wash, rinse repeat.
Donovan Raiola being gone holds out some hope for future OL at least.You hit the nail on the head here. NU had a grand total of 2 players invited to the NFL combine this year. Iowa had about 9 invited. Spindler and Key were supposed to be 2nd round to 3rd round prospects prior to the season. They now are so far off the radar they probably will not even get UDFA offers. NU has done an incredibly poor job of player development that even schools like Montana are held in higher regard by NFL scouts. Poor schemes and lack of even a basic understanding of what it takes to build a program are in play here. The program has been on a slow decline since Bo left. Lavonte David, Burkhead, Prince Amukamara are some examples of guys we used to develop and that were ready for long NFL careers when they left Lincoln. We have a complete jughead for an AD and a coach who has no clue about what it takes to build a good B1G football program. Yes there is apathy in the fan base. Because anybody who has any sense of the financial situation at NU knows that we cannot and will not fork over 60 million to buy Matt out. And those donors who would have funded a more reasonable buyout still would not have donated due to a complete lack of faith in the administration to bring in a competent AD and HC. The situation is a mess. Rock bottom in my opinion was when Dannen unveiled the drawings and details of the Stadium Project on the day of the Iowa game, and with 60 top recruits in town. NU proceeds to get blown out by a very mediocre Iowa team. Talk about a bad look. There are some who are happy with a 19-19 result. They were happy with Riley and they like Matt. They have no concept of what football in Lincoln is supposed to look like or why guys like me are disgusted. They post predictions ( every year ) of 8 or nine wins only to see the program shite the bed again. Wash, rinse repeat.
How quick we forget Frosts last year. Talk about knowing the end was right around the corner. I agree the anticipation isn't there right now. Nothing to sell but the season for most. But I'd argue Scott's last year was worse to everyone except maybe Dingle who is always the last one to knowIncredibly sad how apparent the apathy is even among the most rabid subset of our fanbase
Have never seen so little excitement/anticipation/enthusiasm for Nebraska Football in all my life
Difference is the end isn’t right around the cornerHow quick we forget Frosts last year. Talk about knowing the end was right around the corner. I agree the anticipation isn't there right now. Nothing to sell but the season for most. But I'd argue Scott's last year was worse to everyone except maybe Dingle who is always the last one to know
Holla
Maybe...Difference is the end isn’t right around the corner
it will be long and drawn out
I would set the over/under at zero.I think you are right.
Next, will be losing the sports media guys. Once you lose both, it is over.
Matt needs to beat 2 out of Oregon, OSU and Indiana this year.
What if we win more games than we have in the last decade, at a time when there has been less hope and optimism at any point in the last decade?I guess I’m a optimist, I’m curious how the new transfers will work out, I think we will actually be improved because Dylan is gone, I want to see what the new defense will do will it be improved. If we go 4-8 then Rhule is probably gone and should be. But what if we win 8 games and beat a ranked team? fans are upset because of the last three games so am I the bowl game we shouldnt have be paired with utah , it didn’t help either team
I was just speaking about this topic today with my brother in law. Just near zero interest for this next season. Might be the first season since 1998 I don't attend a single game.Incredibly sad how apparent the apathy is even among the most rabid subset of our fanbase
Have never seen so little excitement/anticipation/enthusiasm for Nebraska Football in all my life
It's also that he scammed us for millions before we fire him.Is there even a single NU Football topic on the entire first page of the board right now?
it’s all politics and cheeseburgers
Forget the shoddy results on the field - Rhule has apparently taken away any semblance of hope from the Greatest Fans in College Football
it’s stunning
I see tom almost every weekend at kids sports events. His grandson or great-grandson is my son's age. He moves well but looks like 107 in the face.That man is gonna live to be 107. We got some more time to be mediocre
But as long as you don’t win 9+ games for your entire tenure and win 3 national titles, you won’t outshine him. Could we maybe get 2 playoff appearances before this decade runs out? We’d still be in the shadow and not the shine.
It's also that he scammed us for millions before we fire him.
I don't know, we were all pretty excited when we beat Akron 68-0.I would hope that this fan base would STFU on starts. We have been 5-1 or 5-2 to start the year like nearly every year of M.R. If they haven't learned by now they won't ever.
Unless we blow out the first 3 teams 70-0. Nobody should be excited.