Jennie B or Katie Abrahamson...

UpstreamHawkeye

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FWIW, no one is making that much on the Iowa MEN'S basketball team this year. If that young lady really is getting $1.5MM, or anything close to it, there was never a chance that she was coming to Iowa...unless she didn't care about the financial side. God love the Hawks, but we are nowhere near the upper crust of the NIL providers.
And to think USC pulled in the #1 recruits in three classes on the cheap, compared to this.
 

KurtWarner

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Someone out of the stratosphere talent wise like Clark was you can get by with the rest of the team just being okay. Without someone like her it'll take 3 maybe 4 really good players. That's why not getting Bjorn and harping and maybe Lewis sucks. With McKenna, chit chat, ava and deal (hoping she looks a lot different next year) the future still looks very bright. Maybe elite 8 and possibly with some luck a final four
 
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And to all the defenders of JJ...what are you seeing that you like?
I think she's doing quite well with the current roster that she has. On paper this team should not be as good as last year's team with how young it is, and the loss of Lucy and Sydney. 2 of the 6 guards expected to get significant minutes are out for the season (plus Chit Chat and Kylie both also missed multiple games.) Despite this, they've already matched last year's conference win total and they've been ranked in the top 25 essentially all season.
 

Jonesy5960

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One last time...not using fouls at end of quarters when there's only 3 team fouls, poor usage of TOs, lineup combos when KF is dreadful (most of time), one game she runs Mallegni out there/next game runs Levin out there, doesn't appear she's accepting any input from assts, never "working the refs", and..oh well, you get an idea of just a few of the issues.
Great assts don't automatically make good HCs.
Excuse away!!!!
Your question leads me to believe you aren't watching the games.
I question some of Jan's decisions. I also question some of Ben's, but I'm a numbers/results kind of guy. The team is 19-5/ 10-3, in 4th place and ranked 15th. They are currently projected as a 3 seed in the tournament. Preseason ESPN had them as the 5th best Big10 team and ranked 20th. AP and Coaches polls had them at 21 and 23.

How much do this year's results so far deviate from where you thought they would be as of the end of last year? Be honest because they are currently ahead of every preseason prognostication that was out there at the start of this season. If she's so far in over her head, then how do you explain their relative overperformance this year? Perhaps even more importantly, where do you think this team would be had Jan not snagged CCW in the portal last offseason?
 

Anon1750875978

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I question some of Jan's decisions. I also question some of Ben's, but I'm a numbers/results kind of guy. The team is 19-5/ 10-3, in 4th place and ranked 15th. They are currently projected as a 3 seed in the tournament. Preseason ESPN had them as the 5th best Big10 team and ranked 20th. AP and Coaches polls had them at 21 and 23.

How much do this year's results so far deviate from where you thought they would be as of the end of last year? Be honest because they are currently ahead of every preseason prognostication that was out there at the start of this season. If she's so far in over her head, then how do you explain their relative overperformance this year? Perhaps even more importantly, where do you think this team would be had Jan not snagged CCW in the portal last offseason?
I realize JJ can't control the in season roster chaos.

My beef is primarily to starting Deal on the West Coast trip and the Xs and Os during games.
When I watch games and see the other team hitting a "3" at the end of a quarter when Iowa has three team fouls...I literally scream at the TV.
Oh, and KF playing the last four games, getting 30+ minutes and has a grand total of 11 points in those four games.
 

Jonesy5960

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I realize JJ can't control the in season roster chaos.

My beef is primarily to starting Deal on the West Coast trip and the Xs and Os during games.
When I watch games and see the other team hitting a "3" at the end of a quarter when Iowa has three team fouls...I literally scream at the TV.
Oh, and KF playing the last four games, getting 30+ minutes and has a grand total of 11 points in those four games.
I wasn't in favor of starting Deal either, but to Jan's credit, she wasn't averse to changing course and correcting the lineup. IMO, that's unusual for a head coach in any sport.

Pretty much every coach on the planet values championship experience, and that's what KF has. I too wish she'd cut back on her minutes, but again, these seem like nits, and at a HC level I'm most interested in results, and overall the team has performed well this year. Personnel wise she hit a home run with CCW which you have to give her sole credit for. Otherwise you'd have been looking at a starting guard lineup of KF, McCabe, and Deal this year which would have been disastrous.
 
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Anon1750875978

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Hate to break it to some of you but deal starting didn't lose the two west coast games. And the outcome would have been the same if Stremlow started. That's the least thing I actually blame Jan for
Agree, but throwing Levin and Mallegni out there, neither with significant minutes this year, was definitely a head scratcher.
Concur?
 
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Hawk14

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I guess I’m in the “idiot boat” with Jan. I thought starting Deal was the right move. I thought she could bring offensive punch to the team after losing McCabe. That didn’t work out the way either of us thought. I’m not critical of her giving a few minutes to Levin or Mallengi either. We were not playing well and perhaps she was sending a message long term. I’m not sure of her thoughts but I don’t think it cost us those games. I’m still supporting our coaching staff. I guess I’m saying I could have made the same mistakes therefore in hindsight I would have been in over my head too.
 

KurtWarner

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I guess I’m in the “idiot boat” with Jan. I thought starting Deal was the right move. I thought she could bring offensive punch to the team after losing McCabe. That didn’t work out the way either of us thought. I’m not critical of her giving a few minutes to Levin or Mallengi either. We were not playing well and perhaps she was sending a message long term. I’m not sure of her thoughts but I don’t think it cost us those games. I’m still supporting our coaching staff. I guess I’m saying I could have made the same mistakes therefore in hindsight I would have been in over my head too.
Yup I would've started deal too. Especially after the osu game. And I don't blame her for putting teagan or callie in either. Nothing else was working
 

citizenHawk1

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The team had probably their most productive minutes against USC in the second quarter with Teagan on the court with Chat, Strem, Journey, and Ava. Obviously would have been better had Teagan's shots gone in, but overall not a failed experiment.

*USC's London Jones was 1-3 for 7 pts last night vs. Indiana. She went 7-11 for 17pts. vs. Iowa. That just wasn't Iowa's night.
 

Jonesy5960

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Someone out of the stratosphere talent wise like Clark was you can get by with the rest of the team just being okay. Without someone like her it'll take 3 maybe 4 really good players. That's why not getting Bjorn and harping and maybe Lewis sucks. With McKenna, chit chat, ava and deal (hoping she looks a lot different next year) the future still looks very bright. Maybe elite 8 and possibly with some luck a final four
Remove Clark from those teams and they couldn't beat the team that is playing for Iowa today.
 

Jonesy5960

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Are you at all concerned that the team is basically down to only six effective players?
Of course. Losing McCabe was a huge hit in terms of perimeter depth, but if Deal can get her head right, she can provide some much needed depth.. Journey is a rising star, but I don't think Layla is a functional Big10 player today.
 
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The Big Z

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Getting past the first weekend appears to be setting a pretty low bar.

But great for you if that's what you see.
The advantage of hosting that first weekend is significant.
They've played themselves into a 4/5 right now and with Michigan on the upcoming schedule, the outlook might be less bright.
I'll be happy to admit I was wrong if they finish top 3 at conference.
Oh so you'd be happy in a conference with 18 teams and most of them with quite a few more resources than us finish in the top 3? Well isn't that special.
 
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Anon1750875978

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Oh so you'd be happy in a conference with 18 teams and most of them with quite a few more resources than us finish in the top 3? Well isn't that special.
Name all those "most of them with more resources" or STFU.
"Most", theoretically, is >9.

TIA
This should be entertaining. 🤣
But I’m anticipating you to be MIA.
 
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Anon1750875978

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What is your definition of "effective"?
More assists than turnovers, more points than personal fouls...you know, the obvious stuff.

I realize you're just arguing because you can't really dispute my observations.
That's ok, tho.

From a coaching standpoint...when the other team has the ball with 20 seconds before the end of a quarter and you have two team fouls to use...USE THE FOULS rather then the other team hitting a 3 at the buzzer!😆😆
BTW: Being obtuse isn't really considered a positive attribute.
 

The Big Z

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Name all those "most of them with more resources" or STFU.
"Most", theoretically, is >9.

TIA
This should be entertaining. 🤣
But I’m anticipating you to be MIA.
Really? Ok. UCLA, USC, Ohio St, Michigan, Michigan St, Illinois, Indiana, Oregon, Maryland off the top of my head. Very very few high end D1 players in the state, which means obviously recruiting mostly out of state and trying to get girls to come to middle of nowhere Iowa. Zero African American population in the state which also makes recruiting harder.
 

Anon1750875978

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Really? Ok. UCLA, USC, Ohio St, Michigan, Michigan St, Illinois, Indiana, Oregon, Maryland off the top of my head. Very very few high end D1 players in the state, which means obviously recruiting mostly out of state and trying to get girls to come to middle of nowhere Iowa. Zero African American population in the state which also makes recruiting harder.
That list is hilarious...MSU, Illinois, and Indiana have greater resources for WBB??? Surprised you didn't sneak Rutgers and NW in there.
There was info published last season that Iowa WBB was around 3/4 in $$$.
Naming 9 random schools like you listed proves you're not wanting a serious discussion.

Keep making up shiit. It's embarrassing.
 
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The Big Z

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That list is hilarious...MSU, Illinois, and Indiana have greater resources for WBB??? Surprised you didn't sneak Rutgers and NW in there.
There was info published last season that Iowa WBB was around 3/4 in $$$.
Naming 9 random schools like you listed proves you're not wanting a serious discussion.

Keep making up shiit. It's embarrassing.
You’ve done nothing but discredit Jensen the entire season. Every loss, all 5 of them (along with only winning 20 games) the sky is falling, Jensen can’t coach, our roster construction sucks, etc. When in reality we’re a top 10-15 team in the country. We have zero bad losses. And we have multiple quality wins. Now I know when we lose our next game (which we will) you’ll come on here and rag on Stuelke, Deal and Jan. Every once in awhile you could actually give credit to the other teams for outplaying us or sometimes you just don’t have it.
 

Anon1750875978

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You’ve done nothing but discredit Jensen the entire season. Every loss, all 5 of them (along with only winning 20 games) the sky is falling, Jensen can’t coach, our roster construction sucks, etc. When in reality we’re a top 10-15 team in the country. We have zero bad losses. And we have multiple quality wins. Now I know when we lose our next game (which we will) you’ll come on here and rag on Stuelke, Deal and Jan. Every once in awhile you could actually give credit to the other teams for outplaying us or sometimes you just don’t have it.
I accept your concession.

That wasn't so hard, was it?
 
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The Big Z

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I accept your concession.

That wasn't so hard, was it?
Send me the link on what we spent on women’s bball vs other schools and I’ll be glad to take a seat. Everything else I posted about us being a tough place to recruit to stands. Which makes what we’ve built over the years more impressive.
 

LloydBraun

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More assists than turnovers, more points than personal fouls...you know, the obvious stuff.

I realize you're just arguing because you can't really dispute my observations.
That's ok, tho.

From a coaching standpoint...when the other team has the ball with 20 seconds before the end of a quarter and you have two team fouls to use...USE THE FOULS rather then the other team hitting a 3 at the buzzer!😆😆
BTW: Being obtuse isn't really considered a positive attribute.
Do you think players should always take fouls to give at the end of Quarter 1? There are 3 quarters left and any player might get into subsequent foul trouble that would cause problems later in the game. We certainly have players who are prone to foul trouble. I agree there are times to take a foul to give but you seem to think it is an absolute decision.
 

WDSMHawk

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From a coaching standpoint...when the other team has the ball with 20 seconds before the end of a quarter and you have two team fouls to use...USE THE FOULS rather then the other team hitting a 3 at the buzzer!😆😆

Considering how thin this team is, how ****** officiating in college basketball is, and how foul prone some of our "6 effective" players are. I understand Jan not wanting to give away fouls at the end of quarters.
 
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More assists than turnovers, more points than personal fouls...you know, the obvious stuff.

I realize you're just arguing because you can't really dispute my observations.
That's ok, tho.

From a coaching standpoint...when the other team has the ball with 20 seconds before the end of a quarter and you have two team fouls to use...USE THE FOULS rather then the other team hitting a 3 at the buzzer!😆😆
BTW: Being obtuse isn't really considered a positive attribute.

The obvious stuff is all? You really ought not to direct the word obtuse to anyone and never use that word in the same sentence with positive attitude. I don't associate you with those two words.
 

Anon1750875978

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I've finally realized that I'm trying to change the minds of a handful of fans who are defending someone that managed to piss away a 17 point lead in less than three minutes vs Maryland!

Maybe that's a bridge too far.

There are certain strategies that apply to all levels of basketball...from 3rd graders to middle school to high school to club ball to college.
Carry on, fanboys.
 
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I've finally realized that I'm trying to change the minds of a handful of fans who are defending someone that managed to piss away a 17 point lead in less than three minutes vs Maryland!

Maybe that's a bridge too far.

There are certain strategies that apply to all levels of basketball...from 3rd graders to middle school to high school to club ball to college.
Carry on, fanboys.
Who won that game? I'll hang up and listen.
 

Hawkangler

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II disagree we are winning in spite of some really bad coaching.....Jan is an amazing assistant coach, but she is much of the nice coach and not getting on the girls at all...Jan atm still just isn't a good head coach right now and maybe never will be.....Iowa keeps winning in spite of her but then things get tough Jan has zero answers to turn it around.
What makes you an expert on coaching? Watching games from your couch in Mom and Dad's basement? Please stop, every post you make shows how clueless you are.
 

Hawkangler

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I assume this post is directed at me, so I'm just going to point out the obvious...
1. Awareness of "fouls to give" at the end of quarters.
2. Headscratching lineup combinations.
3. Time out usage.
4. Working the officials, or lack thereof.
5. Too much loyalty to certain seniors.

These are the most noticeable to me.
A fan doesn't need to have coached college level sports to recognize things.
My last post today because I realize I'm not changing anyone's mind.😁
Thank you, less is more.