OT: New Jersey residents express broad-based positive opinions of Rutgers University
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It's a top 50 school in the country and plays sports in the Big Ten. If they don't, they are idiots.
They group Ocean and Monmouth together.
My feel is that Ocean's favorability rating of RU is the far higher part of the average and Monmouth far lower.
My feel is that Ocean's favorability rating of RU is the far higher part of the average and Monmouth far lower.
Would not be surprised. There are many private school enclaves in Monmouth that serve as conveyor belts for students to attend out-of-state private schools.
I’m not sure either… it probably has something to do with your ignorance being bliss. Sleep well!
The Philly metro area in South Jersey think highly of Rutgers while the hicks from the part of South Jersey that might as well be Arkansas have mixed feelings on it. Sounds about right. RU-NB has more weight in South Jersey publics since going there is almost like going away for school. Mount Laurel/Cherry Hill is like an hour away so it's like going away for school without going away for school. Far enough away so you don't have to worry about your parents barging in on you unannounced but close enough to go home and get a home cooked meal and do laundry on weekends if you want to.
The biggest thing Rutgers needs to do is get rid of it's draconian rules about alum kids. It's just so stupid. If you want to build lasting, generational relationships with families, and all that comes with it, you give those kids preferential treatment. The Harvard's of the world can send out all of the propaganda they want but they all do it. Anyone really believe Michigan isn't letting in kids of alums? The schools are massive. You can accomplish all goals.
Yeah legacy alums do need to be given preferential treatment. Each class is like 12K to 15K students. 200 kids who are let in because they are legacies aren't going to make or break classes.
Really is just so counter intuitive. I know of more than few examples of this with the latest winner being Villanova. I am sure they are very happy with the donation that have followed. Simply should never happen.
Students who have alumni parents are given preference. I’ve heard this directly and from
people with ties to admissions.
No survey needed. Ticket sales revenue is the best indicator.
Pike is doing a nice job. Ticket sales have increased every season except the Covid non-season. Schiano has some explaining to do - why are 2.0 ticket sales revenue coming in below Flood and Ash?
I've heard the exact opposite from a bunch in the admissions department and other departments/schools.
That is really dumb on RUs part of they have tha stance in legacies. If so, I can see why alumni would be turned off and as expected would close their wallets to RU as well
No stance on legacy. It’s not a plus or a minus to the applicant. If you are a 7 figure donor, it might be different.
Will also add that it’s not just Rutgers. Even private schools are doing the same. Know kids that are either double or triple legacy to ND and Cornell that are beyond qualified that didn’t get in. Some say it’s due to affirmative action going away.
The Fav by Region chart on right is missing the % for Sussex/Warren.. Someone missed the review edit before releasing lol.
I noticed that too. Sussex and Warren counties are included in the Garden Core figure along with Atlantic, Cape May, Cumberland, and Salem. Few Rutgers New Brunswick students, only about 5%, come from these six counties.
Here is where the survey respondents live:
This is 100% false (can speak from personal experience) historically, however sounds like the new president has a different view of this and could see a shift in legacy admits going forward. It certainly does impact donations. I used to be a donor, but given the experience I had w/Rutgers, my donations now follow my kids to their schools.
This would be the biggest positive change in Rutgers in their history. So many wonder why Alumni don't give back like other schools...it is because they do nothing to make you feel like family after you graduate.
definitely not the case and I say this as someone who was adjunct in the graduate school of Business for 8yrs. I have spoken to the admissions team on numerous occasions, most recently last year, and told the exact opposite. They will 'note' it but it carries no weight
nor while at the school
my oldest is at Purdue and they go out of their way to create familial ties. very impressive approach and communications and with my youngest, they've already invited him to tour the school, speak to department persons etc. with only other legacy families. We are heading out next month although I think he's UF/Miami bound.
there are studies that demonstrate that the more kids, more generations that go to an institution, the level of giving is higher independent of standard college costs.
I live, work and socialize almost exclusively in Ocean/Monmouth and have done so for the last 25 years.
My son (and his friends) went through the college application process last year.
My daughter is doing this now.
I see way more RU flags, block Rs, tees in Ocean than Monmouth, especially in the Toms River / Seaside area.
The parents I talk to in Ocean are happy their kids got in to RU and are packing their bags to go.
The Monmouth parents I talk to seem way more interested in Syracuse, BC, etc.
How about you ?
Well at least we are going in the right direction :
Conference affiliation check
Endowment emphasis check
Paper the State with Block R check
Engage second generation - Lets get this started next
So figuring the average SAT right now is 1370 IIRC, there's probably a sliding scale. Like, if you have 1200 and your parents are 7 figure donors, sure, but if you have 1100 and they give $50 when they get an envelope, no.
And knowing our fans it is almost definitely the latter complaining.
Having grown up in Monmouth County and spending time there still, I agree 100%.
The Shop Rite line mentality of "look how much I spend on this" has its roots in Brooklyn and Staten Island. Those people move to Monmouth. Maybe it's going to start changing with Netflix and there will be a crowd more in line with North Jersey where you have more alumni and people from other states and countries that find that a weird mentality. I bet if you looked at the southern school obsession and the Cult obsession before it (which has died significantly), the numbers in Monmouth would be 1/21.
Ocean is going to have more first generation college students, thus less of that mentality. Maybe you have a few people in the retirement communities listening to 101.5 mad about what they perceive on spending. But financially probably looks closer to Delaware Valley and areas north.
Def not the case (in general....always exceptions I guess). My oldest daughter, had all the grades & scores, etc. I have given 7 figures cumulatively to Rutgers and it did no good (and the powers that be knew she was applying because I made those calls). She got into a number of schools higher ranked and more selective than Rutgers, but the left hand simply does not talk to the right hand at Rutgers. Oldest is at UT Austin business school now and they actively recruited her younger sister to quote "create a family legacy" and my younger one is following her there, as well as my donations. Tore me up inside a little as I realized I was just a money tree Rutgers shook when it needed something, but I am also glad it happened because it made me realize I was in a dysfunctional relationship, so I got out of it. I don't comment on too many posts, so apologize for the rant, but this topic touched a personal nerve...
amen! move is in right direction 100% Rutgers just need to have a university wide approach to fostering this. Let's hope Tate is pushing this (I believe he is but early on)
not following this
Rutgers does not look at your financial contributions to academics or athletics when you apply. They do look at if you need financial aid or not but not sure how that is being factored in
Monmouth county is top 5 wealthiest in the state with very little separation between 1 and 5. not sure your analogy fits. I think it's the opposite where NJ, due to income levels, can generally afford to send their kids out of state with little to no financial aid.
An alums kid is more valuable to the school than another kid who happens to be of a certain skin color.
My wife has her undergrad and grad degree from the SC. The lengths that school goes to ingratiate you into the fold is incredible. It's why people that graduate from there expect to give back when they graduate, and do. It's a completely different mindset.
If there is one non-Ivy school that knows how to treat their legacy alums, it's USC. Hell how many children of celeb alums attend there? Will Ferrell regularly DJs his son's frat parties.
I don't take it like that. I believe he's intimating the approach by the admissions office and he's correct there. Rutgers has gone to great lengths to diversify the student population forgoing a lot of common sense in the process. We shy away from these discussion too much. But probably not the thread for it.
For the record all, I hired two Rutgers grads into my IB space and my team is known as the 'chop shop' hahaha. Does get tough working UT, ND, and the like during football season though. We need more alums to hire and promote RU grads