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Van Der Beek died today from colorectal cancer. Colon cancer took my Mom 3 1/2 years ago even though she had the regular "every 10 years" scopes.

I have to go every 5 years because of that.

Some colon cancers, such as the one my mom died from...can form in 8 years but 10 years is usually safe.

Regardless, get your colonoscopies folks!
 

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Just read this. Lost a close friend 2 months ago to colon cancer at 41 years old. Two young daughters and a wife. I read Van Der Beek had six children.

Just an awful disease that is not only becoming more prevalent, but it has also become more aggressive and harder to fend off in recent years.

I'm 43 and will take one as soon as I can at 45, but it's nerve-racking to have to wait when you see people younger than that dying pretty regularly. I would be interested in knowing how often they actually catch it with the colonoscopies, and how much do regularly-scheduled scopes increase your likelihood of beating it?
 

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Just read this. Lost a close friend 2 months ago to colon cancer at 41 years old. Two young daughters and a wife. I read Van Der Beek had six children.

Just an awful disease that is not only becoming more prevalent, but it has also become more aggressive and harder to fend off in recent years.

I'm 43 and will take one as soon as I can at 45, but it's nerve-racking to have to wait when you see people younger than that dying pretty regularly. I would be interested in knowing how often they actually catch it with the colonoscopies, and how much do regularly-scheduled scopes increase your likelihood of beating it?

I was told by multiple doctors that as long as I go every 5 years I have basically zero percent chance of colon cancer.

10 years has been the golden rule for many years. However, some polyps can form, grow, become cancerous, and metastasize in approximately 7-8 years. That is what happened with my Mom. Her previous colonoscopy was crystal clear and she was coming up 1 year from being due for her next one when they caught her cancer accidentally when she had a CT scan for a shoulder she was about to have surgery on. The CT caught part of a lung and the lung showed nodules which is a tell tale sign of cancer. Couple of weeks later she was diagnosed with Stage 4 colon cancer.

My question was obliviously why is 10 years the golden rule when it can happen in 7-8 years. The answer is obvious....insurance companies don't want to pay for colonoscopies less than 10 years apart except for high risk patients (like me now). The cost-benefit analysis says they don't lose money on those that are in the minority who contract the disease in less than 10 years versus lowering the "preventative care" timeline. Its ********. Had my mom had a colonoscopy at 8 years, she's probably living today. If she had it at the 6 or 7 year point, she probably never even has cancer...just some polyps.
 
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Sad news. He was my age. One of my high school classmates has been battling colon cancer recently too.
 

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I was told by multiple doctors that as long as I go every 5 years I have basically zero percent chance of colon cancer.

10 years has been the golden rule for many years. However, some polyps can form, grow, become cancerous, and metastasize in approximately 7-8 years. That is what happened with my Mom. Her previous colonoscopy was crystal clear and she was coming up 1 year from being due for her next one when they caught her cancer accidentally when she had a CT scan for a shoulder she was about to have surgery on. The CT caught part of a lung and the lung showed nodules which is a tell tale sign of cancer. Couple of weeks later she was diagnosed with Stage 4 colon cancer.

My question was obliviously why is 10 years the golden rule when it can happen in 7-8 years. The answer is obvious....insurance companies don't want to pay for colonoscopies less than 10 years apart except for high risk patients (like me now). The cost-benefit analysis says they don't lose money on those that are in the minority who contract the disease in less than 10 years versus lowering the "preventative care" timeline. Its ********. Had my mom had a colonoscopy at 8 years, she's probably living today. If she had it at the 6 or 7 year point, she probably never even has cancer...just some polyps.

I have heard that it's relatively easy to get a Doctor to authorize you for more frequent scopes based on pre-existing conditions or family history, but I obviously haven't had to go that route yet, but I absolutely will before I go ten years. Hopefully advancements will be made in the at-home kits as well to make them viable alternatives in between scopes.
 
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I have heard that it's relatively easy to get a Doctor to authorize you for more frequent scopes based on pre-existing conditions or family history, but I obviously haven't had to go that route yet, but I absolutely will before I go ten years. Hopefully advancements will be made in the at-home kits as well to make them viable alternatives in between scopes.
We could almost eradicate colon cancer with shorter intervals between colonoscopies. As I remember, 5 year survival rate for Stage 1 is well over 90% and Stage 2 was....if I remember correctly....something like 85%. But when colon cancer is allowed to metastasize it becomes a killer because it just keeps coming back.

And it adapts to treatment as well. As chemo kills it, the cancer learns and modifies itself to be more and more resistant.

Its a disease that kills far too many.
 
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Van Der Beek died today from colorectal cancer. Colon cancer took my Mom 3 1/2 years ago even though she had the regular "every 10 years" scopes.

I have to go every 5 years because of that.

Some colon cancers, such as the one my mom died from...can form in 8 years but 10 years is usually safe.

Regardless, get your colonoscopies folks!
Sorry to hear about your Mom. Took my dad as well. I have a colonoscopy every 3 years.
 
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I'm going to take a second and share a quick anecdote both because it was somewhat humorous at the time, and as a manner of showing all of the ways doctors try to treat colon cancer. Apologies for the length:

My mom had an immediate surgery scheduled just a couple weeks after her diagnosis. The surgeon that performed the surgery was rather grim when he met with my dad and I. After surgery, she was transferred to an Oncologist and started chemo. The doctor she got was incredible and happened to be the head of the entire cancer center, associate dean of the medical school....very well known in medical circles throughout the country, etc etc.

She responded very well to chemo during her first year. So much so that her oncologist suggested she may be a candidate for a procedure called a Hi-Pec. This was literally invented at Baptist Hospital back around 2000 and their surgeons went throughout the country over the next decade plus teaching the procedure to other research centers. It is an extremely difficult surgery for both the surgical team and the patient. Effectively, they cut the patients abdomen wide open...cut out anything cancerous they can see...close the patient and insert a tube through which a heated chemo concentrate is literally pumped directly into the abdomen. Once they have done that, the surgical team spend hours literally rocking the patients body on the surgical bed. They are literally "sloshing" hot chemo around the entirety of the abdomen. The theory being that the chemo is so potent that it can kill individual cancer cells on contact. After doing that, they open the patient back up to remove all of the chemo they can before finally finishing the surgery. Surgery will last anywhere from 8 to 14 hours. IIRC, Mom's took 11 or 12 hours. It actually has a cure rate of about 50 percent. They only do it in limited cases with patients that responded very well initially.

The day her Oncologist suggested it to her he called her surgeon while we were all in the room and had him on speakerphone. Her surgeon did not know he was on speakerphone. The Oncologist gave him his thoughts and the surgeon responded with "I don't want to put her through that. I've seen inside of her already. I've seen all of the cancer she had." Fair enough I guess. But her Oncologist was not happy with that response and suggested that she was a great candidate. There was some hemming and hawing by the surgeon when her Oncologist had had enough and said:

"Last time I checked, I'm the head of this cancer center and also your boss. I've seen how she responded. I've explained how difficult this is. She is willing to do it. I believe we have a chance to cure her. And as your boss, I suggest that you're next response be 'I'll get her on the surgery schedule'." There was a moment of silence and then a "OK" from the surgeon.

It was a very serious moment and the surgeon was right to have concerns....but all of myself, my mom, and my dad had a bit of a chuckle when that call was over.
 
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I was told by multiple doctors that as long as I go every 5 years I have basically zero percent chance of colon cancer.

10 years has been the golden rule for many years. However, some polyps can form, grow, become cancerous, and metastasize in approximately 7-8 years. That is what happened with my Mom. Her previous colonoscopy was crystal clear and she was coming up 1 year from being due for her next one when they caught her cancer accidentally when she had a CT scan for a shoulder she was about to have surgery on. The CT caught part of a lung and the lung showed nodules which is a tell tale sign of cancer. Couple of weeks later she was diagnosed with Stage 4 colon cancer.

My question was obliviously why is 10 years the golden rule when it can happen in 7-8 years. The answer is obvious....insurance companies don't want to pay for colonoscopies less than 10 years apart except for high risk patients (like me now). The cost-benefit analysis says they don't lose money on those that are in the minority who contract the disease in less than 10 years versus lowering the "preventative care" timeline. Its ********. Had my mom had a colonoscopy at 8 years, she's probably living today. If she had it at the 6 or 7 year point, she probably never even has cancer...just some polyps.
Sorry to hear about your mom, as well as James. Cancer sucks. Colon cancer is present on my wife's side of the family. In addition to the 10-year window threshold, plenty of people run into the screening vs. diagnosis issue, which can change the amount of the procedure by thousands of dollars.
 

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There are theories out there that the proliferation of energy drinks the last couple decades have led to the increase in colon cancer in younger people. I try very hard to keep my teens from drinking energy drinks as a result.
I turn 50 next week and have my 3rd colonoscopy scheduled for next month. Had my first one in 2005 because I developed ulcerative colitis. Went back to same GI doc at 45 and he will perform next month’s as well.
I have a hiatal hernia so they perform an upper endoscopy each time as well to check out my esophagus and stomach. I always make sure to confirm they are doing the upper exam before the lower exam before I go under, lol.
 

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Saw this morning that a gofundme page had been set up to help his wife keep their house and raise their children. It said that the illness and fighting it left them very close to broke. Just goes to show how economically devastating a serious illness can be. And, we seem to think those in the entertainment industry are all set for life. A big misconception.
 
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Saw this morning that a gofundme page had been set up to help his wife keep their house and raise their children. It said that the illness and fighting it left them very close to broke. Just goes to show how economically devastating a serious illness can be. And, we seem to think those in the entertainment industry are all set for life. A big misconception.
Wonder what type of health insurance they have? I think it is also possible that they spent a decent amount of money on treatments that are more accessible to people of means.
I guess it’s just hard to tell, but I feel like those with more money can keep spending it on higher end and/or experimental treatments that you or I could not even attempt to afford in an effort to either find a cure or extend their lives longer than we could.