Bad Bunny - Good idea or bad

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I assume you mean the FCC.

Do recall since the Janet Jackson situation, this whole event has a delay to it and the network has the ability to dump the broadcast at any time.

This means that his use of expletives in Spanish were something the network was prepared for. They were likely confident the FCC wouldnt act, as it falls under the "contemporary community standards test" IE if the average household cant understand the foul language, its very hard for the FCC to argue the language was offensive to the general public.

That said I do think its hypocritical of the network to allow that vulgarity in another language. The language wouldnt offend me; but it is a double standard. Im just explaining why the FCC allowed it.
So the Spanish speaking children aren't important when it comes to this because they aren't the majority? Stange stance for a left leaning poster.

Rep. Fine from Florida sent a complaint to the FCC seeking to fine the NFL, NBC and El Conejito Malo. We will see if they act.
 
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They also should not have needed to turn it on though...It was not forced viewing.
The expectation is that there wouldn't be f bombs and explicit details of sexual intercourse broadcast during the Super Bowl. I don't see that activity when watch Sunday Night Football each week, so why should I expect to watch and hear it when I watch the Super Bowl?
 
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So the Spanish speaking children aren't important when it comes to this because they aren't the majority? Stange stance for a left leaning poster.

Rep. Fine from Florida sent a complaint to the FCC seeking to fine the NFL, NBC and El Conejito Malo. We will see if they act.
That...literally isn't even remotely close to what I said just now.
 

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It is more about hypocrisy of each side. One mentioning the lyrics from Kid Rock from 20 years ago and it being countered by myself showing the lyrics "sung" by Bad Bunny at the Super Bowl.
Has Bad Bunny sang about having a penchant for wanting to have sex with underage women?
 

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This thread really does show everything wrong with the US right now.

In the aftermath of the Super Bowl, there is a bunch of grown men on a message board arguing about who watched the halftime show, and who had bigger numbers. And yes, I participated in it a bit. So, I’m at fault, too.

But if you can’t see how stupid this is then you are 100% part of the problem.

This culture war ******** is so dumb. It solves nothing, and it makes it so that you can’t watch anything anymore without it being political.

I know most of you on here are boomers or close to it, but some of you need to grow up.

That’s all I’ll say before the inevitable thread lock.
It is indeed utterly idiotic and I'm having the time of my life. It helps to accept that for several years, I have not been part of the coveted advertising demographic. We would see a stringy haired, jort wearing Kid Rock at the halftime, or someone of his ilk, if they were able to sell as much soap as Bad Bunny.
 
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That...literally isn't even remotely close to what I said just now.
Well you defending the FCC stance stating that if the average household cant understand the foul language, its very hard for the FCC to argue the language was offensive to the general public.

So the Spanish speaking population and their children are irrelevant. Not enough people knew to be offended so they should be ignored.
 

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And Kid Rock isnt being performative?

Do we really believe that Kid Rock of all people should be the type of individual that is left to lead faith based performances?

I am not Christian, but I respect the hell out of many of them. They deserve better representation than Kid Rock.
Kid Rock is a fake Christian and appeals to same.
 
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Has Bad Bunny sang about having a penchant for wanting to have sex with underage women?
I don't know, I don't listen to all of his lyrics. I do know he sings about having sex with married women and performing acts that I would construe as sexual assault and borderline rape.
 

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Well you defending the FCC stance stating that if the average household cant understand the foul language, its very hard for the FCC to argue the language was offensive to the general public.

So the Spanish speaking population and their children are irrelevant. Not enough people knew to be offended so they should be ignored.
I gave you the FCCs reasoning. Not my own. I even clarified that I personally find it a double standard.

So again. How was that comment relevant to what I said?
 

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The expectation is that there wouldn't be f bombs and explicit details of sexual intercourse broadcast during the Super Bowl. I don't see that activity when watch Sunday Night Football each week, so why should I expect to watch and hear it when I watch the Super Bowl?
Got it, sexual and sex related things should be censored. No matter who says them.

I am okay with that!
 
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Foolish comment.
A good deal of Christianity is fake. Prosperity gospel ministers, youth pastors that molest kids, those that support (and sometimes help craft) laws that fundamentalist politicians in Africa enact to make homosexuality a criminal offense punishable by death. Large swaths of American Christianity are nothing more than an offshoot of right-wing politics. Kid Rock purloining a bit of it is a rather minor offense, all things considered.
 
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A good deal of Christianity is fake. Prosperity gospel ministers, youth pastors that molest kids, those that support (and sometimes help craft) laws that fundamentalist politicians in Africa enact to make homosexuality a criminal offense punishable by death. Large swaths of American Christianity are nothing more than an offshoot of right-wing politics. Kid Rock purloining a bit of it is a rather minor offense, all things considered.
Still foolish
 
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A good deal of Christianity is fake. Prosperity gospel ministers, youth pastors that molest kids, those that support (and sometimes help craft) laws that fundamentalist politicians in Africa enact to make homosexuality a criminal offense punishable by death. Large swaths of American Christianity are nothing more than an offshoot of right-wing politics. Kid Rock purloining a bit of it is a rather minor offense, all things considered.
You don't know anything about Bob Ritchie. Stay in your liberal left lane full of pedo Dems.
 
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A good deal of Christianity is fake. Prosperity gospel ministers, youth pastors that molest kids, those that support (and sometimes help craft) laws that fundamentalist politicians in Africa enact to make homosexuality a criminal offense punishable by death. Large swaths of American Christianity are nothing more than an offshoot of right-wing politics. Kid Rock purloining a bit of it is a rather minor offense, all things considered.
I don't personally find any man made faith logical - but you aren't going to convince people to go against something as fundamentally important to them as their perceived salvation with this kind of rhetoric.
 

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I don't personally find any man made faith logical - but you aren't going to convince people to go against something as fundamentally important to them as their perceived salvation with this kind of rhetoric.
I'm not particularly interested in convincing people of anything on this board. There are plenty of things that are foolish. Seeing someone like Joel Osteen buck rake on video utilizing the slick veneer of prosperity gospel and thinking he is a Christian is indeed foolish.
 

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I'm not particularly interested in convincing people of anything on this board. There are plenty of things that are foolish. Seeing someone like Joel Osteen buck rake on video utilizing the slick veneer of prosperity gospel and thinking he is a Christian is indeed foolish.
I agree. I think people like Joel are sick and take advantage of peoples faith for their own financial gain. He's a disgusting human being. No argument there.

But his followers are not inherently bad. Many of them are elderly, and are trying to get right with God. To them - this is the singular building block of their world view. It is sacred to them. So the blinders do unfortunately make them susceptible to wolves. But you should be angry at the wolf. Not the flock it's consuming.
 

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People, especially super nuts (you know who you are) think being a "christian" means you are this perfect person that does nothing wrong.

Guess what, we drink, we gamble (a lot and we suck at it), we swear, we **** without trying to make a baby, we cheat, we have thoughts we should not have. You might not do ALL those things but you do a lot of them.

We are normal people that are just like everyone else.

It is like when someone graduates from Harvard...guess what, they will still make some mistakes in life, they might misspell something or not know a math problem...that is normal
 
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I agree. I think people like Joel are sick and take advantage of peoples faith for their own financial gain. He's a disgusting human being. No argument there.

But his followers are not inherently bad. Many of them are elderly, and are trying to get right with God. To them - this is the singular building block of their world view. It is sacred to them. So the blinders do unfortunately make them susceptible to wolves. But you should be angry at the wolf. Not the flock it's consuming.
Not angry at the flock, but those in the fake Christian set are as aware of the psychology of the flock as we are, and use that knowledge to their advantage. Convince Grandma that Heaven awaits if she sends 100 bucks a week, and then she skimps on her anti-stroke meds. If Jesus does indeed await, his first question to Grandma should be I love you, but how in the hell did you utterly miss the point of my message?
 

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Seems Radical Right media's best response to their debacle with Kid Rock would be to stop discussing it so people will forget about it quicker.
No matter how Republicans spin this, it didn't have the viewership they were hoping for.

The clips of the Trump administration "viewing party" watching Bad Bunny is priceless.
 

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Not angry at the flock, but those in the fake Christian set are as aware of the psychology of the flock as we are, and use that knowledge to their advantage. Convince Grandma that Heaven awaits if she sends 100 bucks a week, and then she skimps on her anti-stroke meds. If Jesus does indeed await, his first question to Grandma should be I love you, but how in the hell did you utterly miss the point of my message?
Thats judgement that a Christian God, according to their faith - would pass on Joel. Not Grandma. Her naivety isnt a sin. Joel's predatory nature however, is.
 

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To the non believers who like to point out humans flaws for a reason not to believe or discredit the message, i'm always curious who they approve of? Who isn't a fake Christian...genuinely curious who you approve of spreading the gospel? Because I feel like we're all really flawed, but if there's somebody who meets your unrealistic standard, plz share.
 
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If you are a non believer, why would you care if someone is a fake Christian? If you don't want to believe don't believe.
 
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Not angry at the flock, but those in the fake Christian set are as aware of the psychology of the flock as we are, and use that knowledge to their advantage. Convince Grandma that Heaven awaits if she sends 100 bucks a week, and then she skimps on her anti-stroke meds. If Jesus does indeed await, his first question to Grandma should be I love you, but how in the hell did you utterly miss the point of my message?
Better to send that money to the government so that we can house, feed and clothe the illegal aliens.
 

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If you are a non believer, why would you care if someone is a fake Christian? If you don't want to believe don't believe.
Because they still want to set the standard for everything. Even if it's something they don't believe or won't partake in.
 

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Thats judgement that a Christian God, according to their faith - would pass on Joel. Not Grandma. Her naivety isnt a sin. Joel's predatory nature however, is.
Jesus isn't passing judgment on the old lady, just wondering what she was thinking, cause he never said anything about forking over dough to a rich preacher.
 

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If you are a non believer, why would you care if someone is a fake Christian? If you don't want to believe don't believe.
I'm a questioner that thinks Jesus was a profound human whose words can guide both the faithful and the faithless. I can question his divinity and yet think he was an obviously important figure in human history. Right now I am learning about what Jesus said about hypocrites (he wasn't a fan).
 

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Watching non believers trash all things God makes me think i'm watching the demon inside them get really uncomfortable.
 
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I'm a questioner that thinks Jesus was a profound human whose words can guide both the faithful and the faithless. I can question his divinity and yet think he was an obviously important figure in human history. Right now I am learning about what Jesus said about hypocrites (he wasn't a fan).
So would that apply to you believing no one can tell a woman what to do with their body. But how a person chooses to worship or what a person does with their money or how they make their money is of your concern?
 

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I don't know, I don't listen to all of his lyrics. I do know he sings about having sex with married women and performing acts that I would construe as sexual assault and borderline rape.
I’ve seen some Bad Bunny lyrics that would make Kid Rock and Diddy blush. No idea if they made it into the halftime show.
 

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I'm a questioner that thinks Jesus was a profound human whose words can guide both the faithful and the faithless. I can question his divinity and yet think he was an obviously important figure in human history. Right now I am learning about what Jesus said about hypocrites (he wasn't a fan).
Jesus was hardest on the religious leaders of the time calling them a brood of vipers, white washed tombs, and the blind leading the blind to name a few examples.