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WVU86

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Well, you know we have to pay for saving the CA red legged frog that was going to go extinct if they hadn’t shut down the irrigation of the San Joaquin Valley.
 
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17-14

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Chart looks different when you focus in on 2020 to now. Also, some major shifts in political climate in that same timeframe. People are feeling the effects of poor legislation. I lived a little over 10 years in Cali, both of my kids were born there. It’s not always been the way it is now.
Yes, the population dipped by a few hundred thousand during the pandemic and is now trending back above the 2020 numbers.
 

WVU86

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I lived in the garden spot of Fresno in the mid 70’s for 3.5 of my early, formative years (7th-10th grades). I thought even Fresno was pretty cool back then. You couldn’t pay me to live there now.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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I lived in the garden spot of Fresno in the mid 70’s for 3.5 of my early, formative years (7th-10th grades). I thought even Fresno was pretty cool back then. You couldn’t pay me to live there now.
Most of California is amazing to be honest. The LA basin is a hellscape, but outside of that, and the politics, it’s a pretty amazing place.
 

Airport

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Yes, the population dipped by a few hundred thousand during the pandemic and is now trending back above the 2020 numbers.
More Americans left California between 2023 and 2024 than any other state across the country, according to new data released by the Census Bureau.

The Golden State lost a total of 239,575 residents to other states, the largest net domestic migration loss in the country over the past year. New York, another blue bastion in the country, saw the second-highest loss, losing a total of 120,917 residents between 2023 and 2024.

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Newsweek magazine. Other publication says the losses are being backfilled by migrants. I'm sure that they are all earning their own way. This is why the illegals were encouraged to come in.
 
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bornaneer

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Most of California is amazing to be honest. The LA basin is a hellscape, but outside of that, and the politics, it’s a pretty amazing place.
I did a lot of business with people in CA and have traveled all over the state....really liked the people and the state.
Many people may not believe this...but I also did a lot of business in NYC and really liked the people I dealt with....no bullsh*t and told it like it was.
 
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WVUALLEN

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Best part of California is San Diego. Other than that it should pretty much be pushed into the Pacific ocean.
 
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I did a lot of business with people in CA and have traveled all over the state....really liked the people and the state.
Many people may not believe this...but I also did a lot of business in NYC and really liked the people I dealt with....no bullsh*t and told it like it was.
It's not the people you deal with on a limited bases that is the problem.
 
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More Americans left California between 2023 and 2024 than any other state across the country, according to new data released by the Census Bureau.

The Golden State lost a total of 239,575 residents to other states, the largest net domestic migration loss in the country over the past year. New York, another blue bastion in the country, saw the second-highest loss, losing a total of 120,917 residents between 2023 and 2024.
Again...yes, there was a dip. That's not in dispute. The last couple years the population has gone back up.

By percentage of the overall population (39.5 million), neither the losses nor the gains are that dramatic. West Virginia, for comparison, lost a significantly higher percentage of its population from 2020-2024 (1.2%).
 

Airport

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Again...yes, there was a dip. That's not in dispute. The last couple years the population has gone back up.

By percentage of the overall population (39.5 million), neither the losses nor the gains are that dramatic. West Virginia, for comparison, lost a significantly higher percentage of the population from 2020-2024 (1.2%).
Saw that too but if you are replacing tax paying residents with welfare receiving illegals it's a big loss. And still keeping their congressional seats which is a travesty. Zuckerberg is possibly buying a huge piece of property in Indian Creek in Florida as are others if the 5% wealth tax goes through. Others will follow as it becomes a business decision.
 
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I don't care how much money someone has. Nobody wants to work for free let alone make billions for the State of California and the NFL.. Do you think that's okay?
To the latter part of the first sentence: no, but I think there's 0% chance that Darnold actually paid any of that tax himself (the team or league will have certainly paid it) and this entire thing is just some rage bait sound bite on a radio show to drum up people's outrage over a giant nothing burger.

hook, line, sinker. story of modern media, get people angry so they get a bunch of engagement/clicks/ad rev lol
 

Airport

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That's an incredibly low bar to clear since I'm agnostic. :LOL:

idk I don't pay attention to any california ****, i'm in WV. Tf I care what they do in california
My apologies, I thought the way you commented you were living in Calif.
 

WVUtotheBig12

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I don't care how much money someone has. Nobody wants to work for free let alone make billions for the State of California and the NFL.. Do you think that's okay?
That’s what I’m saying. You’d rather have the NFL and California get the money? The NFL is what it is because of guys like Sam Darnold. 125 million viewers didn’t tune in to listen to Roger Goodall.
 
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It’s not true that he lost money I don’t think. He got cali taxed on his bonus and salary while there 7 days as I understand it he still probably netted 400-500k for the week. I wonder if wash state hits the same stuff. Crazy unreasonable either way.
 
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It’s not true that he lost money I don’t think. He got cali taxed on his bonus and salary while there 7 days as I understand it he still probably netted 400-500k for the week. I wonder if wash state hits the same stuff. Crazy unreasonable either way.
That’s not what the guy was saying. His bonus was $180,000 for winning. By stating there for 7 days, this allowed Calif to tax his entire salary which abligated him to pay taxes on the entire salary. If he had only been there a shorter period of time they would only be able to tax his bonus.
 

hooks

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That’s not what the guy was saying. His bonus was $180,000 for winning. By stating there for 7 days, this allowed Calif to tax his entire salary which abligated him to pay taxes on the entire salary. If he had only been there a shorter period of time they would only be able to tax his bonus.
Yeah I know what he’s saying I don’t think it’s accurate that a state could levy a full years taxes on 7 or 8 days of work salary in said state. It can be prorated as I understand it. I could be wrong but I’ve dealt with this issue in other states and us territories. They were saying his overall tax liability exceeded his bonus that may be accurate but ignores the 700k or so of other income. I think.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Yeah I know what he’s saying I don’t think it’s accurate that a state could levy a full years taxes on 7 or 8 days of work salary in said state. It can be prorated as I understand it. I could be wrong but I’ve dealt with this issue in other states and us territories. They were saying his overall tax liability exceeded his bonus that may be accurate but ignores the 700k or so of other income. I think.
No.

His bonus is taxed.

His salary is taxed for the week.

His annual salary taxed for the week, plus the tax paid on the bonus, was enough to wipe out the bonus, +
 
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If Zuckerberg leaves California because of a billionaire tax, just further proves what a piece of **** he is. It is an amount of money that would not make any significant difference in his lifestyle but could help millions of Americans if used properly. If California didn't send it's taxes to the federal government, it would create a massive fiscal crisis for America. California taxing the way they do is good for AMERICA.
https://usafacts.org/articles/which-states-contribute-the-most-and-least-to-federal-revenue/
 

coopwvu08

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I wouldn't take a good hard dump in Cali. But if I absolutely had to, I'd do it on the sidewalk, rob Best Buy for $949 worth of goodies, and skin *** out of there.
Read what you just wrote and tell me that Cali is not the most American thing ever
 

DvlDog4WVU

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If Zuckerberg leaves California because of a billionaire tax, just further proves what a piece of **** he is. It is an amount of money that would not make any significant difference in his lifestyle but could help millions of Americans if used properly. If California didn't send it's taxes to the federal government, it would create a massive fiscal crisis for America. California taxing the way they do is good for AMERICA.
https://usafacts.org/articles/which-states-contribute-the-most-and-least-to-federal-revenue/
I’m curious, is there a defined amount of income amount for where you believe it becomes an individual’s required responsibility to begin providing and taking responsibility for random unconnected individuals?

Is there any individual accountability you place on people below that threshold to meet minimum standards of effort to qualify for wealthy benevolence? Are there disqualifying factors?

Who do you believe is ultimately responsible for establishing the guidelines of compelled philanthropic service? And how much is enough compelled service? Is it a dollar figure or an outcome?

Has Govt, especially in California proven to be an acceptable steward of these services and produced the appropriate outcomes you’d require and expect? Any thoughts on why some of the known issues needing addressed have gotten worse despite an increase in services provided?
 

Hatchet1959

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If Zuckerberg leaves California because of a billionaire tax, just further proves what a piece of **** he is. It is an amount of money that would not make any significant difference in his lifestyle but could help millions of Americans if used properly. If California didn't send it's taxes to the federal government, it would create a massive fiscal crisis for America. California taxing the way they do is good for AMERICA.
https://usafacts.org/articles/which-states-contribute-the-most-and-least-to-federal-revenue/
Why does anyone think it’s a good idea to tax someone’s wealth th give to the government, that amazes me. The government is hear for the people not the other way around . when the government gets more money they spend more money the cycle never stops. Waist fraud and abuse are rampant within our government and you think it a good idea to tax others. why not require the government to live on a lesser life style
 

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Boo hoo the poor babies right? Won’t get that 7th Lambo… Meanwhile I pay a higher tax rate than they do and making much less.
Just like you and many others thought Trump didn’t and when Madcow got his return he paid a higher rate than than Obama did. It is very doubtful you pay a higher rate than any billionaire who makes money not from capital gains like Buffett.
 

Airport

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If Zuckerberg leaves California because of a billionaire tax, just further proves what a piece of **** he is. It is an amount of money that would not make any significant difference in his lifestyle but could help millions of Americans if used properly. If California didn't send it's taxes to the federal government, it would create a massive fiscal crisis for America. California taxing the way they do is good for AMERICA.
https://usafacts.org/articles/which-states-contribute-the-most-and-least-to-federal-revenue/
If the state goes ahead and does it, they know many will leave. Very stupid, IMHO.