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I was traveling and didn’t watch any of the Super Bowl . . . surely those weren’t the “lyrics?” Please tell me you are joking. Please.
These are actual lyrics:

“Young ladies, young ladies, I like ’em underage/ See, some say that’s statutory/ But I say it’s mandatory.” Kid Rock
 

KingWard

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Yeah, Bad Bunny is only the most streamed entertainer in the World. It's not my taste, but I understand why he was chosen. Everything is not for you.
As long as a person is free to ingest as he/she chooses, simply do so and go on from there. I chose not to ingest any of it. I had the most recent Chicago Fire episode recorded. I ingested that.
 

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These are actual lyrics:

“Young ladies, young ladies, I like ’em underage/ See, some say that’s statutory/ But I say it’s mandatory.” Kid Rock
Oh, now I’m really depressed. And people actually listen to that???
 

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As long as a person is free to ingest as he/she chooses, simply do so and go on from there. I chose not to ingest any of it. I had the most recent Chicago Fire episode recorded. I ingested that.
True. But it’s still sad even if I don’t watch it.
 

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The last truly great performance by a musician at the SB was Whitney Houston's rendition of the National Anthem in 1991.

Epic. And there's not a close second.
 
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True. But it’s still sad even if I don’t watch it.
I demurred on personal belief grounds also, but also due to my personal entertainment preferences. That was all the statement I was and am inclined to make.

No one listens to indignant objection anymore. My only thought is that the Super Bowl should be shooting for halftime entertainment of closer to universal appeal. There must be a sufficient inventory of that from which to choose.
 
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I demurred on personal belief grounds also, but also due to my personal entertainment preferences. That was all the statement I was and am inclined to make.

No one listens to indignant objection anymore. My only thought is that the Super Bowl should be shooting for halftime entertainment of closer to universal appeal. There must be a sufficient inventory of that from which to choose.

We live in a shock culture now. Obviously, Goodell and his cronies chose Bad Bunny solely b/c they knew it would stir a lot of controversy and controversy brings eyeballs.
 

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The last truly great performance by a musician at the SB was Whitney Houston's rendition of the National Anthem in 1991.

Epic. And there's not a close second.
That was an amazing performance, especially given that we were in a hot war in Iraq.
Prince's halftime show was absolutely phenomenal. U2 was great and was the perfect halftime show for that moment in time.
 

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Agree. Music is nice but if I were in Mexico. Big middle finger to America by the most American event of the year. I don’t know what country I live in now. Certainly not the America I miss from the 80’s and 90’s.
Follow your Heart and Move there.
 

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America has given up! Everyone is more important than Americans these days! This country is headed to **** in a hurry and the dumbest of them all will be right back in the voting booth come November and put the dumbacrats back in charge because it makes perfect sense to run back to the idiots that got us in trouble to begin with. Might as well be talking to the wall though!
Dumbacrats🤣
 

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A halftime show that I can't even understand in my own country. Freaking pathetic!
You might be a dumbass.. lol. First off, the show isn't for you. Second off, it was basically a love letter to America... Third, Puerto Rico is a defacto 51st state. Either they are Americans or they aren't.. You might either be a flaming racist or just a moron.
 

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I'll add my 3 cents worth (inflation, you know). As a white, southern-born good ole boy, these Hispanic shows have no appeal to me. I am a kid of the Beatles, Carpenters, Chicago, Three Dog Night, etc music. And I was no fan of the George Lopez tv show. Then again, I have never been a fan of the all black tv shows (though I did like "The Jeffersons:; but that was a Norman Lear show; so that was different, to me). I watched a little of the Bad Bunny performance, with emphasis on "little". I agree with Trump that some of the dancing was inappropriate for young children. Certainly the NFL should have done better to prevent that dancing since a lot of children would be watching. I also agree with Trump that the lyrics were not easily understood. That said, I sometimes don't understand the lyrics of white performers. Of course, that could be because of poor hearing on my part (though I passed a hearing test this past summer, amazingly enough). America is becoming more diverse by the day. And so, I realize there is a market out there for Hispanic, black and other non-white performers. I don't have a problem with that because I'm not alone in this world. There are others who are different from me. So, if they want to showcase performers different from me, I'm fine with that. You know, they criticized "Seinfeld" and "Friends" for not having main black characters. So what? The shows were funny and appealed to me. They did not appeal to non-whites. OK. Fine. The Price of Bel Air did not appeal to me and so I did not watch. So what? I'm glad it appealed to others. To each their own. Like I said, America is becoming more diverse by the day. Life is too short. I move on. By the way, I understand that Bad Bunny in the end said that love is more important than hate. Didn't Erica Kirk say the same thing? Who could disagree with that?
 

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I turned away to the TPUSA halftime show before the NFL one could even get started.
Thank God. I bet you feel so much better now. Cheering on a guy that talks about drugs, sex and hookers vs a show about culture, a marriage and celebrating. Some of you need a long look in the mirror or stay off social media and Fox News.
 
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I'll add my 3 cents worth (inflation, you know). As a white, southern-born good ole boy, these Hispanic shows have no appeal to me. I am a kid of the Beatles, Carpenters, Chicago, Three Dog Night, etc music. And I was no fan of the George Lopez tv show. Then again, I have never been a fan of the all black tv shows (though I did like "The Jeffersons:; but that was a Norman Lear show; so that was different, to me). I watched a little of the Bad Bunny performance, with emphasis on "little". I agree with Trump that some of the dancing was inappropriate for young children. Certainly the NFL should have done better to prevent that dancing since a lot of children would be watching. I also agree with Trump that the lyrics were not easily understood. That said, I sometimes don't understand the lyrics of white performers. Of course, that could be because of poor hearing on my part (though I passed a hearing test this past summer, amazingly enough). America is becoming more diverse by the day. And so, I realize there is a market out there for Hispanic, black and other non-white performers. I don't have a problem with that because I'm not alone in this world. There are others who are different from me. So, if they want to showcase performers different from me, I'm fine with that. You know, they criticized "Seinfeld" and "Friends" for not having main black characters. So what? The shows were funny and appealed to me. They did not appeal to non-whites. OK. Fine. The Price of Bel Air did not appeal to me and so I did not watch. So what? I'm glad it appealed to others. To each their own. Like I said, America is becoming more diverse by the day. Life is too short. I move on. By the way, I understand that Bad Bunny in the end said that love is more important than hate. Didn't Erica Kirk say the same thing? Who could disagree with that?
If you had been playing baseball, you would have touched all the bases with that one and kept on going for another lap.;)
 

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If you had been playing baseball, you would have touched all the bases with that one and kept on going for another lap.;)
I sometimes try to be a uniter, rather than a divider.:)

I should have added that I grew up watching reruns of the old "I Love Lucy" tv show. I enjoyed watch Lucille Ball's husband, Cuban-born Desi Arnaz. "Babalu". "Lucy, splain yourself".:ROFLMAO:
 
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Like most political debates, I think the conversation gets wrapped up in bickering about the minor details and the actual issues fall to the side.

For the Bad Bunny performance, very few really cared that he sang in Spanish (Shakira during her SB performance and very few minded that as well). Very few care that he is a Latin entertainer performing at the Superbowl. That's been done before to little controversy.

The issue with Bad Bunny is that during a uniquely United States of America - American sporting event, during the 250th anniversary of our Country, the Corporate Entertainment industry specifically choose to include 2 very anti-United States performers. Bad Bunny and Greenday. To the point of Bad Bunny including other Countries' flags in his performance, as an intentional diss to the US.

Many people are going to take that personally. It was intended to be taken personally (see previous commentary from Bad Bunny on the subject). And it was intended to be politically divisive. All of which during the largest annual sporting event in the US.

You shouldn't blame people for being offended when the intent was to offend them.
 

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We live in a shock culture now. Obviously, Goodell and his cronies chose Bad Bunny solely b/c they knew it would stir a lot of controversy and controversy brings eyeballs.
Not really. The NFL has pretty much exhausted its American audience. They are looking worldwide now. Picking an artist like Bad Bunny makes sense. They figure the people that will complain have aged out of contemporary music anyway and there is nothing they can do to please them.
 
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You might be a dumbass.. lol. First off, the show isn't for you. Second off, it was basically a love letter to America... Third, Puerto Rico is a defacto 51st state. Either they are Americans or they aren't.. You might either be a flaming racist or just a moron.

Love letter to america? De facto 51st state?

I would ask if youre just making crap up, but you usually just drop drive by nonsense than disappear when asked about it.
 

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Many people are going to take that personally. It was intended to be taken personally (see previous commentary from Bad Bunny on the subject). And it was intended to be politically divisive. All of which during the largest annual sporting event in the US.

You shouldn't blame people for being offended when the intent was to offend them.


This.

As you pointed out, it was politics. And as usual with politics, you can do all you want to annoy the other side, then play the game of teasing them about why they are annoyed.

I and probably most of you, could have written this thread, including the posters who participated before the game, since we all knew this was exactly what was intended. And depending on our party, we have predetermined responses.
 
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The unspoken question here though is who are you guys picking to do the halftime besides someone over 60 that has not had a hit in 10-15 years.
 
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The unspoken question here though is who are you guys picking to do the halftime besides someone over 60 that has not had a hit in 10-15 years.
I don't really care about the halftime shows. It is what it is. My only "wish" is that the NFL would highlight artists local or at least regional to the event. In Atlanta, we should've had some combination of Outkast and The Black Crowes, San Francisco should've had Metallica. LA has a myriad of options, etc.
 
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Not really. The NFL has pretty much exhausted its American audience. They are looking worldwide now. Picking an artist like Bad Bunny makes sense. They figure the people that will complain have aged out of contemporary music anyway and there is nothing they can do to please them.
Yeah, I heard that they are looking to locate a team in England. Since we call their "football", "soccer", what would they call our "football" there? "Soccer" ? ;)
 

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I don't really care about the halftime shows. It is what it is. My only "wish" is that the NFL would highlight artists local or at least regional to the event. In Atlanta, we should've had some combination of Outkast and The Black Crowes, San Francisco should've had Metallica. LA has a myriad of options, etc.
That's a reasonable idea. For example, I thought it should have been Lil Wayne in N.O instead of Kendrick Lamar. However, they pick who they pick, but I think the idea of antagonizing a particular group with their picks is way off. Gamecock Central never likes the Half-time Show Artist. This is a thread that occurs every year.
 

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Not really. The NFL has pretty much exhausted its American audience. They are looking worldwide now. Picking an artist like Bad Bunny makes sense. They figure the people that will complain have aged out of contemporary music anyway and there is nothing they can do to please them.
Aged out! Good one!
 

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I heard that a lot of people made sure to watch the halftime because the MAGA people made a big issue of BB. If the MAGA folks kept quiet, it probably would not have gotten that many eyeballs. Unintended consequences.
I wonder where they get that number? I'm not calling BS, but that is 36% of the US population and I'm pretty confident that there is almost no entertainment event that has that kind of draw, even the Super Bowl. There are a lot of people who don't care about football in general and the NFL in particular. TV networks are not above overstating viewership numbers.

As far as it being some sort of anti MAGA response, only 75 million voted against Trump in 2024. I doubt another 52 million felt strongly enough to watch a halftime show as some sort of protest. The counter argument would be that at least 223 million didn't watch in protest of wokeness.

I don't really care what the halftime show is. If it is something I don't care for, I simply don't watch.
 

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As far as it being some sort of anti MAGA response, only 75 million voted against Trump in 2024. I doubt another 52 million felt strongly enough to watch a halftime show as some sort of protest. The counter argument would be that at least 223 million didn't watch in protest of wokeness.
You could be right. I don 't know. But Quinnipiac poll found that Trump has a 56% disapproval rating to 37% approval. Things have deteriorated significantly against him in 15 months.
 

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Where’s Ritchie Valens when you need him. Give me Los Lobos. Gloria Estefan…..SHAKIRA. Not really a culture thing. Bad Bunny is just BAD.
Although on our 250th birthday a word or two of English would have been nice.
 
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You could be right. I don 't know. But Quinnipiac poll found that Trump has a 56% disapproval rating to 37% approval. Things have deteriorated significantly against him in 15 months.
Rumor has it that the majority of the 37% that approve are on gamecock central
 

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I heard that a lot of people made sure to watch the halftime because the MAGA people made a big issue of BB. If the MAGA folks kept quiet, it probably would not have gotten that many eyeballs. Unintended consequences.
I personally never heard of B.B. prior to the super bowl. I watched as I always do. I thought the theatrics were good but I could take or leave the music.

I find it odd that MAGA made a big deal of this. Would they make the same big deal for Shikara, Rhianna, the Rolling Stones, the who, U2? None of them are US citizens, yet B.B. is. I don't know how you crap on one of your own? It's par for the course.

I also find it odd (yet not surprising) that Trump told everyone to boycott B.B., yet he watched.
 

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Have not watched a NFL game since the first time they knelt for the National Anthem. I did not watch the alternative either. Watched the ladies destroy the Vols and went back to church.
 

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I personally never heard of B.B. prior to the super bowl. I watched as I always do. I thought the theatrics were good but I could take or leave the music.

I find it odd that MAGA made a big deal of this. Would they make the same big deal for Shikara, Rhianna, the Rolling Stones, the who, U2? None of them are US citizens, yet B.B. is. I don't know how you crap on one of your own? It's par for the course.

I also find it odd (yet not surprising) that Trump told everyone to boycott B.B., yet he watched.
Bad Bunny is one of those artists I figured most had heard of because he is Taylor Swift/Beyonce big Worldwide. Heck, he had the 2nd most streams in the US besides Swift. So, he is one of those Pop Acts that you hear about all the time. I couldn't tell you one song he does, but I know his face because you see him anytime it comes to contemporary music.
 

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Yeah, I heard that they are looking to locate a team in England. Since we call their "football", "soccer", what would they call our "football" there? "Soccer" ? ;)
Actually, we call it soccer because that's what they called it. "Soccer" is an English word. 🙂
 

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Hey Belvedere - if you don`t watch Fox News then likely you are getting news reflecting the bias of the mainstream media. You probably think the small businesses in Minneapolis, for example, are being hurt by law enforcement instead of the incompetent, lying Democratic leaders there who encourage anarchy sorry they are not "peaceful protests" for the most part. You probably think The Learing Center there is an outstanding day care for kids there, even though no kids showed up there. Did you know 4 people were killed in one accident in Indiana a few days ago by yet another illegal who was driving a big rig that the state of Pa. gave him a license to drive? Can you explain how Omar`s husband business was worth $1 one year then $25 mil or so the next? I suppose you think requiring an ID to vote is somehow voter suppression? Funny how the Dems only say this, which is actually very insulting to minorities - only when it comes to voting! Of course, the real reason, the ONLY reason, is that they want to cheat in elections. Do Schumer & Jeffries really think people believe their BS? I suppose you think ICE shouldn`t have masks but the same people who want them & their families' lives put in more danger than they already are wanted people arrested for not wearing a mask during Covid? Guess it was ok to have kids stay out of school forever to satisfy the Teachers Union and not anything that was actually science-based? I could go on all night but I will stop.
 
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I find it odd that MAGA made a big deal of this. Would they make the same big deal for Shikara, Rhianna, the Rolling Stones, the who, U2? None of them are US citizens, yet B.B. is. I don't know how you crap on one of your own? It's par for the course.

Was probably the fact that his entire show was in a different language, and his political comments. Doubt many knew he was even from Puerto Rico.