OT: Lindsay Vonn crashes, knee likely permanently wrecked

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As someone with a still partially torn ACL for 16 years… why the hell did she risk this?

She tore her ACL a week ago, decided YOLO and to ski anyway… and now her leg is in serious trouble.

Awful to see, but not hard to predict.

 
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Bummer. She’s probably my favorite athlete. Amazing that she was winning WC races after a knee replacement. Hopefully she’s ok.
 

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Bummer. She’s probably my favorite athlete. Amazing that she was winning WC races after a knee replacement. Hopefully she’s ok.
According to the Reddit detectives, her $10M in sponsorship deals was tied up to her actually racing - which at least partially drove her decision.

So she’ll have plenty of cash to fix her knees up with.

I hope she can walk normally again someday.
 

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According to the Reddit detectives, her $10M in sponsorship deals was tied up to her actually racing - which at least partially drove her decision.

So she’ll have plenty of cash to fix her knees up with.

I hope she can walk normally again someday.
I just had a knee replacement. Unfortunately I’ve had some complications, but it did not shock me that she returned to competition given her nature. She’s amazing.

Knowing her, she will find some new sport like CrossFit or Highland Games.
 
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And American Breezy Johnson still took gold in the race.

As someone with a still partially torn ACL for 16 years… why the hell did she risk this?

She tore her ACL a week ago, decided YOLO and to ski anyway… and now her leg is in serious trouble.

Awful to see, but not hard to predict.
She clipped one of the gates. I'm not sure if that was related to her ACL injury or if it was a freak accident. But without a doubt she was taking a great risk.
 
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What I don't entirely like is why she was allowed by the US team management to compete. I totally understand why she would want to - athletes put themselves at risk all the time. But surely, given the recency of her injury, the runner-up in qualifying would be the better bet to win a medal for the USA TEAM.
 

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What I don't entirely like is why she was allowed by the US team management to compete. I totally understand why she would want to - athletes put themselves at risk all the time. But surely, given the recency of her injury, the runner-up in qualifying would be the better bet to win a medal for the USA TEAM.
Many skiers have competed with torn ACLs. It’s just not advertised.

She actually injured the other (non knee replacement leg) in her crash last week. Just bad luck she tore it.
 

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Many skiers have competed with torn ACLs. It’s just not advertised.

She actually injured the other (non knee replacement leg) in her crash last week. Just bad luck she tore it.
So she advertised it unnecessarily?

Thankfully millions of kids are watching and learning from this foolishness.
 

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I just had a knee replacement. Unfortunately I’ve had some complications, but it did not shock me that she returned to competition given her nature. She’s amazing.

Knowing her, she will find some new sport like CrossFit or Highland Games.
St. Paul girl. You know her? Hey, if you get up here to see her during her recuperation, give me a buzz, I'll buy you a beer. One night while cross country skiing at Buck Hill in Burnsville, I inadvertently ended up on the downhill course, so I guess I could say I have skied with Lindsay Vonn. Sad turn of events. She is one tough cookie.
 

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St. Paul girl. You know her? Hey, if you get up here to see her during her recuperation, give me a buzz, I'll buy you a beer. One night while cross country skiing at Buck Hill in Burnsville, I inadvertently ended up on the downhill course, so I guess I could say I have skied with Lindsay Vonn. Sad turn of events. She is one tough cookie.
Beer it is.
 

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Oh please. You sound triggered. Vonn’s decisions impose zero cost on you or society. She is the one who pays. And I’m sure she can live with it.
She didn’t sound like she was “living with it” when she was screaming in agony on the mountainside and airlifted to the hospital. She actually sounded the opposite of tough. I didn’t cry like that when I broke my femur in a bicycle accident as a fourth grader. (Admittedly I was in too much shock…)

Millions of kids hopefully learned from her reckless and selfish example.

Moral of this story: Don’t compete while majorly injured. It’s stupid.
 

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She didn’t sound like she was “living with it” when she was screaming in agony on the mountainside and airlifted to the hospital. She actually sounded the opposite of tough. I didn’t cry like that when I broke my femur in a bicycle accident as a fourth grader. (Admittedly I was in too much shock…)

Millions of kids hopefully learned from her reckless and selfish example.

Moral of this story: Don’t compete while majorly injured. It’s stupid.

Is it definite that she had a knee replacement? Was it a total or a partial? I highly doubt an orthopedic surgeon would do a total knee replacement on a 41-year-old knowing that she will need a revision in the future but anything is possible.
 

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Is it definite that she had a knee replacement? Was it a total or a partial? I highly doubt an orthopedic surgeon would do a total knee replacement on a 41-year-old knowing that she will need a revision in the future but anything is possible.
I think she will need a replacement now. An orthopedic expert like @docrugby1 could opine, but we’ll find out sooner or later when she starts her “rehab tour”.

She had a fully torn ACL and it looks like it got twisted around entirely and she couldn’t even move or lift it. I’d guess it got entirely dislocated today.

Full disclosure: my right knee is shot and, like most of my joints, will require replacement if I live long enough. But I am trying to wait as long as possible. The med tech just gets better and better.
 

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She didn’t sound like she was “living with it” when she was screaming in agony on the mountainside and airlifted to the hospital. She actually sounded the opposite of tough. I didn’t cry like that when I broke my femur in a bicycle accident as a fourth grader. (Admittedly I was in too much shock…)

Millions of kids hopefully learned from her reckless and selfish example.

Moral of this story: Don’t compete while majorly injured. It’s stupid.
Here's what a lot of us guys miss. It may have been emotional, not physical pain.
 
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Here's what a lot of us guys miss. It may have been emotional, not physical pain.
…they were asking her to move her leg to take off her ski and she was screaming “I CAN’T!”

It was clearly a physical pain.

I wish her no ill will and a speedy recovery.

But, like my mama once told me, Stupid Is as Stupid Does.
 

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She qualified for the Olympic team, and it’s not as if that’s subjective like figure skating, the it’s pretty black and white based on time. So it’s her prerogative to race unless a physician disqualifies her. If you felt someone else was more deserving then they should have skied faster than her in qualifying races.

And apparently this is the course where she’s had the most success in her career? And didnt she still have the 3rd fastest practice run? I’d argue that she had a better chance to medal even while injured than the alternates for the team. It’s just with her it was kind of an all or nothing, either her knee would hold out for the race or it wouldn’t and something like today would happen. Skiing spends on so much force and precision that the knee probably had something to do with her making an error like that. Or it was psychological.
 

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…they were asking her to move her leg to take off her ski and she was screaming “I CAN’T!”

It was clearly a physical pain.

I wish her no ill will and a speedy recovery.

But, like my mama once told me, Stupid Is as Stupid Does.
Of course she was also in physical pain. She is one extremely competitive individual. Dreams and leg both crushed. Having been a baller, you must recognize this.
 

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Is it definite that she had a knee replacement? Was it a total or a partial? I highly doubt an orthopedic surgeon would do a total knee replacement on a 41-year-old knowing that she will need a revision in the future but anything is possible.
Partial.
 

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…they were asking her to move her leg to take off her ski and she was screaming “I CAN’T!”

It was clearly a physical pain.

I wish her no ill will and a speedy recovery.

But, like my mama once told me, Stupid Is as Stupid Does.
Are you Forest Gump?
 

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Are you Forest Gump?
Starting to feel like it, although I’m neither as lucky nor good-looking 😉

Reports out of Italy are that Vonn had to have immediate surgery to stabilize her leg after a fracture. So, it wasn’t just ligament and joint damage. 😣

I feel her pain better than most, and wish she would have just made her comeback in 4 years on two healthy knees if she wanted to prove some point.

Recovering from a torn ACL to compete again at 45 may have been feasible. Now it will take her years just to walk normally again.
 

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She didn’t sound like she was “living with it” when she was screaming in agony on the mountainside and airlifted to the hospital. She actually sounded the opposite of tough. I didn’t cry like that when I broke my femur in a bicycle accident as a fourth grader. (Admittedly I was in too much shock…)

Millions of kids hopefully learned from her reckless and selfish example.

Moral of this story: Don’t compete while majorly injured. It’s stupid.
It’s her call.

kids can learn to make good decisions. My son is 15 and wise beyond his years, in part because we haven’t coddled and sheltered him like a precious little snowflake.
 

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It’s her call.

kids can learn to make good decisions. My son is 15 and wise beyond his years, in part because we haven’t coddled and sheltered him like a precious little snowflake.
Glad to hear he’s doing well. We all met briefly at the MSU 2021 game. What is he thinking about studying in college?

My older son’s interests vary from palentology, to engineering, to medicine. My younger one wants to be a cop. It fits their personalities thus far 😆

Speaking of MSU 2021, how about KW3 in the Super Bowl? Is he giving anyone else flashbacks to the miserable JON era under Fitz? 🤮

He’s the MVP of the first half
 

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As someone with a still partially torn ACL for 16 years… why the hell did she risk this?

She tore her ACL a week ago, decided YOLO and to ski anyway… and now her leg is in serious trouble.

Awful to see, but not hard to predict.


It was likely her last chance to try to compete at this level and others have said that her sponsorship monies likely depended on her actually racing
 

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And American Breezy Johnson still took gold in the race.


She clipped one of the gates. I'm not sure if that was related to her ACL injury or if it was a freak accident. But without a doubt she was taking a great risk.
Tehy are throwing themselves off of a mountain. What do you expect?
 

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Starting to feel like it, although I’m neither as lucky nor good-looking 😉

Reports out of Italy are that Vonn had to have immediate surgery to stabilize her leg after a fracture. So, it wasn’t just ligament and joint damage. 😣

I feel her pain better than most, and wish she would have just made her comeback in 4 years on two healthy knees if she wanted to prove some point.

Recovering from a torn ACL to compete again at 45 may have been feasible. Now it will take her years just to walk normally again.
She is 41. In 4 years 45. Sorry but that was not really possible.,
 
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Did she actually have a knee replacement?

Yes, she had knee surgery in 2024. Pretty amazing how robotics are being used now to assist surgeons. I’ve seen talks at UC San Diego how 3D visualization is assisting in the operating room, and planning the procedure before. Also 3D visualization is used to assess tumors. The tech is evolving fast.


 
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How do you guys know her knee is wrecked? Were you in the OR when they were working on her? If I had to speculate, I would speculate that she broke her femur.
 
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Most likely it was indeed physical pain! She is tough, but if she was screaming, her knee is gone.

Most likely it was indeed physical pain! She is tough, but if she was screaming, her knee is gone.
Agreed, she likely was in physical pain and if her skiis were still on, couldn't move without pain. But, you have made my point--assuming it was her knee, she knew her career was done. 41 years old, and started when she was 3--that's a lot of skiing.
 

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How do you guys know her knee is wrecked? Were you in the OR when they were working on her? If I had to speculate, I would speculate that she broke her femur.
Her leg had to be stabilized via emergency surgery. It’s neither clear if it’s a compound fracture nor if it’s her femur or tibia/fibula.

I imagine more damage was done to her knee as well - that spin looked nasty.

Hopefully it’s not as bad as it looked & sounded… but that sounded BAD. 😣
 
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How do you guys know her knee is wrecked? Were you in the OR when they were working on her? If I had to speculate, I would speculate that she broke her femur.
I mean, her knee was ALREADY wrecked earlier this week.