Chandler has come so far and he still has a long way to go. So talented.
My favorite replay of Oweh's pass to Chandler for the game winning 3
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The pass from Oweh has been largely overlooked but it was really amazing that he found him at all. With the traffic he drove into and after leaving his feet, honestly no clue how he saw him if he even did.
I love that Mareno said the moment it got to Chandler’s hands he knew the shot was going in. Lol
If he had missed notice we have 3 guys in a great position to rebound it. I like.
Compare Oweh's drive to Boozer's drives in final minutes in the Duke game. I said after that game that Scheyer blew it with his coaching decisions. Pope had our guys in position at the end to make the plays and win the game. Scheyer didn't do that.
Just glad @Anony Moose isn’t the coach, Oweh wouldn't have even been in the game to make that pass.
Lol, your realize you're proven you argument was defeated when you have to resort to lying, right?
Show us all a post where I said Oweh shouldn't play!
Totally agree. The pass was exceptional. Shot was clutch af but the pass was truly amazing.
LMAO, you wanted his minutes reduced and given to Noah. You said he was a team cancer. Own that sh*t.
Really great seeing the backcourt gel finally. Everybody seems to have figured out their roles and if we can keep up the intensity and defense this team can beat anyone. I want to see us beat someone that would be a three seed or better still but really like where they’re at.
So, you cant?
The irony is that since Noah (averaging right at 15 mpg over the last 5 games) and Chandler, who I also mentioned but you often seem to leave out since he's been playing well, as well as Aberdeen, who you used to mention but you stopped since he started playing really well, all started playing more, we are playing our best basketball of the year. Granted, Oweh has started jacking less shots and playing more efficiently as well, which I also said was needed. So kudos to him as well.
Lol, wasn't it you that said Noah would get embarrassed against SEC teams and was a Glorified walk-on?
Well Pope is 1-0 against Scheyer when Scheyer had vastly superior talent (2 of his players combined for 80+ points in an NBA game last week), so that’s not surprising.
Scheyer has an FF on talent alone. And that’s fine… Cal was the same way. But if Pope ever gets similar talent, look out.
The two late timeouts to settle everything down were well-timed as well.
Exactly!! I love watching our guys in those late game situations after a timeout. It was no accident that Chandler was positioned behind the 3 point line as Oweh drove to the basket. Oweh knew that if he didn't have a clear shot to kick it out. Duke's plan was to get out of the way and let Boozer take it to the basket and see what happens. UNC was looking for it to happen and the result was a big L.
I like how Pope was as calm as a cucumber and organized when he took both time-outs. Calms the team down. Can't wait to watch Duke come up short yet again in the tourney.
Lol, so where did I say don't play him? You just reposted messages where I said he would still play.
You're proving yourself to be a liar.
You wanted to cut his minutes. You’re the only person in the world that would cut Oweh's minutes and give those minutes to players that can't carry a team.
I don't know if you realize this, but if you cut a players minutes, it means he goes to the bench and sits there. So when you cut his minutes from 30 to 22, which is the number you suggested, that's 8 more game minutes where Oweh is not on the floor, so chances are, he would not have been on the floor to make that pass to Chandler and he would not have been defending Gillespie for 18 gane minutes instead of 10. We only won by 3.
You're the only fool that would cut our best players minutes. If you were coaching, we would still be looking for our first win over a power 5 program. All because OO had sex with your momma.
I wanted to give those minutes to players who bring value. I never said they can carry a team as we have no one that can reliably carry a team. And before you say oweh can, we are headed to double digit losses for our 2nd season in a row. If he could carry a team, he would have.
Cutting minutes down some doesn't equate to not playing at all or even most of the game. So, again, you're admitting I never said Oweh shouldn't he playing at or all or a lot even.
Why would the chances be he wouldn't be on the floor for that pass. When did it come in the game? Now, when did I say Oweh should get sit the most?
Lol, I said Noah, Chandler and Williams playing more would make us better. Williams got hurt, Chandler and Noah are playing more. Magically... We are better after they did. Not sure how that makes me wrong. Lulz.
Weren't you the one who said Noah was a glorified walk-on who would get abused by SEC teams?
Do me a favor, keep posting. You consistently display just how little you know about the game.I wanted to give those minutes to players who bring value. I never said they can carry a team as we have no one that can reliably carry a team. And before you say oweh can, we are headed to double digit losses for our 2nd season in a row. If he could carry a team, he would have.
Cutting minutes down some doesn't equate to not playing at all or even most of the game. So, again, you're admitting I never said Oweh shouldn't he playing at or all or a lot even.
Why would the chances be he wouldn't be on the floor for that pass. When did it come in the game? Now, when did I say Oweh should get sit the most?
Lol, I said Noah, Chandler and Williams playing more would make us better. Williams got hurt, Chandler and Noah are playing more. Magically... We are better after they did. Not sure how that makes me wrong. Lulz.
Weren't you the one who said Noah was a glorified walk-on who would get abused by SEC teams?
But you're literally blaming all our failures on Oweh. You saying us having double digit losses is his fault. That's crazy.
You do know that Pope changed the offense and now that the rotations are set, everyone knows their roles.
Oweh is playing at a first team all SEC level right now, but all you want to go on about is how all 7 losses are his fault when the reality is, the whole team was broken until recently.
Again, I don't know what Oweh did to piss you off, but whatever it is, he triggered your feelings. You have issues.
Lol, I know so little, but I was correct. Lol, okay.
Where did I blame everything on Oweh? Lol, again, comprehension isn't a strength of yours, is it? Hint: I said he isn't a player that can carry a team. He can't! If he could, we would have carried somewhere besides double digit losses for 2 years.
He made adjustments to how we are playing across the board. As he should have. If you haven't noticed, that's included Oweh jacking less shots the last several games, and other players becoming more involved and getting more minutes. As a result, we have improved in every area of the game, and every player looks better.
The last 5 or so games, Oweh has been great! Hopefully that sticks.
Again, where did I blame everything on Oweh? Try taking a reading comprehension class. I really think you would benefit.
Correctly reiterating that Oweh isn't going to carry us to anything isn't blaming him. Lulz.
I'm pissed because I wanted him jacking less shots and others to get more opportunities to help us? LMAO. Poor guy.
You should go back and read your own posts. You never say a negative word about any other player, just Oweh. 'We have double digit losses because Oweh', 'Oweh can't carry a team', 'Oweh is jacking too.many shots'.
Oweh has been carrying tnis team in most games. He gets the toughest defensive assignments and he’s the one driving the ball to create offense when the team needs it. You’re the only guy on this entire board that continuously blames the teams failures on him and according to you, he does nothing good. You hate the fact that he's playing at a first team all SEC level. You cant hide your hate.
I've said several. Oweh was the getting the most shots and minutes, and was also the most disappointing from pre season expectations. Why wouldn’t people complain more about him?
I've complained about Lowe, JQ, Jelly, Chandler, Lowe, Williams, Noah, Jasper, Garrison and pretty much everyone not named MM. MM hasn't been perfect but has outperformed everyone's expectations.
Him "carrying" the team is why we lost so many. That's not his game or ability.
Again, lying isn't going to get you anywhere bro.
Also, did you just want to keep ignoring what you said about Noah??
He is a glorified walk on and thanks to the other guys on the court, all he has to do is play the role of Robin. He gets 1 or 2 rebounds and scores a couple points. He doesn't take any chances and he doesn't force the action, because he's not capable of doing more than his role.
That's what you don't understand. Oweh, CC, MM and DA are drawing most of the attention, the other guys just need to do their jobs.
You keep talking about giving some of Oweh's minutes to Noah is so laughable. Noah couldn’t handle that kind of smoke. The fact that you think Noah could even handle 2 minutes of the pressure Oweh is getting, is hilarious.
He seems to be handling it quite well. Been averaging like 15 mpg over the last 5. He doesn't seem to be hurting us or giving up much. Has played some solid D and generated some nice steals. Is a solid FT shooter. 38% 3 pt shooter on 2.1 attempts per game. And 50% 2pt FG%. Solid rebounder for his position.
Should he shoot more? Sure! But he also doesn't force it or just jack **** up.
In his last 5, he is averaging over 3 pts, with about 3 rebounds and a steal per game. In just under 15 mpg. He also consistently brings effort amd energy He is doing pretty well for a glorified walk-on. Lulz.
It's funny that when Trent started playing more, the team started consistently winning.
Here's the difference, Oweh doesn't get to play the role of Robin, like Noah does, Oweh has the weight of the team on his shoulders, if he doesn't bring it, chances are, we lose, if Noah doesn’t bring it, nobody notices. Everyone here is happy with anything Noah can give. The expectations aren’t in the same universe.
If Noah had to play the Batman role, he would wilt. He’s not able to do that, but you're acting like both guys are pulling the same weight. That's what you refuse to admit.
You are patting Noah on the back for putting up walk-on stats, but crapping on Oweh for averaging 20/3.5/3/3 and acting like both players are equal.
I can't believe I have to actually explain this.
The flaw with your logic is that when we were doing it that way, we were losing...often by a lot. Doing it my way, with Noah and Chandler playing more, we are winning. And that includes Oweh actually doing less shooting, with similar overall results.
We could easily win without Oweh if guys step it up across the board. Aberdeen, Chandler, MM, Jelavic, Mo D, are all capable of taking on larger scoring roles if needed.
Why would we need Noah to be Batman? You're coming up with these very illogical fallacies. It's odd. Have I ever said we need Noah to replace all of Oweh's stats? Lulz.
Those aren't exactly walk on stats if you're basing it on per 40.
12.3 pts, 7.6 boards, 2.1 steals, 1.7 assists are Trents numbers based on 40 mpg. You think that's walk on level?
That's not even breaking down just his last 5.
He sure looks like a player that can be productive and take on a much larger role if needed. Certainly not a "glorified walk-on" or someone who would get "abused" in the SEC as you have claimed.
Oweh had every intention to take and make that last shot but was smothered by multiple defenders under the basket so goes the pass to Chandler.He needs to quit ignoring Chandler when he is wide open he did this multiple times during this game and others as well. Chandler along with Oweh are the two clutch players during make it or break it time. Oweh is the player that carries us and opens it up for others to score when they play that way the team is at its best.
The only reason Noah is playing, is because Kam broke his foot. Are you telling me we are better off with Noah playing over Kam?
So, in your mind, playing Oweh and Kam less and giving those extra minutes to Noah, is the way to go?
Noah cant defend anyone’s best player and Noah can’t even score in double figures, even if you played him 30mpg.
Oweh is scoring 20+ every game WHILE he's guarding the other teams best players.
Like I said before, this is equivalent to Tennessee cutting Nate Ament's down.
There is no coach in the country that would play Oweh less than 30mpg in any game that wasn't a blowout.
If you cut 8 minutes off Oweh's minutes, we lose every game except maybe the Mississippi State game. Pope woukd get run out on a rail if he was only playing Oweh 22mpg.
Obviously Pope disagrees with you and he has the team 1/2 game out of first place and they've won 8 out of 9.
DA and Moreno have made just as many clutch plays as Chandler has.
But also, none of us knows what Oweh was told to do. However, Pope has said many times, that getting Oweh downhill, is extremely important and hard to defend. Rick Barns said the same thing, so I'd imagine that's what Oweh was doing.
Not only that, but more times than not, it ends in at least a foul on the defense. It doesn’t mean he's ignoring anyone, it most likely means he's doing what he was told to do.
I would have given Kam more at the time, but Noah would have still gotten some. Kam had issues as well.
Lol, Noah is playing quite well. He has actually been one of our better defenders lately.
Didn't Noah just score like 9 points in 19min against Arkansas? Yet, you think he couldn't score 1 more? Lulz. Did he bang your mom or something?
Lol, also, I literally just provided you his performance 40 which shows he would score double digits and it also has him outperforming Oweh in several stats on the per 40. You're spiraling!
Oweh is scoring 20 because he takes twice as many shots. If Aberdeen, Chandler and others took that many shots, they likely outscore Oweh pretty easily.
Except they would, particularly whe he was playing awful. And chances are we perform the same or better. The stats support that. But you also have to understand them to be able to interpret them. Something you've admitted you lack.
Pope disagrees with me by playing Chandler and Noah more and having Oweh jack less shots the last 5 games? That's an interesting take. Lulz.
Currently Noah's defensive rating is 3rd on the team at 102.3, only behind MM and MoD.
Offensive rating, Noah is 130.2. Oweh is 118.8. That would make Noah 2nd and Oweh 7th.
I think you need to check the percentages of the players you just listed. Oweh has been extremely efficient, especially the last 3 weeks.
I think it's funny how you ignore everyone else's flaws and act like they are so efficient. Go look at the end of the uNC and Missouri games, Aberdeen single handedly lost both of those games because he decided to play streetball. But not a peep from you.
Chandler was unplayable for several games, he just recently got his game back, but again, you critisize Oweh and say nothing about Chandler's bad games.
And again, Noah is in a perfect position, put him on the court with 3 or 4 good players and all he has to do, is make the easy plays, but the second you put him in a leading role, you would see how not ready he is for that kind of pressure. He’s a very good walk on, nothing more.
We were losing because the whole system was broken. The players hated each other and Pope was shuffling players in and out every 2 minutes. Pope changed the offense and now has set roles for each player.
Now, there is a set rotation and here's where your logic fails. When Pope was playing 13 players, Oweh's minutes were way down, now, he’s over 30mpg and we're winning. You play your best players. Everyone, but you, knows this.
This is false. You want to change what we're doing right now, shave Oweh's minutes down and ask the others to do more? That might be the dumbest crap I have ever heard.
You obviously didn't read what I said, or you didn't understand it. I said Noah is playing the role of Robin. That is a much easier role to play than the one Oweh is playing. IF Noah ever had to.play the batman role, he would fail badly.
But those aren't the stats he would get if he played 40mpg. Defenses in this league aren’t going to allow Noah to put up those kind of numbers.
But here's the obvious fact, you're wanting to sit our best player, who would double those per 40 stats, for a guy that, on his absolute best day, can only muster 12 points? #dumb
He’s a glorified walk on that just has to be a complimentary player when he's on the court. He’s never going to be a primary player.
That's because he has taken almost half as many shots per game the last 5 and others are now taking them instead. How do you not understand that?
Who's flaws have I ignored? Tell us!
Aberdeen single handily allowed those games to be close at the end? All by himself did he?
I have pointed out everyone's flaws multiple times, Ms. Oweh, but I can't make you read them.
Who is asking for Noah to lead the team? Lulz!
Fallacies don't win arguments, ma'am.