Op said that adults are trying to have reasonable conversations…
You made yourself look like a moron and you’re trying damage control now so that you can continue to troll on this account and not have to make a new one to troll next week..
JQ and his Pops should be humiliated
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Op said that adults are trying to have reasonable conversations…
You made yourself look like a moron and you’re trying damage control now so that you can continue to troll on this account and not have to make a new one to troll next week..
His dad and he have to step up to decide if he's on board or not. The biggest fan base in basketball (college or pro) is watching. How will they respond?
I’d like to think that’s what it is. I’m just not so sure that’s the case. I mean, knee swelling was to be expected. Something doesn’t add up.
EDIT: Let me say that I don’t believe it’s entirely his decision. I think his Dad is having a big time influence on him not playing. JMO.
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This is probably the correct answer to all of it. Which is a sad testament to the state of college athletics. I don’t think he’s a bad kid, just playing the game the way it’s laid out for him. It is what it is.
At this point, I say to heck with him and his dad. Our team has learned to play without him and I don't believe his return would be positive for this team right now. Just don't see him being that big a factor so late in the season and how far he is behind. Other guys have now stepped up and have responded in such a good way. He might actually be a disruption now, strange as that might sound.
Moreno gives Kentucky the best chance to win at the 5 regardless what JQ does the rest of the year. I'll take these performances from Garrison this past week, having a career game against Oklahoma, then following it up with 7 boards to lead the team off the bench vs Tennessee.
He doesn't fit a college game. Freak athlete with not many basketball skills at the time. It's in his best interest not to show why he can't shoot or score..
I agree with everything but personally I need to know if he quit or not... Don't you care
He'll regret it no doubt if he did
Pretty obvious the decision has been made.
The other thread at the top of the first page wasn’t good enough for you? Had to create a meaningless second post? Some people are insufferable.
No thanks. If he wants to play then he can come back next year. I absolutely wouldn’t allow him back this year. He wouldn’t be a difference maker and would only disrupt the progress our bigs have made.
100% agree, he would only screw up the chemistry that this team and coach have worked hard to be where they are now.
Really loving this bunch, and how they have improved under fire.
Go cats
He should have to return 90% of his NIL money he got here. He basically got away with robbing a bank. Gets top of the line training and rehab for a year without ever having to really contribute to the team and make a couple million doing it.
I’d be livid if I were a booster. Hell it even makes me mad when I think about it and it’s not even my money.
I’d be livid if I were a booster. Hell it even makes me mad when I think about it and it’s not even my money.
Well then UK and Mark should not have spent that money on him. We could have added that to Caleb Wilson, not recruit Lowe and had Acaden, and it’s literally a championship roster from the gate.
Only thing I’ll say is it wouldn’t be bad to have him come in if foul trouble and in certain moments for a rest for garrison and MM. just imagine if both end up with 3 early in the 2nd half of tournament game and you have him able to come in. Could be a major difference.
Yea the money needs to be given back. Point blank. Either give it back, agree to be used to a point, or turn all the gear in and leave the bench. Don’t let him pretend he’s a UK player.
It will be interesting to see how Pope handles this situation, who will actually care about nuances like this as opposed to Cal’s endless behind the scenes “GTFO.”
Moreno playing now = to healthy Quintance from what I saw watching video from Arizona State. Why would Jayden be capable of starting over Malachi with his not ready for prime time knee?
Folks need to better appreciate what we have in one Malachi Moreno!
Leave JQ alone! He’s about to fake is way to multi millions by being tall and broad! Do you have any idea how risky that is?
And here we have fans wanting him to play and throw it all away by getting on the court and stuff! You’re just jealous that your not 6 ‘10 and suck at BB and about to become rich by looking like you don’t suck at BB!
And here we have fans wanting him to play and throw it all away by getting on the court and stuff! You’re just jealous that your not 6 ‘10 and suck at BB and about to become rich by looking like you don’t suck at BB!
All these people crucifying the OP have obviously forgotten about, or never saw what his dad said after UK opened SEC play 0-2. His dad decided to pop off on Twitter about how his son was not being used correctly, then all the sudden he was shut down. Idk how you can be a dedicated UK fan and somehow missed that. It was plain as day what was happening.
Mark Pope is handling the situation with grace because that’s who Mark Pope is. But there’s nothing wrong with the kid, I don’t give a damn what Jack Pilgrim or any fictitious doctor says. The Quaintance family is attempting to protect his draft stock, 100%. And the thing is, I’m not even mad at them. I would probably panic and do the same thing (shut it down) if I was in their shoes. But what I would NOT do is throw the coach under the bus like they did. It was classless, but Pope has class so he isn’t gonna say anything. But as far as JQ’s dad? You’re a real piece of work. Just be a man and own what you are doing.
Mark Pope is handling the situation with grace because that’s who Mark Pope is. But there’s nothing wrong with the kid, I don’t give a damn what Jack Pilgrim or any fictitious doctor says. The Quaintance family is attempting to protect his draft stock, 100%. And the thing is, I’m not even mad at them. I would probably panic and do the same thing (shut it down) if I was in their shoes. But what I would NOT do is throw the coach under the bus like they did. It was classless, but Pope has class so he isn’t gonna say anything. But as far as JQ’s dad? You’re a real piece of work. Just be a man and own what you are doing.
Who is the dumbass who paid this useless clown millions of dollars?
Yea that’s what I posted above. He was shut down right after his dad said it. Read up you’ll see my post.
As I said correlations doesn’t always equal causation but, ya know it is a necessary ingredient for causation too, and this is routinely left out of that cute saying isn’t it.
It’s just crappy that had we not looked at Loe, we have Acaden, and had we just used that JQ money on Caleb Wilson, look at this team. That’s #9. Makes me sick to think about it. Mark has got to learn from this from now on. And enough of the “we don’t need freshman”. Yes we do, we just can’t go hard up on it like Calipari. It’s always been a mix and right now we’re too far in the opposite direction. We’re in extremes and need to find that mix, get a core of 7 guys and have elite young talent and upperclassmen and stop meddling in extremes and rosters without stars 15 deep.
Reason explained post #19. Now we are post #68, nobody paying any attention.
Unless an ortho doctor comes out and says he could play, I am not going to dish on the kid, they say his knee is swelling I take their word for it.
I’m with just about everyone else here that thinks JQ has shut it down this year and is going to put his name in the draft. He has to be hurting internally if his knee is good to go and he is just sitting out to not to drop in the draft.
If he is legitimately injured, then I hope he can get healthy, but he needs another year of college basketball to prove himself to scouts if he wants to be a lottery pick, there are way too many good prospects coming out this season, next season not as much.
Would he consider coming back to UK next year and would you want him back?
If he is legitimately injured, then I hope he can get healthy, but he needs another year of college basketball to prove himself to scouts if he wants to be a lottery pick, there are way too many good prospects coming out this season, next season not as much.
Would he consider coming back to UK next year and would you want him back?
I actually like the kid but he has zero offense and can't be in down the stretch because they would intentionally hack him and send hin to the line. That being said, no way he chances that knee by coming back. I dont blame him.
His poor performance and how it could affect his draft status makes me question whether he will be back or not more so than his knee. I kinda wish if he shut it down they just announce it and put it to rest. That’s what makes the fans upset is the unknown. However I know they won’t sell him out like that and it would be a bad look to the NBA if he said it.
Agreed on all points. And not to mention JQ and his dad hitched their wagon originally to Cal so the draft was the only thing that really mattered to them. Cal always talked about players playing for the name on the back. Selfish players. I think that's what JQ is. If I were Pope, I would tell him to hit the road and then go to the media and do the opposite of what Cal would do. I would tell the world JQ didn't like the way he was being coached and he thought he could just shut it down and milk millions while doing it. Nope, not here. Bye!
At this point, I'd rather just run with what we have. The players seemed to have accepted their roles and I just wonder if JQ coming back would disrupt that
Let’s not confuse the mistake done by Kentucky coaching stuff to put so much faith and money into a player that just had anACL surgery instead of a healthy player with the problematic recovery.
i Don’t think the kid has a bad character. He genuinely cares . You just can’t play basketball if the knee has a problem. Especially, the way JQ is built and his game right now is mostly based on athleticism and less on skills.
His dad is a different story made some smart business decisions but very bad PR comments for his son which in the future might cost his son.
I also question the wisdom of Kentucky staff how they added extra weight on a body that already heavy, recovering from ACL Surgery. You can strengthen the leg without adding tens of lbs, and I dont care if they are “muscle” weight . You are just adding extra pressure on the joints and ligaments.
I think this whole process of bulking up for basketball players where they add 20-30 lbs of “ muscle “ in a summer can’t be healthy long term for their joints. I know it “helps” on the surface to sustain the physicality of the other SEC players that do the same thing but long term this is a mistake. majority of these players when then do go to nba tried to get slimmer, more flexible and stronger so they extend their careers.
i Don’t think the kid has a bad character. He genuinely cares . You just can’t play basketball if the knee has a problem. Especially, the way JQ is built and his game right now is mostly based on athleticism and less on skills.
His dad is a different story made some smart business decisions but very bad PR comments for his son which in the future might cost his son.
I also question the wisdom of Kentucky staff how they added extra weight on a body that already heavy, recovering from ACL Surgery. You can strengthen the leg without adding tens of lbs, and I dont care if they are “muscle” weight . You are just adding extra pressure on the joints and ligaments.
I think this whole process of bulking up for basketball players where they add 20-30 lbs of “ muscle “ in a summer can’t be healthy long term for their joints. I know it “helps” on the surface to sustain the physicality of the other SEC players that do the same thing but long term this is a mistake. majority of these players when then do go to nba tried to get slimmer, more flexible and stronger so they extend their careers.
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Correct. He just has to try to not be in that situation again. In the NIL age, college programs are going to have to treat recruiting much like successful professional teams do. Vetting kids and the people around them very carefully to see if they fit what you want for your program.
When pro teams sign a player ,in any sports , the contract is always pending the medical clearance. In what world , a doctor would have cleared JQ to play basketball at the date when JQ signed with UK?
this was clearly a mistake by Pope. He was under pressure to sign a big name and since he could not get one from recruiting or portal , he got one from injury list , one that no one would touch for that amount of money.
Pope gambled with UK nil money. Too me this whole situation is on him.
I hope he learns from it, because i want him to succeed. He didn’t learn from the PG injury debacle in his first year But I put that under the pressure he was under to deliver a championship team when he had 22 million to play with.
the Key would be for him to analyze why he got to be under pressure and make some adjustments in his strategy , staffing and timing. I think he needs a GM to deal with NIL fundraising and which would build a recruiting department that will watch players in division 1, 2 and HS. The assistant coaches cannot do this during the season. The window for transfer portal is shrinking. You need to have clear targets with back up and clear budget for each target that you can execute on. To me UK is not well prepared for the current NIl, portal, HS recruiting. Other schools are ahead of us big time. If we don’t make some changes will become a less and less competitive as a program,
this was clearly a mistake by Pope. He was under pressure to sign a big name and since he could not get one from recruiting or portal , he got one from injury list , one that no one would touch for that amount of money.
Pope gambled with UK nil money. Too me this whole situation is on him.
I hope he learns from it, because i want him to succeed. He didn’t learn from the PG injury debacle in his first year But I put that under the pressure he was under to deliver a championship team when he had 22 million to play with.
the Key would be for him to analyze why he got to be under pressure and make some adjustments in his strategy , staffing and timing. I think he needs a GM to deal with NIL fundraising and which would build a recruiting department that will watch players in division 1, 2 and HS. The assistant coaches cannot do this during the season. The window for transfer portal is shrinking. You need to have clear targets with back up and clear budget for each target that you can execute on. To me UK is not well prepared for the current NIl, portal, HS recruiting. Other schools are ahead of us big time. If we don’t make some changes will become a less and less competitive as a program,
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Correct. His size, power and strength put more force through the knee, especially ground reaction force. The bigger the athlete, the bigger the force numbers. Individually, some people's knees are more easily irritated than others. Swelling is one of the indicators and one of the ways your knee tells you to slow down. Hopefully he doesn't have pain along with the swelling.
Kentucky fans would be much more sympathetic to him if his dad hadn't made such a fuss about his usage. We can't help but be skeptical.
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