Something I noticed about Popes first class

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He really is struggling recruiting. That doesn’t change that fact. He found some good diamonds in the rough though.
I don’t think he’s struggling that bad. He’s just a B+ level recruiter and he’s following the greatest recruiter of all-time. One of the top rated classes last year portal+high school and fans blame recruiting because Pope isn’t Cal.
 

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I don’t think he’s struggling that bad. He’s just a B+ level recruiter and he’s following the greatest recruiter of all-time. One of the top rated classes last year portal+high school and fans blame recruiting because Pope isn’t Cal.
freshman recruiting is still VASTLY important

we wouldnt have collin chandler if it wasnt for freshman recruiting, and same for moreno
 

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We have had the 5th ranked transfer portal class both years under Pope so far.
highest payroll, and the hs recruiting has been bad

if your spending that much you shoukd be top 5 in both

and next season since we wont have any freshman we have no excuse not to have the best portal class
 
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Some fans are still waiting on another period like 1993-1998 and won’t be able to enjoy because of an unrealistic comparison.

Some fans are still waiting on another coach to recruit like John Calipari and won’t be able to enjoy because of an unrealistic comparison.

You won’t change Kentucky basketball by your disposition. But you can change what you get out of it by recognizing things for what they are. Calipari isn’t walking back through the door and neither is Rick. We best hope Mark Pope plays to his own strengths and succeeds here. Otherwise we all lose.
 

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highest payroll, and the hs recruiting has been bad

if your spending that much you shoukd be top 5 in both

and next season since we wont have any freshman we have no excuse not to have the best portal class
You are doing what the other anon JMI guy accused everyone of doing....you are taking a quote from a guy X with "unnamed sources" and no proof. That guy, nor any one else outside of UK know how much was spent on the basketball nil . Everyone just took it for true and ran with it because it was UK. I would almost guarantee there were several other schools that out spent spent UK and the 22 mil number isn't accurate. No one knows what any school payed for their teams. Why? Because those numbers are not reported or posted anywhere. All you have is someone speculating with no real knowledge. It is so tiring to keep see all of you post that number to trash popes recruiting and you have not one shred of proof that the 22 mil number is accurate. None.
 
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Some fans are still waiting on another period like 1993-1998 and won’t be able to enjoy because of an unrealistic comparison.

Some fans are still waiting on another coach to recruit like John Calipari and won’t be able to enjoy because of an unrealistic comparison.

You won’t change Kentucky basketball by your disposition. But you can change what you get out of it by recognizing things for what they are. Calipari isn’t walking back through the door and neither is Rick. We best hope Mark Pope plays to his own strengths and succeeds here. Otherwise we all lose.
bro we aren't even ranked and have gotten beat by 20-30 pts multiple times and have been down double digits in what seems like every game. this isn't 1993 anymore. you don't need 5 years to be good. having a bad hire doesn't do anything to you. with NIL all you need is 1 year. stop pearl clutching.
 

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You are doing what the other anon JMI guy accused everyone of doing....you are taking a quote from a guy X with "unnamed sources" and no proof. That guy, nor any one else outside of UK know how much was spent on the basketball nil . Everyone just took it for true and ran with it because it was UK. I would almost guarantee there were several other schools that out spent spent UK and the 22 mil number isn't accurate. No one knows what any school payed for their teams. Why? Because those numbers are not reported or posted anywhere. All you have is someone speculating with no real knowledge. It is so tiring to keep see all of you post that number to trash popes recruiting and you have not one shred of proof that the 22 mil number is accurate. None.
jack pilgrim over the summer said pope wanted that number to get out 😂😂
 

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Ever since I can remember - and that's way before Cal came along - UK was getting top-shelf, 5-star guys out of high school every year. Pope hasn't shown that - yet. Maybe he will. Yes, Cal for several years took it to a level we had never seen before, getting multiple top 10 guys in a single class. Nobody expects Pope to recruit like that. Even Cal couldn't keep it up.

But people do expect Pope to recruit at the typical UK level, pre-Cal (well, and pre- Billy G). If he can't, I don't see how he can complete the Assignment.
 
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Post it. I have never seen a quote from program staying any such thing. Even if he did say "Pope wanted that number to get out", Pilgrim is well known for posting inaccurate information with no true sources. If you think that is proof then you are delusional. Why would pope want that number to get out? Seriously, people are so gullible.
 

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Post it. I have never seen a quote from program staying any such thing. Even if he did say "Pope wanted that number to get out", Pilgrim is well known for posting inaccurate information with no true sources. If you think that is proof then you are delusional. Why would pope want that number to get out? Seriously, people are so gullible.
if i still had access to ksboard id show you but i was banned on there
 

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I don’t think he’s struggling that bad. He’s just a B+ level recruiter and he’s following the greatest recruiter of all-time. One of the top rated classes last year portal+high school and fans blame recruiting because Pope isn’t Cal.
I agree. These are very good players. We do not have a player problem. We will have a player problem next year because of how these guys have been coached. Or not coached, I should say.
 

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Everybody forgets last year there were a sh*t tonne of fifth year Covid seniors in the portal to choose from and there were zero of those lads this year. Pope couldn’t have built-in experience so he went for built-in defense to balance that out. Perfect strategy on paper.
 

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I don’t think he’s struggling that bad. He’s just a B+ level recruiter and he’s following the greatest recruiter of all-time. One of the top rated classes last year portal+high school and fans blame recruiting because Pope isn’t Cal.
Nobody is Cal but seeing him whiff on so many stars plus having two actual stars lined up to commit and then run into all these issues sucks. I do think JMO is screwing him but I also think if he was that good it would be worked around.
 

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Ever since I can remember - and that's way before Cal came along - UK was getting top-shelf, 5-star guys out of high school every year. Pope hasn't shown that - yet. Maybe he will. Yes, Cal for several years took it to a level we had never seen before, getting multiple top 10 guys in a single class. Nobody expects Pope to recruit like that. Even Cal couldn't keep it up.

But people do expect Pope to recruit at the typical UK level, pre-Cal (well, and pre- Billy G). If he can't, I don't see how he can complete the Assignment.
How many titles came from those multiple 5 star classes?
 

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Well he must be one hell or a coach then. If all these guys he lands suck, we sure win a lot of games with sucky players. 🤣
 

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Ever since I can remember - and that's way before Cal came along - UK was getting top-shelf, 5-star guys out of high school every year. Pope hasn't shown that - yet. Maybe he will. Yes, Cal for several years took it to a level we had never seen before, getting multiple top 10 guys in a single class. Nobody expects Pope to recruit like that. Even Cal couldn't keep it up.

But people do expect Pope to recruit at the typical UK level, pre-Cal (well, and pre- Billy G). If he can't, I don't see how he can complete the Assignment.
You remember Tubby landing 5 star guys, class after class?! I sure don’t remember that. At all. Tubby was a terrible recruiter!
 

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I honestly like the recruiting class he landed this year minus a couple things. In hindsight losing Lewis was big. And I feel like he would have been a better fit than Lowe even pre injury due to more size and not as ball dominant. He also put too much faith in Quaintance being healthy. In hindsight a guy like Morez Johnson would have been a better signing. I really like Cam, Jelavic can be productive as a stretch 4, Jasper hasn’t been what we hoped for but you can see the talent. Mo and Denzel are vet winners and that’s important come tourney time. Hawthorne probably should have played and been allowed to grow. And Moreno has been a godsend.
 

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I don’t think he’s struggling that bad. He’s just a B+ level recruiter and he’s following the greatest recruiter of all-time. One of the top rated classes last year portal+high school and fans blame recruiting because Pope isn’t Cal.
B+ recruiter, who had to take his 3rd options in the portal. And how’s the 2026 class looking? Loaded with signees so far…
 
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B+ recruiter, who had to take his 3rd options in the portal. And how’s the 2026 class looking? Loaded with signees so far…
B+ level recruiter — still had one of the top classes portal + high school last year. Throwing the laugh emoji may make you feel better but I’d bet anyone unassociated with Kentucky basketball would be far more likely to agree with my assessment than y’all who die on the hill that he’s the worst recruiter in major conference basketball. I don’t believe in grading on a curve but I also don’t believe in cherry picking to “win” these pointless online arguments either. You have to convince yourself that every coach gets their first targets — they don’t. Pope has bigger fish to fry than recruiting but if you want to say he’s F recruiter that’s ok — do you. You’ll get all the likes and amens, but anyone objective or fair is going to think you have no credibility.
 
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Ever since I can remember - and that's way before Cal came along - UK was getting top-shelf, 5-star guys out of high school every year.
This is largely because 20 years ago recruits still cared about the program and its tradition. That is all completely meaningless in 2026. They just don't care about tradition or titles won before they were born. There's a reason our only two highly ranked recruits are Kentucky kids. Because for recruits from anywhere else the word Kentucky means nothing more than the word Alabama.

It's about the coach and NIL nowadays. Program tradition is no longer a recruiting tool. In 1998 the Kentucky brand could make a guy like Tubby a good recruiter, but in 2026 it can't.
 
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B+ level recruiter — still had one of the top classes portal + high school last year. Throwing the laugh emoji may make you feel better but I’d bet anyone unassociated with Kentucky basketball would be far more likely to agree with my assessment than y’all who die on the hill that he’s the worst recruiter in major conference basketball. I don’t believe in grading on a curve but I also don’t believe in cherry picking to “win” these pointless online arguments either. You have to convince yourself that every coach gets their first targets — they don’t. Pope has bigger fish to fry than recruiting but if you want to say he’s F recruiter that’s ok — do you. You’ll get all the likes and amens, but anyone objective or fair is going to think you have no credibility.
How’s the 2026 class looking?
 

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We have had the 5th ranked transfer portal class both years under Pope so far.
And thats where his focus needed to be, starting late and with zero players. He had a lot of success last year doing that making the S16 from scratch, and, without a few key injuries, he probably thought he could have made the FF. So he focused on the portal and had another top 5 class. He is a finalist for two of the top 5 HS players in the country. It has been reported we led on both players before they got a load of our JMI terms. Some people discount it, but can't disprove it. I don't think the man can't recruit, I think he is a very good recruiter. I just don't think he is Cal, who is the best recruiter of all time.
 
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How’s the 2026 class looking?
It’s terrible. We are running out of time and won’t be able to field a team . Farrr Pope!

Let’s go for all the simple cliche low hanging fruit ones:

“We are Kentucky!”

“We ain’t got no recruits!”

“We lost over 10 games.”

“We didnt make the final four.”

If you want my real opinions about recruiting, I’ll gladly share but let’s be real, Richie — you don’t care. You want to dunk on Pope and that’s all it is for you. No conversation needed, you just want the pat on the back so here it is: Farrrr Pope!
 

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bro we aren't even ranked and have gotten beat by 20-30 pts multiple times and have been down double digits in what seems like every game. this isn't 1993 anymore. you don't need 5 years to be good. having a bad hire doesn't do anything to you. with NIL all you need is 1 year. stop pearl clutching.

#loveMYcoach
 
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It’s terrible. We are running out of time and won’t be able to field a team . Farrr Pope!

Let’s go for all the simple cliche low hanging fruit ones:

“We are Kentucky!”

“We ain’t got no recruits!”

“We lost over 10 games.”

“We didnt make the final four.”

If you want my real opinions about recruiting, I’ll gladly share but let’s be real, Richie — you don’t care. You want to dunk on Pope and that’s all it is for you. No conversation needed, you just want the pat on the back so here it is: Farrrr Pope!
You've really went off the deep end with the girldad stuff.