Half of Big Ten Athletic Departments lost millions in 2024; Indiana, OSU both lost $37M. Rutgers $70M. UCLA $83M!

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This table was recently released and made headlines: profitability by AD from 2022-2024. Northwestern & U$C aren’t listed as private schools, but wow.

Nebraska is consistently profitable and appears to be the best managed Athletic Department, while OSU’s profits declined by $60M!

Meanwhile viewership of the B1G Network is declining, contract renewal is up for renegotiation in 2030, and both Michigag & O$U will be asking why they make the same TV revenues as us and Rutgers.

Even if the B1G doesn’t end, I guarantee the revenue sharing model will change in a few years. Interesting times - will the B1G survive?

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techtim72

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I really dislike these sorts of figures that do not explain how they are calculated although I read another thread here that was explanatory of the NCAA reporting. Included among other items donations, scholarships and at least some accounting for capital costs. However, assuming that the methodology has remained consistent over time for each school, the takeaway is that the "profitability" has dramatically declined in the past two years, probably but not definitively because of the advent of revenue sharing and NIL. Ouch. Doesn't appear sustainable.
 

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My goodness what is Rutgers doing?
There was a large article about it


Their biggest issue is their donation revenue is disastrous: less than $10 M a year. The average Big Ten team averages over $38 M a year! That’s a $30M hole right off the bat and most of their actual deficit (the $78 M deficit figure doesn’t account for the fact that they’ve got $30M in revenue from the school’s general fund, student fees, and a direct state appropriation). They also have less than $10 M a year in football ticket revenue, which is really bad. So their revenue and support is simply a disaster, they don’t have the support or fan base to be a Big Ten team, frankly.

It doesn’t help that they’re one of the programs with a pretty significant amount of facility construction debt. When you don’t have donors and try to engage in a building explosion based on fantasies of generating revenues that don’t materialize… it’s bad. Having a rich guy to put all the money up front when you build stuff is a lot better.
 

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This table was recently released and made headlines: profitability by AD from 2022-2024. Northwestern & U$C aren’t listed as private schools, but wow.

Nebraska is consistently profitable and appears to be the best managed Athletic Department, while OSU’s profits declined by $60M!

Meanwhile viewership of the B1G Network is declining, contract renewal is up for renegotiation in 2030, and both Michigag & O$U will be asking why they make the same TV revenues as us and Rutgers.

Even if the B1G doesn’t end, I guarantee the revenue sharing model will change in a few years. Interesting times - will the B1G survive?

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I am guessing that the West Coast programs are not yet getting a full share and they were not even in the BIG the years in question, It also likely depends on what is being included and how, Thought I saw in another post where Rutgers losses included student fees and other contributions as part of the deficit, These items are typically part of the income side and more a matter of where the funds come from, Does not really make sense how it was presented..
 

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This table was recently released and made headlines: profitability by AD from 2022-2024. Northwestern & U$C aren’t listed as private schools, but wow.

Nebraska is consistently profitable and appears to be the best managed Athletic Department, while OSU’s profits declined by $60M!

Meanwhile viewership of the B1G Network is declining, contract renewal is up for renegotiation in 2030, and both Michigag & O$U will be asking why they make the same TV revenues as us and Rutgers.

Even if the B1G doesn’t end, I guarantee the revenue sharing model will change in a few years. Interesting times - will the B1G survive?

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Many years ago I was involved with the NCAA, and so I paid a lot of attention to these types of numbers. Rutgers ran the largest deficits in the country year after year (around $20 million); way worse than the next school. Their President said it was unsustainable and they were going to correct it. But each year it has gotten worse. I don’t know how they can keep absorbing these losses. The big caveat though is that there is a lot of leeway/hand waving in terms of how capital costs and overhead are allocated from school to school, but it seems hard to imagine how this can continue at Rutgers or even UCLA.
 

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Many years ago I was involved with the NCAA, and so I paid a lot of attention to these types of numbers. Rutgers ran the largest deficits in the country year after year (around $20 million); way worse than the next school. Their President said it was unsustainable and they were going to correct it. But each year it has gotten worse. I don’t know how they can keep absorbing these losses. The big caveat though is that there is a lot of leeway/hand waving in terms of how capital costs and overhead are allocated from school to school, but it seems hard to imagine how this can continue at Rutgers or even UCLA.
Yeah, Rutgers has been doing this **** for literally decades. They’re a weird school l. And UCLA has had bad issues for a long time too. It’s interesting how their issues dwarf everyone else.
And the accounting is indeed weird. Like, I am extremely confident Ohio State, supposedly the third largest losing program, is doing more than fine. Now, maybe that’s just because the school is comping all the scholarships or something, but there is a mix of real problems and odd math in table
 
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Many years ago I was involved with the NCAA, and so I paid a lot of attention to these types of numbers. Rutgers ran the largest deficits in the country year after year (around $20 million); way worse than the next school. Their President said it was unsustainable and they were going to correct it. But each year it has gotten worse. I don’t know how they can keep absorbing these losses. The big caveat though is that there is a lot of leeway/hand waving in terms of how capital costs and overhead are allocated from school to school, but it seems hard to imagine how this can continue at Rutgers or even UCLA.
Rutgers has a $6B annual budget, and when you subtract out the student fees & other things they state this only represents 2-3% of their annual spend.

Still, how the hell are they spending this much?
 

hdhntr1

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Rutgers has a $6B annual budget, and when you subtract out the student fees & other things they state this only represents 2-3% of their annual spend.

Still, how the hell are they spending this much?
It is government. Government means lots of corruption, Still need to ask?
 

AdamOnFirst

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Rutgers has a $6B annual budget, and when you subtract out the student fees & other things they state this only represents 2-3% of their annual spend.

Still, how the hell are they spending this much?
I actually don’t know if their expenses are out of line or not, but their revenue is definitely low. It seems like it’s mostly the revenue. No support, no fans, no donors. You’re toast.
 

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I actually don’t know if their expenses are out of line or not, but their revenue is definitely low. It seems like it’s mostly the revenue. No support, no fans, no donors. You’re toast.
Their new AD said the same thing. Basically it’s a revenue issue and they’re aggressively working on that (promos, partnerships, brand deals etc)
 
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AdamOnFirst

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Typical government. Never actually solve the problem because then the politicians have nothing to run on. If they truly wanted it solved, it would be
I agree with you philosophically, but higher education is it's own special protected cloister of stupid... and college athletics is it's own almost totally separate thing beyond that.
 

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I agree with you philosophically, but higher education is it's own special protected cloister of stupid... and college athletics is it's own almost totally separate thing beyond that.
In general academic institutions are either part of government or very government like. I consider them an extension Just think, they are supposed to be non profit
 
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