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NYShoreGuy

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Mountain West
WCC
A10
Possibly MAC
All look like multiple bid leagues.
ACC
Big 12
Big Ten
SEC
Those four are gonna get 20 to 24 at large bids.
Will Big East have good metrics and quality teams beyond top 3?
 
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Long way to go. We're now barely over the halfway BE season mark for example. Still 9 games to go. It's there for us. I would feel good if we finish the RS at 22-9, 12-8 if we get one of these wins: at Connecticut, at Villanova, St. John's.

But let's face it, we are not good enough to be more than like an #8-#10 seed tops, IMO, but still, getting back into the NCAAT would be very exciting for this program after last year, the near-miss in 2024, and the collapse in 2023. Glad to be relevant.

Up to The Hall to earn being the 4th BE team.
 
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At this point I'd say 3 and maybe we are the 4th. Lots of time left. Who has the best chance after us?
 
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I’m not an expert with all the brakettology and they usually move the goalposts or criteria each year.

I feel even if we go 22 wins like one poster said, w have to arguably make BE tourney semifinal to get a really good chance at a bid though again it’s hard cause there can be BS bracket busters like in 2024 or just some BS corruption NCAA will do to corruptly put an undeserving sec or ACC team over us because of their so called SOS, NET metrics or whatever.

Being realistic team has to win one against UCONN, Nova, or St. John’s.

a UCONN win can be even very valuable though it didn’t in 2024.

Preferably you get a UCONN upset and one of St. John’s and Nova and add you have to win every game that you should beat though again being realistic with how we have played lately.

I think in the end, team has to treat everything like December football.

Have to take every game seriously and win one game at a time.

I think I worry even making a semis in big east tournament, our wins to get there might not mean much to the metrics so we might even have to go for BE final for a safe bid, but that’s the reality of the situation we are in I guess.

I hope Nc state continues to look more good for our resume and one of butler, Creighton, and possibly DePaul look good for our resume thought that can mean more competition.
 
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NC St is our only quality win. The way we are playing now, we do not remotely resemble a tournament team. I am just hoping that we are surviving at this point, and we start to play better shortly.
 
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BE is 3 teams in and 3 teams with a chance.

Right now, we are squarely on the bubble. Butler and Creighton are further behind us but still alive.

We have 9 games left, 5 are currently Quad 1 Games. If we finish 6-3 that means at least 2 Q1 wins plus NC State, would put us in most likely.

That said, 9 games is an eternity and so much can happen. Have to focus on the next game which is a huge opportunity at Nova. Very tough stretch coming up with 3 of 4 on the road including 2 Midwest games @ Creighton and @ Butler.
 
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I can't see more than 4 teams getting in unless someone comes alive between now and the end of the BET. The league is just too weak this year
 
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phelanma

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PirateBlue08 said:
I can't see more than 4 teams getting in unless someone comes alive between now and the end of the BET. The league is just too weak this year
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Only way BIG EAST gets more than 4 is if we finish strong, make BET senifinal/final and a suprising team wins be team wins BET
 
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It looks to me that we go 4-5 in remaining games and finish 10-10 for regular season. Need 2 wins in BET to get in NCAA.
 
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Watching USC vs Rutgers, they are an incredibly disorganized team. Interesting how the top four Maui teams have been very up and down since to put it nicely. USC was hideous down the stretch against RU. Very lucky to win.
 
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Pirate Russ said:
NC St is our only quality win. The way we are playing now, we do not remotely resemble a tournament team. I am just hoping that we are surviving at this point, and we start to play better shortly.
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Just realize there 34 at-large bids to be awarded. There’s room for teams in Seton Hall’s neighborhood.
 
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bigraym

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Let's just start with a road win @ Nova Wednesday...always know the NCAA will never do our Pirates any favors. :mad:
 
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Seton hall needs to win one game vs the big 3 in the conference. I’m not confident a game like today improves the NET. Quad 3 wins at home are the bare minimum. We have to improve the NET by about 10 points. We need a big win or 2 along the way
 
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Villanova should be on the bubble. Decent win on a neutral court vs Wisconsin. They lost to UConn, St John’s, & Creighton. Wins @ Hall & @ butler. Not a whole lot there
 
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lloyde dobler said:
Watching USC vs Rutgers, they are an incredibly disorganized team. Interesting how the top four Maui teams have been very up and down since to put it nicely. USC was hideous down the stretch against RU. Very lucky to win.
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Think it’s safe to say the Maui invitational was filled with mediocre to poor teams for the most part. That combined with a 1 win B12 team and a 2 win B10 team has killed our strength of schedule. It’s another obstacle to overcome to get to the NCAAs
 
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Think it’s safe to say the Maui invitational was filled with mediocre to poor teams for the most part. That combined with a 1 win B12 team and a 2 win B10 team has killed our strength of schedule. It’s another obstacle to overcome to get to the NCAAs
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Maui was a good -- not great -- field. We probably maximized our trip given that NC State and USC are arguably the two best teams we could have played. Texas has a higher NET than USC but I'm not convinced they're better.

Kansas State for all its flaws still has a better NET than five BE teams. What really kills our SOS is all the 200 + NET teams we played. We're fortunate Washington State is above 150 given they don't have a Q1 or Q2 win.

The good news is we control our destiny. Go grab a win on Wednesday and we're in better shape.
 
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Fishjam said:
BE is 3 teams in and 3 teams with a chance.

Right now, we are squarely on the bubble. Butler and Creighton are further behind us but still alive.

We have 9 games left, 5 are currently Quad 1 Games. If we finish 6-3 that means at least 2 Q1 wins plus NC State, would put us in most likely.

That said, 9 games is an eternity and so much can happen. Have to focus on the next game which is a huge opportunity at Nova. Very tough stretch coming up with 3 of 4 on the road including 2 Midwest games @ Creighton and @ Butler.
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It will be interesting to see. We are truly an extreme and you see it within games. To be the BE's 2nd-best defense (by a wide margin) and worst offense is quite the sight to behold.

I think we have an NCAAT team in here somewhere when you look at the different player combos Holloway uses when we look great in these second halves, but it's not shown enough. He's not adjusting the start and if that doesn't get resolved somehow by either sudden player improvement or a new mix, we feel like a .500 team because we're lacking full game consistency. That's already why we're 6-5 instead of better and having some cushion.
 
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We’re winning games but we definitely aren’t impressing the committee. If it comes down to a side by side they are going to pick the team that is playing like a tourney team. Not the team with the most wins.

Win @ Nova and split @ UConn/ St Johns and we should be close to safe.

Lose @ Nova and we have to win @ both UConn and St Johns or we’ll be easily out.
 
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HallGuy2323 said:
We’re winning games but we definitely aren’t impressing the committee. If it comes down to a side by side they are going to pick the team that is playing like a tourney team. Not the team with the most wins.

Win @ Nova and split @ UConn/ St Johns and we should be close to safe.

Lose @ Nova and we have to win @ both UConn and St Johns or we’ll be easily out.
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Two ways to look at it. I'd say the Butler game is the bad loss. DePaul at their place is not good, but not horrific like its been in the past. One thing that really stands out for Seton Hall is the defensive record. SHU has only given up 70 points or more four times so far this season. Only once in the 80's to USC (The Foulathon) and only two times in conference play to Marquette and Butler. That's against some very potent offensive teams. Not sure many teams in the country can say that. UConn the same, but they have given up 80 points or more three times. Quite an impressive stat for The Hall. Something for the committee to take note of.
 
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TheHall87 said:
Maui was a good -- not great -- field. We probably maximized our trip given that NC State and USC are arguably the two best teams we could have played. Texas has a higher NET than USC but I'm not convinced they're better.

Kansas State for all its flaws still has a better NET than five BE teams. What really kills our SOS is all the 200 + NET teams we played. We're fortunate Washington State is above 150 given they don't have a Q1 or Q2 win.

The good news is we control our destiny. Go grab a win on Wednesday and we're in better shape.
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If you can say you think USC is better than Texas despite NET, I'm going to say Xavier, Providence, Georgetown and Depaul all look better than KSU. KSU looks like a team that has completely checked out.
 
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The bottom line is Seton Hall must get some quality wins by Selection Sunday. They have mainly taken care of business one way or another. Hall probably need 7 or 8 wins by SS with at least two being Quad 1 victories. Best chances are Nova on Wed and SJU at home. Try to stay away from UConn at MSG in the Semis.
 
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lloyde dobler said:
Seton Hall vs Creighton in a must-win BET 4 vs 5 game?
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Could be, but we've seen before how that story plays out and how even winning a game like that in the conference tourney might not move the needle, especially if a few bid stealers emerge. Two years ago we thought the 4/5 game in the BE tournament against SJU was going to shore up a bid for one of the teams, and it didn't in either case. Bid stealers hurt us, and SJU was even farther removed than what folks projected for the same reason and early season struggles, despite having metrics that profiled for a dance team.
 
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TheHall87 said:
Maui was a good -- not great -- field. We probably maximized our trip given that NC State and USC are arguably the two best teams we could have played. Texas has a higher NET than USC but I'm not convinced they're better.

Kansas State for all its flaws still has a better NET than five BE teams. What really kills our SOS is all the 200 + NET teams we played. We're fortunate Washington State is above 150 given they don't have a Q1 or Q2 win.

The good news is we control our destiny. Go grab a win on Wednesday and we're in better shape.
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I think "good" is charitable for that field. Look at the Players Era field, or whatever the hell that thing is called. The positive though is the NC State W seems like it is going to hold up the whole year. That was huge because I don't think beating anyone else in that tournament would have done us any good.
 
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This is the worst version of the Big East I've seen. You have one great team, one very good team, and one solid team. Then everybody else. What hurts though is that like most high major leagues, teams at the bottom are talented enough on a given night to knock off anyone. Providence, as one example, has far, far better talent than what is a last place team in this years Big East. Hence why the job Kim English has done is absurd. But on the right day Providence can play with and beat most everyone.

Even in the infamous selection Sunday two years ago when only the 3 Big East locks made the dance, and us, SJU and Providence were left home, the latter 3 are night and day better than the majority of the league this year.
 
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HallGuy2323 said:
We’re winning games but we definitely aren’t impressing the committee. If it comes down to a side by side they are going to pick the team that is playing like a tourney team. Not the team with the most wins.

Win @ Nova and split @ UConn/ St Johns and we should be close to safe.

Lose @ Nova and we have to win @ both UConn and St Johns or we’ll be easily out.
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Not an easy task...
 
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