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At least on the old board I would have gotten to watch Mitch react to this.
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SOMEONE CALL????

Couple comments and several observations...
This year's portal crop was a huge whiff.
And that's being generous.
Nearly every Iowa guy is undersized for their weight.
Estrada is gonna be another midget if the plan is having him at 157.
Kennedy is a brawler, but again, too short.
Arnold would be fine at 165, but too short for anything heavier.
Angelo will transfer next season.
Ludington won't do crap here. Overrated and will never develop with Telford .
BK only wins when there is zero pressure.
Watching him wrestle is like watching paint dry.
Vastly overpaid NIL. And he's going to fail in football as well.
Looks like a lazy bum that does as little as possible. HEAD CASE

Asst coaches should have been replaced 5 years ago.
At this point, I'm guessing over 50% of the fan base won't care if TnT are back.
APATHY HAS TAKEN OVER

I'm finished watching this shiit.
 
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pickr374 said:
he admitted to 2 guys just quitting? wow...at least he didn't lead with the "we like our guys" bs....I'd assume he was directing that at the Little Rock guys....I think they should just be done with them...they got their money...move on...they give up between 6-8 team points every weekend anyway (it seems), and they are constantly hurt...although, being hurt in the Iowa program is expected.


Where is Estrada and Deluca? Waiting for the portal?
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He went on to say something along the lines of having the guys in the room to compete...

Ironside tried to lighten the mood by talking about Drake. Had a lengthy conversation with him leaving the arena. I did not bring up my thoughts on the program but discussed his disappointment with the effort after a decent showing at Nebraska. He was especially baffled with Blocks lack of competing.
 
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pickr374 said:
he admitted to 2 guys just quitting? wow...at least he didn't lead with the "we like our guys" bs....I'd assume he was directing that at the Little Rock guys....I think they should just be done with them...they got their money...move on...they give up between 6-8 team points every weekend anyway (it seems), and they are constantly hurt...although, being hurt in the Iowa program is expected.


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Estrada weighed in tonight. Deluca is still banged up from NDI in November
 
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He was fired/not renewed after losing 7 duals in a season as head wrestling coach. What are you talking about better wrestler? It’s about him being a coach.

“As we do each year with every sport, we have completed an evaluation of all aspects of our wrestling program. This year's process comes in the aftermath of one of our least successful dual meet seasons in recent history and after our lowest finish in the Big Ten Championship in 39 years," said Bowlsby.”

Zalesky out as Iowa wrestling 14317

Zalesky out as Iowa wrestling coach
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Nashville_Hawk said:
He went to Lincoln last weekend...for good. Poor guy doesn't want to be part of this **** show. Drake, Cali, PK all leave after this season...and who's left to build a team with AF?
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Brands stay...guessing everybody leaves....unless the donor wants/can convince guys to stay

Brands termed....everybody leaves.

Its a lose lose situation...might as well get it over with...let him go. The savior has stuck around long enough to become the villian.
 
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Andrewrayhons said:
Beth actually sat right behind me tonight, and she didn't look all that happy at the end of the meet.

She took in the crowd leaving after Harvey lost, and you could tell it affected her. I think she sees what needs to be done, and is willing to do it.eeeee
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We can only hope. The bottom line is this team and this program is mediocre by any standard and **** by Iowa wrestling standards. No amount of verbal ******** from the staff is going to change it. There was some already tooting the we are back horn after last week and I said that match changed nothing and tonight is exactly why. They not only could not sustain good wrestling for a week, they reached a new low. This was the straw that broke the camel's back. The product doesn't justify keeping socially engaging coaches let alone put up with all the embarrassing stuff TnT bring to the table. That crap isn't cute or funny when you stink. The recruiting has been bad for years, the effort is bad, the technical ability is bad. There is no light at the end of the tunnel with this staff in charge. It's over!
 
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jayridescarbon said:
Give him a break. He’s out in the cold dark night right now moving the goalposts.
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BrianLafevre said:
Leave MSU out of this
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I love that I live inside so many chrome domes. Sadly, I didn’t watch so I really can’t comment about the meet itself. What I can say is the group they put on the mat better not be what they put on the mat in March. Peterson makes a giant difference at 125, Ferrari has to be at 184 and Mo no longer manning 197 is crushing.

What I can say is this is the FIRST year under Brands where they haven’t been awesome in duals and the same people complaining now didn’t care one bit about that. They concentrated solely on March, ignoring that they basically never lose a dual to anyone but PSU.

This year they seem nowhere near as focused on duals and are sending out multiple backups. Maybe that is part of the plan or maybe they aren’t that good. March will tell the tale.

As I said before, if they falter in March, you guys can burn it all down on here and you won’t see me on here trying to stand in the way…
 
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MSU158 said:
I love that I live inside so many chrome domes. Sadly, I didn’t watch so I really can’t comment about the meet itself. What I can say is the group they put on the mat better not be what they put on the mat in March. Peterson makes a giant difference at 125, Ferrari has to be at 184 and Mo no longer manning 197 is crushing.

What I can say is this is the FIRST year under Brands where they haven’t been awesome in duals and the same people complaining now didn’t care one bit about that. They concentrated solely on March, ignoring that they basically never lose a dual to anyone but PSU.

This year they seem nowhere near as focused on duals and are sending out multiple backups. Maybe that is part of the plan or maybe they aren’t that good. March will tell the tale.

As I said before, if they falter in March, you guys can burn it all down on here and you won’t see me on here trying to stand in the way…
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This is what you have been saying. I think that is fair.
 
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Trapper85 said:
Point taken, but grit, determination, mental toughness, and being in top shape is not all on the coaches.
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I would say all those things are on the coaches. Conditioning for sure, but also motivation, strategy and competition via depth. If kids don't want to wrestle for Brands, that is a brands problem.

Prety sure Iowa has money and a historic reputation with top notch facilities. Kids are not choosing Iowa because of Brands. The Program needs new blood with new approaches. Losing 6 or 7 duels is rock bottom.
 
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MSU158 said:
I love that I live inside so many chrome domes. Sadly, I didn’t watch so I really can’t comment about the meet itself. What I can say is the group they put on the mat better not be what they put on the mat in March. Peterson makes a giant difference at 125, Ferrari has to be at 184 and Mo no longer manning 197 is crushing.

What I can say is this is the FIRST year under Brands where they haven’t been awesome in duals and the same people complaining now didn’t care one bit about that. They concentrated solely on March, ignoring that they basically never lose a dual to anyone but PSU.

This year they seem nowhere near as focused on duals and are sending out multiple backups. Maybe that is part of the plan or maybe they aren’t that good. March will tell the tale.

As I said before, if they falter in March, you guys can burn it all down on here and you won’t see me on here trying to stand in the way…
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So let me get this right. We as a fan base are supposed to suffer through a horrific dual season, but if we finish in the top 3-4 in March we are supposed to erect a statue outside of Carver to celebrate your I told you so!! I speak for myself only but I for one will not be celebrating another third or fourth place finish.
 
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MSU158 said:
I love that I live inside so many chrome domes. Sadly, I didn’t watch so I really can’t comment about the meet itself. What I can say is the group they put on the mat better not be what they put on the mat in March. Peterson makes a giant difference at 125, Ferrari has to be at 184 and Mo no longer manning 197 is crushing.

What I can say is this is the FIRST year under Brands where they haven’t been awesome in duals and the same people complaining now didn’t care one bit about that. They concentrated solely on March, ignoring that they basically never lose a dual to anyone but PSU.

This year they seem nowhere near as focused on duals and are sending out multiple backups. Maybe that is part of the plan or maybe they aren’t that good. March will tell the tale.

As I said before, if they falter in March, you guys can burn it all down on here and you won’t see me on here trying to stand in the way…
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The only space you take up in anyone’s minds is that of insignificant annoyance. Similar to a bug being squished by the bottom of a new pair of shoes.

But, you know more about college wrestling than Ben Askren.
 
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Andrewrayhons said:
Beth actually sat right behind me tonight, and she didn't look all that happy at the end of the meet.

She took in the crowd leaving after Harvey lost, and you could tell it affected her. I think she sees what needs to be done, and is willing to do it.
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This feels a lot like b-ball with Fran last year. I’m a bigger bball fan and my buddies kept asking me as season wore on and I was like it’s time for a change. Apathy had set in amongst fans and even with die hards. He just wasn’t meeting what were reasonable expectations.

obviously Iowa wrestling standards 100x higher but my friends that are season tix holders and huge followers are leaving early and 3 of them defending TnT for long time says it’s time to move on that is telling to me. When you lose those fans really tough to come back from that and just like bball nothing indicating next year will be any better.
 
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Trapper85 said:
Point taken, but grit, determination, mental toughness, and being in top shape is not all on the coaches.
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I think it kind of is though. Not to necessarily instill those traits, but maybe identify them. Thats why this staff has for the most part failed in recruiting, and failed with the portal. Make a lot of decisions based off of some recent results. Its a lazy way to go about things. Especially now. So much information is out there. Its not hard to do a little research, and get better insight on what character traits these guys possess.
 
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BrianLafevre said:
The only space you take up in anyone’s minds is that of insignificant annoyance. Similar to a bug being squished by the bottom of a new pair of shoes.

But, you know more about college wrestling than Ben Askren.
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And yet my name keeps getting mentioned when I am not in the conversation. Interesting logic…

Also, I never said I knew more than Askren. I simply made a point that there was no guarantee he knows what is best for Iowa or really even truly cares what is best for them. After that, with all the kicks and punches to the head, along with having major organs removed and replaced, questioning someone treating his word on the subject as gospel, is absolutely warranted.

But, hey, I am such an insignificant annoyance that you shouldn’t need to respond nor care so much about anything I post, right?
 
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STtiger2025 said:
So let me get this right. We as a fan base are supposed to suffer through a horrific dual season, but if we finish in the top 3-4 in March we are supposed to erect a statue outside of Carver to celebrate your I told you so!! I speak for myself only but I for one will not be celebrating another third or fourth place finish.
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My point was more about the hypocrisy the past few years. Iowa has been great in duals pretty much the entire time under Brands. Still, every single detractor 100% ignored that and said all that matters is March.

Now, they are losing duals, putting out multiple back ups, and the sky is falling. Which is it? If they have 2 or 3 guys in the finals and 6 or 7 AA’s does that now not matter because they didn’t have a great dual season?

Mind you, I am actually putting it out there for me to be wrong. What we are seeing in the duals could be what we see in March. If that is the case, I already said I will back down. But, if they have a really good March, can those that ignored dual results in years prior back down or will the hypocrisy rear up?
 
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MSU158 said:
And yet my name keeps getting mentioned when I am not in the conversation. Interesting logic…

Also, I never said I knew more than Askren. I simply made a point that there was no guarantee he knows what is best for Iowa or really even truly cares what is best for them. After that, with all the kicks and punches to the head, along with having major organs removed and replaced, questioning someone treating his word on the subject as gospel, is absolutely warranted.

But, hey, I am such an insignificant annoyance that you shouldn’t need to respond nor care so much about anything I post, right?
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Here’s your post where you say you know more about college wrestling than Ben Askren

because he’s never been a head coach (he’s been an assistant) and you claim to have more experience at dealing with admin, donors, fans…?, and scheduling…

You also tried to say he needs to be a program insider or connected to the program in some way to essentially have a valid opinion on Iowa’s problems…

Now you are trying to say you didn’t say what you said.
 
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MSU158 said:
My point was more about the hypocrisy the past few years. Iowa has been great in duals pretty much the entire time under Brands. Still, every single detractor 100% ignored that and said all that matters is March.

Now, they are losing duals, putting out multiple back ups, and the sky is falling. Which is it? If they have 2 or 3 guys in the finals and 6 or 7 AA’s does that now not matter because they didn’t have a great dual season?

Mind you, I am actually putting it out there for me to be wrong. What we are seeing in the duals could be what we see in March. If that is the case, I already said I will back down. But, if they have a really good March, can those that ignored dual results in years prior back down or will the hypocrisy rear up?
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It's a shame you have schedule conflicts during losses. I enjoy your in match commentary during wins.
 
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BrianLafevre said:
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Here’s your post where you say you know more about college wrestling than Ben Askren

because he’s never been a head coach (he’s been an assistant) and you claim to have more experience at dealing with admin, donors, fans…?, and scheduling…

You also tried to say he needs to be a program insider or connected to the program in some way to essentially have a valid opinion on Iowa’s problems…

Now you are trying to say you didn’t say what you said.
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You may need to take a reading comprehension course. Tell me where I said I know more. Please highlight the specific area. I made a very valid point that he has ZERO experience dealing with the things I listed. Now, that doesn’t mean he doesn’t know more than me.

What it DOES mean is exactly what I said in the post you just responded to. That, along with my adding in that a flying knee to the head, nearly dying and having his internal organs played with like the game Operation, doesn’t really put him to the forefront of people I would look to for what is best for Iowa.

Hell, that doesn’t even take into account the open disdain he has for Iowa…
 
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MSU158 said:
My point was more about the hypocrisy the past few years. Iowa has been great in duals pretty much the entire time under Brands. Still, every single detractor 100% ignored that and said all that matters is March.

Now, they are losing duals, putting out multiple back ups, and the sky is falling. Which is it? If they have 2 or 3 guys in the finals and 6 or 7 AA’s does that now not matter because they didn’t have a great dual season?

Mind you, I am actually putting it out there for me to be wrong. What we are seeing in the duals could be what we see in March. If that is the case, I already said I will back down. But, if they have a really good March, can those that ignored dual results in years prior back down or will the hypocrisy rear up?
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Give us your qualifications for a failure in March so you can’t move the goalposts like everyone says you do. How many AA, champs, and team place will it take for you to say “ok this meets expectations for Iowa and for me.”
 
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You may need to take a reading comprehension course. Tell me where I said I know more. Please highlight the specific area. I made a very valid point that he has ZERO experience dealing with the things I listed. Now, that doesn’t mean he doesn’t know more than me.

What it DOES mean is exactly what I said in the post you just responded to. That, along with my adding in that a flying knee to the head, nearly dying and having his internal organs played with like the game Operation, doesn’t really put him to the forefront of people I would look to for what is best for Iowa.

Hell, that doesn’t even take into account the open disdain he has for Iowa…
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No need for a reading comprehension course,

I dared you to say you know more about college wrestling than Ben Askren.

You stated - “he certainly isn’t more experienced at administrators, donors, fans, scheduling and a list that can continue for several more pages…”
 
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PUR158 said:
It's a shame you have schedule conflicts during losses. I enjoy your in match commentary during wins.
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I simply haven’t watched near as much wrestling live this season. I found a renewed interest in a hobby/second job that has drawn me away from regular season dual meets, especially most Friday nights.

I actually watched the Nebraska dual live so I could speak on it then. The rest I try to catch up on, after the fact, when I can.

I am sorry if I don’t provide my stalkers with enough of my presence in the evenings. Guess you will just have to live with what you get earlier in the day!
 
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BrianLafevre said:
No need for a reading comprehension course,

I dared you to say you know more about college wrestling than Ben Askren.

You stated - “he certainly isn’t more experienced at administrators, donors, fans, scheduling and a list that can continue for several more pages…”
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And where does that say I know more? Try hard to focus and read….
 
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Tiltman said:
Give us your qualifications for a failure in March so you can’t move the goalposts like everyone says you do. How many AA, champs, and team place will it take for you to say “ok this meets expectations for Iowa and for me.”
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He said top 3. I'm holding him to that. If Iowa doesn't finish the NCAA tournament in top 3 MSU is going to agree a change needs to be made. Is this correct MSU?
 
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Tiltman said:
Give us your qualifications for a failure in March so you can’t move the goalposts like everyone says you do. How many AA, champs, and team place will it take for you to say “ok this meets expectations for Iowa and for me.”
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I don’t move a thing. In fact, I dig my feet in harder than anyone here and THAT is where I draw the ire from. Some posters get mad enough that they deflect with crap like that, but it isn’t true…

As far as Iowa goes, I expect at least 6 AA’s and 2 Finalists. If they fall just short of that, I am not going to blast them for it, but I would say that had a decent March and wouldn’t argue with those that said decent isn’t good enough.

So, 6 AA’s with 2 Finalists or all 6 in the top 5, would be the bottom bar for a good March. If they still had Mo, I would raise that bar a smidge…
 
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BrianLafevre said:
Wow… this is truly like talking to a child.

So are you admitting you know less about wrestling(college or otherwise) than Ben Askren?
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I love the constant ad hominem attacks. But, I am the child?

I am happy to say Askren knows more about wrestling than me even if he now has a hard time completing full sentences. That was never the damn point and yet another deflection from you over the ACTUAL point of the conversation.

Nothing said here changes the fact that he isn’t near the valued opinion you want him to be for what is best for Iowa wrestling…
 
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I don’t move a thing. In fact, I dig my feet in harder than anyone here and THAT is where I draw the ire from. Some posters get mad enough that they deflect with crap like that, but it isn’t true…

As far as Iowa goes, I expect at least 6 AA’s and 2 Finalists. If they fall just short of that, I am not going to blast them for it, but I would say that had a decent March and wouldn’t argue with those that said decent isn’t good enough.

So, 6 AA’s with 2 Finalists or all 6 in the top 5, would be the bottom bar for a good March. If they still had Mo, I would raise that bar a smidge…
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