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chroix

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Man if only we had that history and past success against Vanderbilt we would have kicked their ***..

Some fans just choose to accept the losing way. They would rather stay on that side of the fence before they get with the new way of things. Let’s stay the laughing stock! We have tradition to be proud of!! If we miss the tournament it’s ok because we’ve won it before!

It’s a sad state out program is in imo.

Edit. I never said we should forget our history or take that away. I was just saying… recruits aren’t looking at our history. Players are choosing coaches not schools.
If you’re implying I’d side with tradition over winning you’re high on your on supply bro. I get your point I just think you framed it in a stupid way. Should we ignore our history? If you answer no then this is a dumb way of framing this thread. The fact that we’re not the “cool school” does not mean that our history and tradition are not an asset.
 

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If you’re implying I’d side with tradition over winning you’re high on your on supply bro. I get your point I just think you framed it in a stupid way. Should we ignore our history? If you answer no then this is a dumb way of framing this thread. The fact that we’re not the “cool school” does not mean that our history and tradition are not an asset.
Dumb? Help me make it better.


All I mean is we as fans know what Kentucky is. These kids don’t. Yea they know we are a good program based off of past success. We need to be a top destination. This dorky coach we got is gonna set us back before basketball was created.

I think anybody understands my point. I can’t imagine reading a post from a fan with an opinion and spend more time trying to break down how what they said is dumb.
I usually just read and either reply or don’t. I’ve never really understood anybody on here that just says hey you’re dumb. Hey that’s a dumb point you made.


Just disagree and debate or tell your opinion.

I think we are a school with the best tradition in the country. Currently we are a joke now. You don’t have to take away anything.

Take or leave the past success and tradition. We are a joke today at the current moment. Maybe some don’t think so. We should ask what all the recruits think that are on the way. I’ll wait for the first one to commit.
 
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If you go there any you’d know the upgrades were much needed and way over due. Entire upper level was bleacher seating and crammed so small ppl would end up without a seat because each bleacher seat number was 14 inches wide. Now it’s almost completely chair backs with enough room that if you paid for a seat you get it and aren’t in the aisle stairs because there was no room in the bleacher seats or worse yet couldn’t even stand on the stairs for lack of room. It didn’t fit the 23.5-24k for basketball properly now that people are bigger than they were when Rupp was originally built. It’s still much larger than 99.9% of college arenas and twice as big as some of the top teams currently. Rupp isn’t the problem.
I've been to tons of games in the upper deck. And yea I'd take #1 largest arena in the country over a seatback. This isn't an Opera and that reasoning is one of the reasons Kentucky isn't #1 toughest places to play. Being bigger than 99% isn't nearly as big of a sell as being THE biggest, it's exponential. Just the constant watering down of Kentucky basketball and saying "oh it was needed" or "oh well at least we are still top 10 in capacity" Nah, F that. Should always strive to be #1 or we are going to be mediocre. There is a reason it's called a slippery "slope," because it continues to go down. And if you're too fat to fit in a bleacher seat (which tons of arenas and stadiums still have btw) than that is your problem. But sure let's make the Kentucky brand lesser and worse because of some fat asses.
 
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I mean, we are little more than a year removed from having the one of the top recruiting classes, which we had annually for year. Im fact, we were mostly 1 or 2.

Now it's about money, which we were evidently willing to spend more than anyone else.

They will continue to focus on money, and the elite will also focus on who can get them to the league fastest.
Just need a new coach that can relate to young people. That’s the least we can do if we aren’t gonna fix the real issues.
 

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I don't know if it's so much age as some of the middle aged and older coaches are still recruiting well. We just need someone with the track record.
Has nothing to do with age. You can be 90 and relate to young people if you are cool. Can’t be lame. Pope is the weirdest oddest human being we could have picked to be our head coach. Thanks Mitch
 
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kyjeff1

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No my point of the thread is I keep saying people say….. THIS IS KENTUCKY. Like that has power. What have you done for me lately.



I guess I can go watch the 2012 tape and relive it. Yea that’s cool. I want that feeling this season. Next season. Season after. I don’t wanna keep bragging about 2012 1998 1996.


It’s awesome to have those championships. We are a great program in the grand scheme of things. I’m not here to say how bad we are. I wanted to know what yall see to make yall say THIS IS KENTUCKY. And believe that’s supposed to make the top coach and players fall in our lap.
Titles aren’t everything when it comes to what makes a program great. Duke hasn't won a title since 2015 and one could argue UK was the big story that year.

I mean, what's the question here, is it "what makes UK special", or are you asking "what makes today's hs players want to go to UK"? Those are two completely different things.

If you want to know what todays players want, they want bigtime money and bigtime exposure. You get both of those things at UK. I don't think even duke and unc can match both.

And if they are enthralled with the NBA, well, who has more players in the NBA than UK?

As far as what puts UK above all other programs?

1) The fanbase is double the size of any other base you can mention. The BBN packs every arena and the BBN is directly responsible for the next 2.
2) Prime time games, most of our games are in the prime time slot on ESPN
3) Youtube is a big deal now. sleepers media, southeastern 16 and about 40 other channels pump UK, they have to, because the BBN moves the needle
4) Rupp is a cathedral, still one of the most exciting places to play
5) The biggest stage and the brightest lights
6) UK players are treated like celebrities and not just on campus.

I am sure there is more to this list, but I think I covered most of it.
 
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Titles aren’t everything when it comes to what makes a program great. Duke hasn't won a title since 2015 and one could argue UK was the big story that year.

I mean, what's the question here, is it "what makes UK special", or are you asking "what makes today's hs players want to go to UK"? Those are two completely different things.

If you want to know what todays players want, they want bigtime money and bigtime exposure. You get both of those things at UK. I don't think even duke and unc can match both.

And if they are enthralled with the NBA, well, who has more players in the NBA than UK?

As far as what puts UK above all other programs?

1) The fanbase is double the size of any other base you can mention. The BBN packs every arena and the BBN is directly responsible for the next 2.
2) Prime time games, most of our games are in the prime time slot on ESPN
3) Youtube is a big deal now. sleepers media, southeastern 16 and about 40 other channels pump UK, they have to, because the BBN moves the needle
4) Rupp is a cathedral, still one of the most exciting places to play
5) The biggest stage and the brightest lights
6) UK players are treated like celebrities and not just on campus.

I am sure there is more to this list, but I think I covered most of it.
The question is what makes a 17 year old say hey that’s the place I want to go play.

All of that tradition /big arena/ passionate fans means nothing with a coach like we have.


Also I’m not really asking anything. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of our fanbase.

We have big money? Guess what everybody has big money! We don’t have anything the next team or program don’t have besides the fans imo.

Kentucky isn’t 2012 Kentucky. We aren’t 2015 Kentucky. We aren’t 2021 Kentucky:

We are a laughing stock who hasn’t fired a joke of a coach yet because we aren’t the top destination.
 

chroix

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Dumb? Help me make it better.


All I mean is we as fans know what Kentucky is. These kids don’t. Yea they know we are a good program based off of past success. We need to be a top destination. This dorky coach we got is gonna set us back before basketball was created.

I think anybody understands my point. I can’t imagine reading a post from a fan with an opinion and spend more time trying to break down how what they said is dumb.
I usually just read and either reply or don’t. I’ve never really understood anybody on here that just says hey you’re dumb. Hey that’s a dumb point you made.


Just disagree and debate or tell your opinion.

I think we are a school with the best tradition in the country. Currently we are a joke now. You don’t have to take away anything.

Take or leave the past success and tradition. We are a joke today at the current moment. Maybe some don’t think so. We should ask what all the recruits think that are on the way. I’ll wait for the first one to commit.
This is a dumb argument but look at the position you insinuated on me and what sort of response do you expect. You cleaned it up at the end. The team sucks. The kids are mercenaries. Our coach is not inspiring in any way other than puppy dog feels. None of that takes away from the tradition.
 

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What does UK offer that puts them above everyone else?

We don’t even have the biggest gym anymore from what someone stated. Ik Syracuse always had a bigger one but they never filled it up.

I say the fanbase is the biggest. That’s the only thing I can think of.


Someone tell me what a 17 year old recruit is supposed to see and say that is the destination.

I’m not here to bash our program. Just curious to what makes yall think in 2026 UK is still at the top.

We don’t even have top facilities. We lead in all time wins for the time being. There are ten schools with a better brand than UK at the moment. It’s not really close.

You look at this season and style of play. Brand. What are we doing for them now? Who’s winning? Who’s cool? What coach is getting it done. How does the coach practice or hold his team accountable. Fan base. Fans travel. Trajectory of the program today. Perception of the program today. Winning/losing. Who looks like they are having fun? Who looks miserable?


Gotta remember . I said 17 year old kids. Kids who want to play fast and exciting ball and make it to the NBA. Players that want to win. And most importantly young kids that want to have fun in college. These are kids. Idc that they are millionaires they are kids. Rich kids yes but still kids.
Both of these posts are asking different things. I already addressed the first one. The second one is simple, we have the wrong coach. He has a cheeseball personality and way too many red flags. He can’t relate to today's players, so aside from money and exposure, we are at a disadvantage when it comes to what we have that can reel in the big fish.

This is why Mitch should never hire another UK basketball coach. He obviously doesn't get it.
 

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This is a dumb argument but look at the position you insinuated on me and what sort of response do you expect. You cleaned it up at the end. The team sucks. The kids are mercenaries. Our coach is not inspiring in any way other than puppy dog feels. None of that takes away from the tradition.
None of that takes away our tradition. I’m not attacking our tradition. That’s what makes me so passionate. That tradition isn’t gonna help us any in today’s game other than being proud of it.

I want on court success. I want our tradition to be held up. The standard to be upheld.
 

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Sitting in the nosebleeds 2012 packed side by side with my dad and many other UK fans one of my best memories. It wasn’t much needed. The fans sitting in the nosebleeds aren’t there to be comfortable I promise. Keep them chair backs down there for the knitters.
I enjoyed the bleachers too but once you reach a certain age it’s not where you want to be to watch a game when you paid $150 or more for the seats or $2300 a seat for season tickets. We are in a new era where you must produce the revenue and the renovations were a must. It was in rough shape and way out dated.
 
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Duke was in the final four last year man
And those players you mentioned aren’t looked at like UK players. Those are Calapari players
Do you think 17 year olds remember every team that went to a FF? No, they remember who won the title.
They also recall how Duke and Arkansas blew massive leads and lost.
And those players in the NBA, they don't care who the coach was, heck, in a couple years, they won't even realize who was coaching UK in 2018 when SGA was there.
 
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Do you tjink 17 year olds temember every team that went to a FF? No, they remember who won the title.
They also recall how Duke and Arkansas blew massive leads and lost.
And those players in the NBA, they don't care who the coach was, heck, in a couple years, they won't even realize who was coaching UK in 2018 when MKG was there.
Can I get this right.. are you trying to say that today Duke and Uk are even? We are even in young players eyes?
 

kyjeff1

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The question is what makes a 17 year old say hey that’s the place I want to go play.

All of that tradition /big arena/ passionate fans means nothing with a coach like we have.


Also I’m not really asking anything. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of our fanbase.

We have big money? Guess what everybody has big money! We don’t have anything the next team or program don’t have besides the fans imo.

Kentucky isn’t 2012 Kentucky. We aren’t 2015 Kentucky. We aren’t 2021 Kentucky:

We are a laughing stock who hasn’t fired a joke of a coach yet because we aren’t the top destination.
We're not a laughing stock. We were on a good run and laid an egg on the road. We were just in the sweet 16 last year after beating more top 25 teams than anyone in the history of the game, including duke.

I'm starting to see a picture here. A very red and white picture.
 

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No one is acknowledging the effect AGENTS have on recruiting. They're calling the shots on where the players end up...the school who will pay the most. Agents don’t care about tradition, fanbases , history…they care about getting the biggest cut they can. Recruit the agents.

Hire a mean SOB GM with master negotiating skills. Right now all we have are concession stand negotiators, and they’re getting CRUSHED.
 

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We dont need to impress past players. We are tying to convince players that are in high school. The trajectory of our program is scary. Players that will be here in 20 years aren’t born yet. We don’t need to be Indiana when they are ten years old.
 

kyjeff1

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Can I get this right.. are you trying to say that today Duke and Uk are even? We are even in young players eyes?
What, right now? Recency bias man, they had Flagg, now they have Cameron Boozer and right this second, they're hot, we're struggling.
What happens next year if duke flounders and we're in the top 5 in January? Would you ask that same question?
 

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We're not a laughing stock. We were on a good run and laid an egg on the road. We were just in the sweet 16 last year after heating more top 25 teams than anyone in the history of the game.

I'm starting to see a picture here. A very red and white picture.
When I talk about Kentucky I talk about what we are supposed to be. Like when you say WE ARE KENTUCKY. I’m not bashing you for saying that because I say it the same way you do and I get what it means. So no I don’t think we were on a good run. I don’t think getting blown out by a team that’s never reached a final four is good. I don’t think the five game winning streak was good where we clawed back and barely won with miracle plays. Yea I enjoyed it and glad it happened that way. Wins are better than losses but don’t let the wins take away from where we are really at.

Scraping by against lower level teams just to get blown out by any team with a pulse is not the tradition I grew up loving.
 

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What does UK offer that puts them above everyone else?

We don’t even have the biggest gym anymore from what someone stated. Ik Syracuse always had a bigger one but they never filled it up.

I say the fanbase is the biggest. That’s the only thing I can think of.


Someone tell me what a 17 year old recruit is supposed to see and say that is the destination.

I’m not here to bash our program. Just curious to what makes yall think in 2026 UK is still at the top.

We don’t even have top facilities. We lead in all time wins for the time being. There are ten schools with a better brand than UK at the moment. It’s not really close.

It sucks its a money race and it makes me sick. Theyll continue to sell the image of purity but its def a jesus smashing **** in temple moment. Lots of cognitive dissonance going on. Sad
 
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I'd say that playing for Kentucky still opens a lot of doors professionally that other places can't provide (see Richie Farmer being state agricultural commissioner). Even if you don't become a basketball pro, you can still set yourself up well for the rest of your career if you're smart. Calipari was spot on mentioning "set for life", but not just in a basketball sense.

Someone mentioned an example with Travis Perry and his transfer. A title of "former Ole Miss player Travis Perry" doesn't have nearly the cache as "former Kentucky player Travis Hoyt
Actually we could have used TRAVIS PERRY this year..The “win now” attitude with portal & nil cash makes NCAA athletes permanent free agents. Ky missed on 20 different impact players this year . The question is -WHY?
 

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The question is what makes a 17 year old say hey that’s the place I want to go play.

All of that tradition /big arena/ passionate fans means nothing with a coach like we have.


Also I’m not really asking anything. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of our fanbase.

We have big money? Guess what everybody has big money! We don’t have anything the next team or program don’t have besides the fans imo.

Kentucky isn’t 2012 Kentucky. We aren’t 2015 Kentucky. We aren’t 2021 Kentucky:

We are a laughing stock who hasn’t fired a joke of a coach yet because we aren’t the top destination.
I'm not convinced a big arena is that much of a draw,. I can be wrong, of course.
Seems to me, the coolest arenas are the smaller ones, with the kids down close on the sidelines. Just being real ...
 
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This happens every time UK isn’t dominating. It’s sad when many of our own fans don’t get it. Before Calipari, why would he come here they said? He can recruit to UM? No pressure? Kentucky is the Notre dame of college basketball they said. We heard it during Pitino. Im sure they said now that Rupp is gone UK is done. Come on Yall why do this every damn time.

They had it before you, during you, and they’ll have it when you’re gone.

This place can’t be killed because it’s so historical and it’s the only place you’re famous for life in college basketball. Duke and UNC share a state, it’s not as rabid. Kansas is closer, but not close. Coaches want the challenge and they want the fame. That’s why Calipari wanted it, it’s why Pitino wanted it, it’s why Pearl wanted it.

Nothing will ever stop that. It’s why Saban wanted bama.

Stop with this stuff. We can’t be perfect, programs and organizations have ups and downs. We’re down not dead. The next coach will be a splash and bam we’re right back like always.

Nobody will support basketball like Uk. Coaches want that. They want to be more famous than the governor and here you are, but only here. Kentucky basketball is “a special place”. How many times have you heard this from outsiders? They’re not lying.

Arkansas Tennessee Georgia etc have nothing close to that and answer to football.

Wish y’all would stop this. It’s easy to understand. I have been all over and nearly all SEC programs don’t come within half of what we do here. Nowhere in the nation does. Coaches love the challenge of coming in and being worshiped and putting UK on top cementing a legacy they can’t do this anywhere else. You literally create immortality here.
 
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I'm not convinced a big arena is that much of a draw,. I can be wrong, of course.
Seems to me, the coolest arenas are the smaller ones, with the kids down close on the sidelines. Just being real ...
Our arena could easily be there most feared arena in the nation.
EASILY! EASY!

We can make simple changes to change our program . Little changes that make a huge difference. Seriously . Imagine Rupp with a whole side of the bottom arena filled up with students behind the bench. Imagine that. Rupp would be number one.

Yes smaller arenas like Duke are impressive because of the crazy students right on top of the players.

It’s past due.
 

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This happens every time UK isn’t dominating. It’s sad when many of our own fans don’t get it. Before Calipari, why would he come here they said? He can recruit to UM? No pressure? Kentucky is the Notre dame of college basketball they said. We heard it during Pitino. Im sure they said now that Rupp is gone UK is done. Come on Yall why do this every damn time.

They had it before you, during you, and they’ll have it when you’re gone.

This place can’t be killed because it’s so historical and it’s the only place you’re famous for life in college basketball. Duke and UNC share a state, it’s not as rabid. Kansas is closer, but not close. Coaches want the challenge and they want the fame. That’s why Calipari wanted it, it’s why Pitino wanted it, it’s why Pearl wanted it.

Nothing will ever stop that. It’s why Saban wanted bama.

Stop with this stuff. We can’t be perfect, programs and organizations have ups and downs. We’re down not dead. The next coach will be a splash and bam we’re right back like always.

Nobody will support basketball like Uk. Coaches want that. They want to be more famous than the governor and here you are, but only here. Kentucky basketball is “a special place”. How many times have you heard this from outsiders? They’re not lying.

Arkansas Tennessee Georgia etc have nothing close to that and answer to football.

Wish y’all would stop this. It’s easy to understand. I have been all over and nearly all SEC programs don’t come within half of what we do here. Nowhere in the nation does. Coaches love the challenge of coming in and being worshiped and putting UK on top cementing a legacy they can’t do this anywhere else. You literally create immortality here.
Auburn and Alabama have been getting to final fours. We haven’t .
 

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What does UK offer that puts them above everyone else?

We don’t even have the biggest gym anymore from what someone stated. Ik Syracuse always had a bigger one but they never filled it up.

I say the fanbase is the biggest. That’s the only thing I can think of.


Someone tell me what a 17 year old recruit is supposed to see and say that is the destination.

I’m not here to bash our program. Just curious to what makes yall think in 2026 UK is still at the top.

We don’t even have top facilities. We lead in all time wins for the time being. There are ten schools with a better brand than UK at the moment. It’s not really close.
College sports is over. It’s a money grab now. Nothing now makes Kentucky special to portal or high school players.

Probably the only players we have this season that appreciate the Kentucky tradition is Noah and Moreno. Maybe Johnson also. The others couldn’t care less.

Fans are just rooting for the name on the jersey now.
 

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College sports is over. It’s a money grab now. Nothing now makes Kentucky special to portal or high school players.

Probably the only players we have this season that appreciate the Kentucky tradition is Noah and Moreno. Maybe Johnson also. The others couldn’t care less.

Fans are just rooting for the name on the jersey now.
If Moreno Noah or Jasper transfer this year I think it will open a lot of fans mind to Kentucky don’t mean jack these days.
 

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Auburn and Alabama have been getting to final fours. We haven’t .
That’s irrelevant to the topic.

Memphis was getting to finals fours and we weren’t.

Louisville was getting to final fours in the 80’s and we weren’t.

UCLA was getting to final fours and we weren’t.

George Mason was playin in final four and we weren’t.

All teams can make a good hire and we can make a bad one. It happens.

Auburn had Pearl, Bama has Oats. They made good hires, it happens. But they cannot sustain it and they won’t. If you look at college basketball history the cream rises to the top. Auburn beating us in an elite 8 to make their first final four means nothing. Pearl getting them in another final four means Pearl is great. Means nothing else. You will never stop great coaches wanting their chance at this program. Never. Pearl was waiting on the damn job lol. It’s just a bad hire. We all heard this in 2006. Memphis fans literally said black players don’t want to play at Kentucky in modern day and prefer Memphis where there’s an NBA team and an NBA Arena. How did that workout for them?
 
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That’s irrelevant to the topic.

Memphis was getting to finals fours and we weren’t.

Louisville was getting to final fours in the 80’s and we weren’t.

UCLA was getting to final fours and we weren’t.

George Mason was playin in final four and we weren’t.

All teams can make a good hire and we can make a bad one. It happens.

Auburn had Pearl, Bama has Oats. They made good hires, it happens. But they cannot sustain it and they won’t. If you look at college basketball history the cream rises to the top. Auburn beating us in an elite 8 to make their first final four means nothing. Pearl getting them in another final four means Pearl is great. Means nothing else. You will never stop great coaches wanting their chance at this program. Never. Pearl was waiting on the damn job lol. It’s just a bad hire. We all heard this in 2006. Memphis fans literally said black players don’t want to play at Kentucky in modern day and prefer Memphis where there’s an NBA team and an NBA Arena. How did that workout for them?
History restarted with NIL. Throw history out.
 
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WTF are you people talking about? We just need a good coach. Do you think IU football is cool? The hell? Do you think BYU basketball is cool? You just need a good coach that can recruit. Kentucky should be able to do that except we have a dipshit AD

It is a good point. With the right coach, any team can be "it". Cal made Kentucky great, there's no reason another coach can't do the same.

I guess the problem is that a lot of Kentucky fans, along with our coaching and leadership, seem to think that players should line up to play here regardless. Unfortunately that's just not the case. Instead we have to pay for our success because while there isn't anything holding Kentucky back, per se.. there isn't anything that's drawing recruits here either. Do the average 17-year old recruit, Kentucky is 1 of 50 destinations at this point.

Have to land the right coach and you have to pay for success. Make no mistake, Duke isn't doing this because of it's legacy.. it's shelling out 10's of millions for it's roster, in some fashion.
 

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History restarted with NIL. Throw history out.
JMI is a different topic we’ll have to see how that shakes out. But judging from the looks of things, I’m not sure this is about JMI anymore. Pearl didn’t seem to care about it, Cal didn’t care about it when he was giving into Brnharts demands to try and change his mind so he could stay.

NIL is a plus for Kentucky. Nobody is going to appropriate the kind of money we will for basketball. Nobody. But Mark doesn’t know what he’s doing.

This is a case of a coach in over his head and he won’t be here past 16 more months if that. He should be fired today.

I’m just telling you Kentucky fans, especially younger ones, do this everytime we’re not winning championships or making final fours. I’ve been doing this since 92, and I’ve heard this same speech 3 different times.

You will never stop Kentucky because great coaches wanting their chance here. We just don’t have an AD who’s hiring them lol. He’s an idiot. We’ve been suckered by a financial administrator. Problems go away when Kentucky decides to get Capiluto and Barnhart out of here.
 
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It is a good point. With the right coach, any team can be "it". Cal made Kentucky great, there's no reason another coach can't do the same.

I guess the problem is that a lot of Kentucky fans, along with our coaching and leadership, seem to think that players should line up to play here regardless. Unfortunately that's just not the case. Instead we have to pay for our success because while there isn't anything holding Kentucky back, per se.. there isn't anything that's drawing recruits here either. Do the average 17-year old recruit, Kentucky is 1 of 50 destinations at this point.

Have to land the right coach and you have to pay for success. Make no mistake, Duke isn't doing this because of it's legacy.. it's shelling out 10's of millions for it's roster, in some fashion.
Kentucky or any other program has never been a place where they come regardless unless you’re talking before TV deals. This idea was never true.

Great programs need Great coaches. Always have, always will.

Alabama got beat by Kentucky in football during their down eras without a quality coach. They’re the same way.

Kentucky is not like other places, I’ve been all over with the team to many different places and anyone will tell you that Kentucky is just different. Great coaches want to be here mostly, unless they’ve got something else they’re into. Mostly that doesn’t happen.

We literally just went through this, Memphis fans said the same thing. Cal won’t go there, he has an NBA arena there state of the art, Black players love Memphis, it’s a black city, he can recruit there the same as here, less pressure, getting a statue. Look how they turned out. Because Calipari wanted the fame and recognition of being the most important man in the state. History is made here, that won’t stop. We just, for some reason, to this everytime. Same things were said in the 80’s. If Kentucky isn’t sitting pretty “it’s over”. This is the only place in America where the coach is more important that the governor. I just don’t think people realize how big of a sell that is in a sport like college basketball.

I think it’s the same for every fanbase though. People are literally saying Alabama will fall off as we speak lol.
 
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Btw, this board, many posters, when Pope’s name would come up for the future, literally said he wouldn’t leave BYU because he’s Mormon and he’s attached to it. And the guy literally would have crawled in front of a bus to get here lol.

People need to move around and go to these other campuses and see what it’s like for college basketball. Oats can walk down the sidewalk in Tuscaloosa and have nobody even approach him. It’s just different here and coaches want it always will
 

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It is a good point. With the right coach, any team can be "it". Cal made Kentucky great, there's no reason another coach can't do the same.

I guess the problem is that a lot of Kentucky fans, along with our coaching and leadership, seem to think that players should line up to play here regardless. Unfortunately that's just not the case. Instead we have to pay for our success because while there isn't anything holding Kentucky back, per se.. there isn't anything that's drawing recruits here either. Do the average 17-year old recruit, Kentucky is 1 of 50 destinations at this point.

Have to land the right coach and you have to pay for success. Make no mistake, Duke isn't doing this because of it's legacy.. it's shelling out 10's of millions for it's roster, in some fashion.
And we will never know how much they spend because they aren’t a joke right now and wouldn’t brag about anything like they’ve been there before.

Folks with money don’t talk about it. Almost like we got a coach that was star struck with all the resources and went bat **** crazy. Lottery winner who blew it all on cigarettes.
 
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