But the end of game stuff is really, really important and it never has been a strong suit of Pike’s or late game execution of his RU teams.
Basketball Rutgers Basketball falls to No. 7 Michigan State in OT heartbreaker
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Yes and no. Yes, Frears should have been called for that. No, because even though JaMichael missed the first FT and made the second, you have to guard the inbound passer and press up, denying them any leeway to get the ball up the court quickly. Even if they do, you foul immediately. Put the onus on them to make the first FT and decide to shoot the second FT or clang it off the basket to get the rebound and tie the game.
Also watching that 3-pointer from MSU back: a.) what in the world is Zrno doing and b.) *I know they'd never call it there* but holy moving screen on Kohler
Understand. And I agree with you. Personally, after tonight's heartbreaking loss, we will be lucky to win 3 more games in the B1G.
Agreed, B1G has to reprimand that ref for swallowing the whistle there
Unfortunately for Pike, our lack of talent is on him and a big part of his job description. It's not like someone just handed him this roster and said go coach them. He picked these guys. And he gets judged on all of it, not just the aspects that you like and ignore the rest. And as far as his coaching, I have a hard time considering Pike a coaching genius when he literally ignores coaching offense, which is 50% of the game.
This is not a game to get on Pike. Game plan was solid, plenty of coaches wouldn’t foul with more than 10 seconds up by three, and you don’t think the kids effort had something to do with Pike challenging/motivating them after the Indiana effort? I mean according to many in the board we have zero real big ten starters and yet this group have enough effort to play MSU in OT.
Arguably the least talented team in the B1G and we took 7 to OT and nearly beat Iowa on the road.
It sucks, but this is not the EJ era.
Bottom line this game is just another bad loss..Rutgers dominated the game until crunch time where missed foul shots and poor guarding on the inbound pass allowed Michgan State to make a open 3 pointer to tie the score .In OT Michigan State suoerior talent came forth while Rutgers shot bricks.This could have been another game where Rutgers found a way to upset a highly ranked teram. and the fanss tormed the court.
1000%, but it was not in his original job description. I’ve heard he absolutely hates NIL and the state of college basketball. So fielding a team based on $$$$ was absolutely not in his job description.
And sure - if he hates the state of the sport - maybe he should resign. But to question his coaching ability is nonsense.
Don’t claim some type of authority based on being a coach. You haven’t coached at pikes level and there’s lots of dopey coaches so it means nothing that you coached. That doesn’t help your argument. Michigan state had 17 seconds left when that possession started. Acting like it some no brainer that you press against I guy like fears is a terrible take.
I think I was pretty clear questioning his shot selection the last 7-8 minutes and not him taking the last shot.
You're wrong, of course. But you seem to hunt me down in the past with your contrarian arguments. You're now on ignore.
This is a crazy take. I don't know of any high level, high paying job that has anything close to.a set job description. That is just not how it works. You are tasked with broad responsibiliites that you carry out regardless of the environment. You are expected to adapt and manage through change. It sucks for Pike that the rules changed and he isn't a great fit for the NIL era. If he hates NIL, he should quit. He gets no pass for that.
We press and they may actually get up the court quicker than they did, they were running right past us by that point. The error was, for the 30th time recently, losing the guy in the corner.
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A weirdly impressive start to conference play, looking back at it. Had beaten 12-2 Penn State in the previous home game and had a 57-51 lead over eventual No. 4 seed Maryland with seven minutes left in the game.
Fair. A great moment for us.
But you know what I mean, in general, this team has been competitive against everyone in the conference except 3 of the top 4/5 and the clunker against IU - despite being the least talented team in the conference.
Its better team than Eddies 3 because they do play hard above their talent level
Dude seriously. Why did I have to be wise beyond my years and choose in state tuition over winning?
It’s not about getting on Pike, it’s just acknowledging he executed poor late game strategy. The MSU shooter shot the ball with 12 seconds left, so if there 9 seconds or 10 when he caught it you would be ok with fouling? Makes no sense. It’s ok to foul with 12 or 13 seconds left. And we would have won had we done so.
100 percent on Pike. If he had any understanding of situational basketball this game never gets close.
He is a HORRIFIC situational coach. How you don’t hunt Fears with 4 fouls with 5 mins to go in the game???
You run pick and roll to have Fears switched on to Francis and let him hunt. It’s either an easy bucket for Francis or Fears could out and the comeback never happens.
Late in game you inbound to Francis not JMike .
Two very simple coaching decisions cost us the game.
Pikes done
Figured you would come out… I mean they did lose so you can continue to drum up your Pike’s done mantra. One problem though he actually isn’t done at least not till he gets a chance to see what he can do with decent NIL.
Did he lose this game? I was sitting 2 feet from him begging him to hunt Fears . He lost the game AGAIN!
Dead man walking
What exactly has he won? Other than an occasional upset he has won nothing. With 2 first round selections he had a losing record. Never won the BIG.
He’s won one ncaa tourney game in ten years
It is crazy how much deference gets afforded to both our basketball and football coach. You would think that Nick Saban and Coach K. were here. Pike is a great guy and he’s adequate and competent, but we need dynamic and successful for our head coaches. Time to aim higher, come on now, the guy has had 10 years already. Does he need another 10 years until maybe we can think about being ready to pull the plug? The time has come, we need a change, even if we somehow blew out MSU tonight does not change the fact that the time has come for a change.
He’s won multiple games against top 25 teams. Hes never had a extremely talented roster and he’s brought multiple teams to the ncaa tournament.
Hes a very good coach
Come on. That was all years ago. Ever since Mawot Mag got hurt in msg the program has been falling like a stone. Bless the rains.
You are off by one possession. Fears pushed off when they trailed by 3 with 25 seconds left. No basket, we shoot (Grant?). If we hit one FT there, it is a two possession lead with 25 to go and they have no PG.
But that didn't happen. Man.
We could have won in many other ways even with the no call.
I wouldn't foul at all, you are up 3, you can't lose. Play D, run the clock, force a tough 3. We didn't get set defensively, that was the mistake.
For starters folks..watching on TV and several replays that was hardly a push on Buchanan. He kinda jumps under the basket for some crazy reason there at the same time Fears had his elbow in his back and yes..used a little pressure. Could they have called it? Of course.. should they have called it? Perhaps. .but it wasn't some aggreges shove.
Another "found a way to lose at the end" game by this coach who again finished regulation with a TO left and just said "wing it" with Francis. Don't understand EO on the bench with 3 fouls end game while fears is owning the lane and we need rebounds. I knew it was coming and I knew once we went OT it was over. Terrible huge missed opportunity for a team that played hard , very hard all game against #7. Coaches can't clap their way to victory, they need to add value, I'm sure the clapping helps motivate the team to play hard but when does this guy figure out the x-o's required to win these things?
Another "found a way to lose at the end" game by this coach who again finished regulation with a TO left and just said "wing it" with Francis. Don't understand EO on the bench with 3 fouls end game while fears is owning the lane and we need rebounds. I knew it was coming and I knew once we went OT it was over. Terrible huge missed opportunity for a team that played hard , very hard all game against #7. Coaches can't clap their way to victory, they need to add value, I'm sure the clapping helps motivate the team to play hard but when does this guy figure out the x-o's required to win these things?