Agree, loss is not on Pike. Make some shots last 2 minutes.
Basketball Rutgers Basketball falls to No. 7 Michigan State in OT heartbreaker
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Totally disagree. Pikirll still hasn't learned how to finish games. Up 3 and you don't guard the inbound passer? You don't make them grind it up the floor? And you allow them to shoot a three? Terrible coaching by him. TERRIBLE!
When you have the game in hand there are no excuses!
You could convince me after this LOSS to keep Pike more than any of the other games people be banging the drum over and probably more than all of the wins
We lost because we couldn’t make the key FT down the stretch. We missed the key basket at the buzzer and couldn’t buy a bucket in OT. Our lack of talent is why we lost.
pike is a helluva coach, we just need better players. And sure, that’s on pike. But you can’t question his coaching after years and years of these huge upsets
pike is a helluva coach, we just need better players. And sure, that’s on pike. But you can’t question his coaching after years and years of these huge upsets
I agree with you, but MSU should not have been allowed to just fly up the court without guarding the inbound and allowing Frears to throw to an open man for three. That just can't happen, and Pikiell's stupid lack of understanding of endgame situations cost us this game. Period! This game NEVER should have gone into OT.
If JMike makes his FT, or if refs aren't criminals, or if Francis makes the floater we win.
Too many missed chances. This one is going to hurt for tonight.
Too many missed chances. This one is going to hurt for tonight.
We didn't even guard the inbound passer. Total ********! We should have pressed them. Not let them get an easy inbound pass and then an even easier pass ot an open three point shooter. This endgame was on Pikiell.
You can’t give up. It’s a curse and you will live with it until you die.
Rutgers Basketball falls to No. 7 Michigan State in OT heartbreaker
Rutgers Basketball gave No. 7 Michigan State all it could handle, but fell in overtime after the offense ran out of gas late.
Pressing when your opponent has a guy like fears is going to result in a very good look. This isn’t cyo.
Thing is it don’t look like lack of effort they just had better bigger athletes and worked just as hard.
Good for you. I guess you like Pikiell's piss-poor endgame coaching, eh? That was our game. The game never should've gone to OT. You guard the inbound pass, and you press them, forcing them to get it up the floor. You don't give MSU free rein to make an open inbound followed by a half-court pass to an open three-point shooter. Just freakin' stupid by Pikiell. For me this loss is why I want him gone.
Two things can be true at the same time, we can say Pike had a great game plan but that he also blew it late….we can walk and chew gum at the same time. Agree with @RU MAN that MSU should never have gotten off that three point shot. People are acting like there was 30 seconds left, plus MSU may have missed a free throw (which Fears did by the way late in the game), and if we got the right guy on the line (Francis) and hit hits free throws after MSU fouls under 10 seconds we win. Pretty simple.
it looked like Men vs Boys. And the fact we we took them to OT is all credit to pike and his game plan
You're wrong. I've coached for many, many years, and not CYO ball. Even if you foul him, you force him to shoot FT's. Even if he makes the first one, he would need to make a decision to clang the second one to even tie the game. You absolutely put pressure on MSU there.
The game never should have gone to OT. We should've won in regulation.
Maybe. But we still should've won the game with the right defense, which Pikiell once again, screwed up on.
He coached generally very well after I thought he lost the team. Ill concede that. But allowing sparty a wide open three at the end of regulation was unsconscionable - poor defensive call there.
also, his zones never fool anyone.
Our guys played max to their talent. Played their hearts out. But the narrative remains the same.
totally agree. But we missed very easy shots, left a player wide open for three, missed FTs down the stretch and missed a floater for the win.
It’s talent, not coaching.
Yet another Rutgers game where I ask when it’s over “why do I do this to myself?”
blame the players for that - his game plan was not to allow a wide open three. lol
What college are you coaching? I’ve seen lots of dopey coaches.
Michigan State No. 8 team nationally in offensive rebounding rate -- 13 offensive rebounds on 29 missed shots is only a little bit better than their season average. As frustrating a loss as that was, I'm not sure too many people can be definitively blamed for it. Really just one shot, call or free throw away from beating an elite team. Proud of the effort
This wasn't a talent issue. MSU talent-wise is miles better than we are. It was a lousy coaching decision by Pikiell at the end of regulation. You have to guard the inbound passer and press up, not allowing them to throw it long. If there is an MSU guy down on the other side, you guard him. If he is able to get the ball, you foul him. You DON'T let him shoot a three. Pikiell has made the same god-awful mistake in game-end situations before. Remember the loss to Minnesota when we had that game wrapped up. He did the same dumb thing there, and it cost us.
If they call the clear Fears push in the back for #5, we win.
Man.
Man.
ok - but his game plan for the first 59 minutes kept us in the game.
yes - it was a talent issues. We had an ideal chance to win at the buzzer - an east floater and we couldn’t convert. We couldn’t hit key FTs down the stretch.
Sorry but Francis was not good tonight. He shot 6-17!!! He also made a lot of shots very early when the clock is our friend when you are an underdog. He took some bad shots, multiple 3's too far out. So what if he gets 6 in, he missed 11! It's not good basketball and that's on the coaches to fix.
Nope. The reason we were in the game is they didn't attack the basket until there were 10 minutes to go. Then it was layup city the rest of the way, AND THAT WAS ON PIKE, so Pike should shoulder a lot of the blame. Don't be fooled into thinking we've gotten a lot better. We still have bad players and probably the worst head and asst. coaches in the league. A few more clobberings (word?) remain.
If you pay any attention on the board I’ve advocated for him to be gone 85% of the time
my point was really a jab at the apologists who want to come on and say he’s doing great after a win but in my mind they looked better today than any of their 9 wins
that’s all… my stance remains he should be gone if they can’t get to 7 big ten wins which I don’t think they will