Interesting that the boundaries for his Nebraska do not include Lincoln.
I think Stars and rankings are a good starting point in evaluation, but ultimately, the tape tells all. Malachi Toney is a perfect example of this.what are they?
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“We never ever looked, and I know Cig (Indiana head coach Curt Cignetti) doesn't either, at how many stars a guy has because I think what you all need to do is look at who's giving out the stars. They don't know their *** from their hands when it comes to what a football player is."
Nick Saban from Monday nights pre-game.
If you don’t know the advantages you clearly don’t want to see them.what are they?
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“We never ever looked, and I know Cig (Indiana head coach Curt Cignetti) doesn't either, at how many stars a guy has because I think what you all need to do is look at who's giving out the stars. They don't know their *** from their hands when it comes to what a football player is."
Nick Saban from Monday nights pre-game.
huh?If you don’t know the advantages you clearly don’t want to see them.
So it all ended up working out and nobody got hurt?From a Nebraska Article.....
"The only other comparable situation is when defensive lineman Christian LaCouture moved to Lincoln Southwest from Odessa Permian in 2012. The irony in that story was LaCouture’s family bought a home in Lincoln, and he ultimately switched his commitment to LSU. LaCouture went on to play 50 games and make 36 starts over four seasons in Baton Rouge."
During the season, Nebraska's QB coach is working 80+ hours a week trying to beat Ohio St. You think he's going to set aside more time to teach a recruit the playbook? A recruit that may end up not even attending your program?The days of letting a kid be a kid and finishing what you started with your friends are long gone. It's all about the all might dollar these days and if this gets the kid a leg up that ends up netting him extra cash what's wrong with that?
Living an hour away is far greater than taking a plane every weekend to attend games.
Why would no coach offer assistance when learning the playbook to a recruit?
Increased presence in the Lincoln/Nebraska community which will ultimately be very beneficial for future NIL deals. More contact and familiarity with your future college town and coaching staff. He can literally be on Nebraska's campus every day working out, talking to coaches, training with current Nebraska players, etc.what are they?
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“We never ever looked, and I know Cig (Indiana head coach Curt Cignetti) doesn't either, at how many stars a guy has because I think what you all need to do is look at who's giving out the stars. They don't know their *** from their hands when it comes to what a football player is."
Nick Saban from Monday nights pre-game.
No, he can't be on their campus every day working out and training with current players. He isn't a student there and not covered on their student accident insurance policy.Increased presence in the Lincoln/Nebraska community which will ultimately be very beneficial for future NIL deals. More contact and familiarity with your future college town and coaching staff. He can literally be on Nebraska's campus every day working out, talking to coaches, training with current Nebraska players, etc.
I have no idea why you posted a quote from Saban regarding a players rankings. Are you trying to say Taylor isn't that good?
Nebraska has open districts.Interesting that the boundaries for his Nebraska do not include Lincoln.
I feel for this kid.Looks like a calculated move by the adults around him. Even his account tweets read like a PR person, no one talks like that. Hope he is doing alright and doesn't feel immense pressure in his life to appease those around him.
Who says it has to be the QB coach? A power 4 conference school has almost as many coaches as it has players. I'm sure they would have no problem assigning a grad assistant to work with him.During the season, Nebraska's QB coach is working 80+ hours a week trying to beat Ohio St. You think he's going to set aside more time to teach a recruit the playbook? A recruit that may end up not even attending your program?
It's not fair to the other recruits who the coach doesn't meet with.
Why not just do it via zoom? Why is this a reason to move to Lincoln?
There's no reason for it. The whole point of enrolling early is being able to take part in position meetings starting in January in which the playbook will be installed ahead of Spring Ball.
Lastly, the kid said he'll be able to learn the playbook on game day. As if he's going to be able to ask the coaches questions during the game??
Yeah, poor kid has the potential to be a multi millionaire before he leaves college.I feel for this kid.
Your responses are much more emotional than actually looking at the situation as an unaffected person. First, once he signs he can be on campus. Even if Nebraska had the strictest of policies, nothing is stopping him from working out on his own with the current Nebraska players. He can also meet with coaches and staff during quiet period living in Lincoln. Something he cant do if he was in Chicago.No, he can't be on their campus every day working out and training with current players. He isn't a student there and not covered on their student accident insurance policy.
Again, it sound like you are responding to this situation like you have no idea how NIL works. Im sure he has an agency. And that agency is going to be able to generate more/better local NIL opportunities for a Nebraska committ playing in Omaha vs a Nebraska committ playing in Chicago. Thats not really a hard concept to grasp.He's not going door to door seeking NIL deal. He has an agency he is represented by that does that.
Mentioning him being a 4 star recruit has nothing to do with how good he is or going to be. Its about the hype around him and what that means for NIL opportunities. So, him being a highly thought of 4* star recruit is very relevant in that regard.You mentioned he's a 4star recruit. The quote was referenced to note that stars are irrelevant.
Buddy relax, breathe!!!Yeah, poor kid has the potential to be a multi millionaire before he leaves college.
What? My post wasn't in response to you.Buddy relax, breathe!!!
I was more so looking at it as this kid is getting MASSIVE hate based on this decision.
A decision which may have not even been his, but made for him. But he has to be the face of his own brand so he is has to take the heat from keyboard warriors. Not a lot of 17-18 year old kids love going on social media just to see grown men calling him names.
what are they?
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“We never ever looked, and I know Cig (Indiana head coach Curt Cignetti) doesn't either, at how many stars a guy has because I think what you all need to do is look at who's giving out the stars. They don't know their *** from their hands when it comes to what a football player is."
Nick Saban from Monday nights pre-game.
You keep saying emotional as if you have any idea who I am or my background.Your responses are much more emotional than actually looking at the situation as an unaffected person. First, once he signs he can be on campus. Even if Nebraska had the strictest of policies, nothing is stopping him from working out on his own with the current Nebraska players. He can also meet with coaches and staff during quiet period living in Lincoln. Something he cant do if he was in Chicago.
The quotes on the back cover are from Mark Sanchez, Trent Dilfer, and Ryan Perrilloux and the book was published in 2022, before NIL, it's already obsolete.You keep saying emotional as if you have any idea who I am or my background.
Encourage you as well as 4AFan to read the below book.
"5-STAR QB: It's Not About the Stars, It's About the Journey - takes you inside the minds, the lives, and the moment-by-moment experiences of more than 50 5-STAR quarterbacks, in their own words. In addition, each chapter has advice from notable Ambassadors of the Game that is layered with a wisdom that will enrich the lives of any recruit, parent, or fan of football."
Numerous QB's advice for the younger generation and things they would have done differently if they had the opportunity to do it again...
- stay completely off social media
- stay present in the moment and don't rush to leave HS - (many said they regretted graduating early)
- spend more time on things outside of football (time with friends, family, doing high school kid things)
- play another sport in HS - there's a false idea that you need to focus solely on football/qb
- know who's really in your corner vs who's trying to make a dollar off you
don't just read the back cover - read the book. NIL is discussed numerous times. Caleb Williams, JJ McCarthy, etc are in the book as well and experienced NIL.The quotes on the back cover are from Mark Sanchez, Trent Dilfer, and Ryan Perrilloux and the book was published in 2022, before NIL, it's already obsolete.
The quote from Dilfer "use the 5 star label more than the 5 star label uses you". Seems like Turner is doing just that by doing all he can to increase his NIL value.
To the last point in the synopsis of the book, yes people will do what they can to make a dollar off of him, but the difference between whatever advise is in the book and now is that the kid can now make the bulk of the money.
JJ's NIL earnings were around $1.4 million, that's what a solid TE can pull in these days.don't just read the back cover - read the book. NIL is discussed numerous times. Caleb Williams, JJ McCarthy, etc are in the book as well and experienced NIL.
I always find it interesting when people who are fans from afar pretend to know all the details about a particular recruitment and what factors each athlete/parent prioritizes. All recruitment aren't the same. Just because something is important to you doesn't mean some kid or their family cares about that sort of thing. You're right, I dont know who you are. But I do know you are just like me and 99.9% of us here who aren't in Taylor's inner circle. So I dont pretend to know what is best for him. But from a development standpoint, and an NIL standpoint, the transfer to the lincoln area has obvious advantages that you are ignoring.You keep saying emotional as if you have any idea who I am or my background.
Encourage you as well as 4AFan to read the below book.
"5-STAR QB: It's Not About the Stars, It's About the Journey - takes you inside the minds, the lives, and the moment-by-moment experiences of more than 50 5-STAR quarterbacks, in their own words. In addition, each chapter has advice from notable Ambassadors of the Game that is layered with a wisdom that will enrich the lives of any recruit, parent, or fan of football."
Numerous QB's advice for the younger generation and things they would have done differently if they had the opportunity to do it again...
- stay completely off social media
- stay present in the moment and don't rush to leave HS - (many said they regretted graduating early)
- spend more time on things outside of football (time with friends, family, doing high school kid things)
- play another sport in HS - there's a false idea that you need to focus solely on football/qb
- know who's really in your corner vs who's trying to make a dollar off you
An interesting point to make given your position on the player and his family in this threadYou keep saying emotional as if you have any idea who I am or my background.
I've learned to never say 100% or 0% chance, especially on this board, so I'll say 2% he finishes there. They had a 5 Star QB whose Father was Nebraska Cornhusker Royalty that I'm sure any wish (besides wins) was his command while he was there and he left to be a backup at Oregon. School has been a shell of their former glory for nearly 2 decades. Unless they have a IU type turnaround quickly I don't think he stays.....and that's if he even pans out. Stay tuned.I'll say 10%.
How many zip codes at Millard South? Could somebody please post a map with a huge circle so I can visualize their recruiting area.Interesting development...
Tay Ellis, a 4-Star Nebraska WR commit from Texas who is in the same class as Trae Taylor, announced yesterday that he is also transferring to Millard South in Omaha for his senior season.
RE: IU 360, they have Ricketts money, and one is even the governor. Maybe the ConAgra and Cattle folks yearn for the Golden Ages of the Big 8 and put together a program that can pay talent to replace talent. Need a QB? Go get one. Simple with no NFL contracts.I've learned to never say 100% or 0% chance, especially on this board, so I'll say 2% he finishes there. They had a 5 Star QB whose Father was Nebraska Cornhusker Royalty that I'm sure any wish (besides wins) was his command while he was there and he left to be a backup at Oregon. School has been a shell of their former glory for nearly 2 decades. Unless they have a IU type turnaround quickly I don't think he stays.....and that's if he even pans out. Stay tuned.
The star system is stupid half those guys don't get their stars until after they are offered by a bunch of schools. Wow On3 found a diamond in the rough that had 40 offers.I get that people love to say stars don’t matter, and maybe they don’t when you’re talking about building a complete team. But the whole point of the star and ranking system is to identify individual talent. When you look at NFL Draft numbers, 5-star and 4-star kids get picked at a much higher rate than everybody else. The rating system isn’t perfect, and neither is NFL Draft scouting, but stars are still a pretty solid indicator of talent. NIL and the transfer portal might change some of that over time, but right now, a 5-star is still a 5-star.
2025 NFL Draft by Stars - last 5 years
Nebraska is a team that has an entire State behind...no professional teams of any kind, it's what they have to root for....it also has with them any amd all multi millionaire that is tied to it along with that persons business sense. They aren't going to get these recruits in the door based on their past success so I can see them doing a turnaround sooner then later. Is this kid the answer? I don't know, he was a 4 star QB that went 12-11 as a starter and no farther then the second round in the playoffs at CCHS. I'm well aware he didn't have the supporting cast centered around him that other schools have but his leash, like all freshmen QBs, will be short because if he doesn't win, to the portal they go. If he leaves so does any money they were giving him. Such a different age we are in.RE: IU 360, they have Ricketts money, and one is even the governor. Maybe the ConAgra and Cattle folks yearn for the Golden Ages of the Big 8 and put together a program that can pay talent to replace talent. Need a QB? Go get one. Simple with no NFL contracts.
College - and now high school - is the last time kids will control their destiny. Everyone is trying to position themselves the best they can to get to the league (see restrictive NFL contracts noted above). Most will fall short, some will fail disastrously, to our amusement.
Det. MC, I think we agree a kid should maximize any money they can get. Hopefully, that money is spent/saved well, but that is a different
How many zip codes at Millard South? Could somebody please post a map with a huge circle so I can visualize their recruiting area.
I thought about as well.Maybe Nebraska is starting a new trend. Turning a local high school into their very own prep school. I am not even joking and would not be surprised if this becomes the norm until some type of actual rules are in place that can be enforced by the NCAA.
I'm sure this would be well received by all the high school coaches across the state of Nebraska and would help improve their relationship with the Nebraska staff.Maybe Nebraska is starting a new trend. Turning a local high school into their very own prep school. I am not even joking and would not be surprised if this becomes the norm until some type of actual rules are in place that can be enforced by the NCAA.