We are proud to announce a program-record GPA
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It would be interesting to see where that 3.43 GPA ranks compared to our conference mates.
I'm guessing that Northwestern is #1.
Would be awesome if anyone cared. I personally think it’s a huge accomplishment for RU but at 5-7 without even a bowl game = academics is irrelevant in the eyes of the new world of NIL. That’s why I love the Ivies more than ever. Real student-athletes. And yes, I know athletes admissions is a totally different ballgame but still requires a whole other level of commitment.
We really need to question the type of kids we bring in here- they seemed to be too concerned with getting an education. lol
Kidding- love seeing that many players do care.
Kidding- love seeing that many players do care.
Student athletes might be a thing of the past now, but it is nice to see students succeeding and those students RU athletes.
I don't see any reason to assume that student athletes are a thing of the past. The only difference is that they're now getting paid, just like kids who work in the library or the cafeteria.
It's so hard to put relevance to this in today's college world with all the benefits given to the athletes with academic support. Special living quaters, on line classes.Etc.
Of course it is nice to see the number. But it is just lije seeing a player broke a record in 12+ games plus OT vs. the guy who played 11 games with no OT.
Of course it is nice to see the number. But it is just lije seeing a player broke a record in 12+ games plus OT vs. the guy who played 11 games with no OT.
99% of our athletes will not have a pro career. They need to be able to make their living in other ways. Having good grades, whatever the cause, is good.
Note that on-line classes are available to everyone, and so they ease the academic burden of all students, not just athletes.
I remember Bob Presley, the [basketball] center for the California Golden Bears in 1968-1969. He said that if he didn't make it to the pros, he would have to be the world's tallest janitor. When it became clear he had no future in the pros, he killed himself. We don't need more of that.
Academic Support and On-Line classes are pretty much widely available to the student base. Some people are bitter that some college athletes are paid, but consider that they are working full time jobs (with overtime) which requires separate studies, lectures and travel on behalf of the school on top of being full time students. 99% will not advance as professional athletes. Although they choose to do this, that does not mean nor make it easy to achieve high grades.
Congratulations to the players, coaches and support staff.
The mindset that people don’t care about the academic part of this and only the on field winning did not start because of NIL. That’s been the case for a very long time. This new era of college athletics has accelerated it. In my opinion it has much more to do with our collective culture and what we prioritize and reward in our society. At some point there will be little or no connection to academics at all and then it should be asked what is the connection of sports with Rutgers University? Maybe we should look toward a pro club system of some type.
There are academic support people who are specific to the athletic program, and so I think it's fair to say that athletes have more academic support available to them. Schiano, whatever his shortcomings as a coach, has built up the available academic suppport, and always pushed his players to take advantage of it. I don't think anyone can seriously object to that. As you say, athletes have plenty of their plate. In addition, a lot of athletes have academic backgrounds that are inferior to most other students'.
Again I didn't say they don't deserve the support . I worked nearly full time during my years because I had to pay my full expense. I would love to have had all those resources. If I had, I KNOW my GPA would have been much higher. Someone asked about how this compares to other B1G schools.
I'd like to see how this compares to other Rutgers Basketball Teams over the years. Because my original point was of course the team is going to score higher than Geoff Billet and Robb Hodgson (who Bannon joked about studying on buses to away games) because those guys didn't have the support these guys do now nor the options.
It wasn't vs. other students.
It wasn't vs. going pro athletes
And there wasn't bitterness or envy. I did wonderful with my "B" level GPA.
Nor did I think you said that. I didn't mean to imply that you did.
My understanding -- and this is old information -- is that Schiano always stressed to his team the importance of school and that he made sure his players took advantage of academic support. It was also my understanding that wasn't true of all coaches.
Couple of points:
-Kudos to Schiano because as someone stated most of the players on the roster will not have a career in football. But I get it - in D1 football the wins matter and GPAs don’t.
-Playing D1 sports is not a “job” regardless of the level of commitment. The whole reason behind scholarships, benefits, support, etc. is that schools recognized the contributions athletes made outside the classroom. Obviously NIL has changed much of this but top athletes are basically training 24/7/365 long before they step foot on a college campus. Is playing high school football at Bergen Catholic a “job”?
-Most major programs and the NCAA don’t give a **** about academics anymore. Where are the ineligible players? Non-qualifiers going JUCO? Players withdrawing from school due to academics? This was fairly common in the past. Are we expected to believe that every single impact player across P4 made the grades to stay eligible every semester? Some of these kids can barely string two sentences together.
-Kudos to Schiano because as someone stated most of the players on the roster will not have a career in football. But I get it - in D1 football the wins matter and GPAs don’t.
-Playing D1 sports is not a “job” regardless of the level of commitment. The whole reason behind scholarships, benefits, support, etc. is that schools recognized the contributions athletes made outside the classroom. Obviously NIL has changed much of this but top athletes are basically training 24/7/365 long before they step foot on a college campus. Is playing high school football at Bergen Catholic a “job”?
-Most major programs and the NCAA don’t give a **** about academics anymore. Where are the ineligible players? Non-qualifiers going JUCO? Players withdrawing from school due to academics? This was fairly common in the past. Are we expected to believe that every single impact player across P4 made the grades to stay eligible every semester? Some of these kids can barely string two sentences together.
As with you I paid my own way through RU and worked at all times - sometimes multiple jobs made the deans list a few times and had a B+ level GPA.
Apologies as I was perhaps being a bit general and did not mean to point at you specifically wrt things like "bitterness"......it was more my reaction to this board's general tone of fans constantly complaining that they are going to quit being a fan because of the current state or players getting paid, or even the comments in this thread like "who cares-the players are professional athletes".
My point was that regardless of how much more difficult it may have been 20-30 years ago and the current era with advancements in both support and technology it still seems like a pretty impressive achievement IMO. Football players spend hours each day physically practicing, they also spend hours in the weight room, the film room, studying playbooks, hearing coaching lectures, dealing with therapies for nagging injuries, participating in volunteering outreach, have to travel, prep for weekly games (many do not even get on the field) etc.......all in addition to being full time students.
Now that college football is essentially professional. I don’t care about GPA anymore (unless we drop out of the B1G and refocus our priorities).
You're pathetic. Hopefully, you're not really a Rutgers fan. I'm guessing Syracuse.
I've read enough of your crap. The IGNORE list for you.
Yes, I have zero doubt our coaches support family and educational values to the extent it likely hampers on field/court success. I always appreciate seeing our SA's do well in the classroom because for the most part I can still think of (most) of them as such unlike MANY other institutions. Unfortunately it comes with a cost these days and gets lost in the mix by too many, especially the media and big money machine.
Yeah..for the right kids but do the star $$ minded recruits really care? I mean enough of them to make a significant difference playing the schedule we do?
That angle was a card in our deck before NIL. Unfortunately that ACE has been diminished IMHO. I wish not.