Iowa ranked No. 17 in final AP Poll
- Thread starter Blair Sanderson
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Okay all this Iowa Vandy stuff aside. SEC gets 7 teams in the top 15 and they went 4-10 in bowls with 2 of those games being against SEC teams.
Cool AP, cool.
Cool AP, cool.
USC lost two of their next three after beating Iowa, while Iowa went 3-0 including a bowl win against a ranked team. So right or wrong it is not surprising to see Iowa end up in front of USC. If you have to be placed behind anyone who beat you, the algorithm would go into an infinite loop.
However, when two teams are only a few spaces apart with similar resumes, when they face each other in a bowl game it is surprising to see the loser ranked ahead in the final poll.
Right. So what you're saying is that head to head is less important than overall record and body of work. We agree.
I am reviewing the way these things work, and why it is not surprising Iowa is ranked in front of USC but is surprising that they are not ranked in front of Vandy.
Cause Iowa and USC didn't just play each other and USC was shatting itself the last games of season and bowl.
It's simply the nature of polls. When Vanderbilt and Iowa met at the end of the season, Iowa was ranked 23 and Vanderbilt was ranked 14, which was a huge gap. There was very little reason to believe that a 7 point Iowa victory is going to result in these 2 teams flipping positions. Teams simply don't drop and rise that much because of a single contest outside of some extraordinary event. As it was, Vandy dropped one place and Iowa rose 6 spots, which in and of itself was a huge jump, signaling that the voters saw the outcome as more a reflection of Iowa being better than they thought than Vandy being worse.
In any case, the polls are rife with teams having been beaten by teams ranked below them. This is really a pretty silly discussion.
I think Iowa rising 6 spots was as much a case of Indiana winning the natty and us giving them one of their toughest, if not their toughest game, as it was us beating Vandy head-to-head.
Seriously Bruh, you’re fighting a lost cause defending this abomination of a final pole where Vanderbilt is ranked a few spots ahead of us. Just accept that fact.
I do accept the fact that I'm not some whiny homer complaining about a couple of spots in a meaningless poll.
Regardless of the arguments about relative positioning in the final poll......this will go down as one of the most frustrating Top 20 finishes in program history.
I'd agree with what Rece Davis has there.
The final CBS Poll also proved it's bias...7 SEC schools total with all of them in the Top 15, including Vandy, as opposed to 6 BigTen total, with only 3 in the Top 15. 
www.cbssports.com
CBS Sports 136: Indiana unanimous No. 1 as Big Ten, SEC dominate top 10 in final college football rankings
The Hoosiers were an easy No. 1 after a dominant season, but there was plenty of movement behind them in our final college football rankings of the season
www.cbssports.com
media like to to distort , control reality, as perception is reality. Rather than honor the on the field results, they still will rank Bama and Vanderbilt over big ten teams because the average Joe will just Accept that and it will be history.
espn owns the sec , ACC and 60% of the big 12, they will continue to market their product.
espn owns the sec , ACC and 60% of the big 12, they will continue to market their product.
Why does everyone assume that there's this specific formula that everyone is tasked with following, because there isn't. It's a completely subjective measure conducted by people who have their own inherent biases, many who spend little to no time doing any serious objective analysis. It's not the CFP.
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