Indy ******* ana is national champs

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I cannot believe Indiana won a national championship in football. As of a few years ago, I would’ve said that’d be impossible to see in my lifetime. I would’ve said it would be more likely that Purdue wins one (but also likely impossible).

As an Iowa fan, I am very envious. But can you imagine how Nebraska fans are feeling? So many fan bases look at Indiana and say “that could be us.”

For so long, college football was dominated by just a few teams. I understand why many fans hate the NIL / transfers portal era, but it has increased the pool of teams that can win a national championship.
If they made a movie about Curt Cignetti and the last two years of Indiana football, it would flop, because everyone would say it was too unrealistic.
 

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And his reward will be being shipped off to the Raiders. I feel bad for the kid.
He could probably live for free in Indiana the rest of his life.

imagine him selling State Farm insurance in Bloomington. Be a line out the door for the next 30 years.
 
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Tom Paris

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Iowa is good every year, but NOOOOOO, one of the worst programs in college football history, Indiana, wins a freaking national championship before Iowa. Almost unbelievable.
 
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Let that sink in...
Maybe the biggest miracle since the parting of the Red Sea, but it's fantastic, and I love it. Cignetti came in and said they were going to win, and win now. He didn't come in and say, "Well, we're just little ole Indiana. We've never won anything. We can't compete with the likes of Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Oregon, and USC. We're a developmental program. We'll try hard and do our best, but don't expect miracles." Hell no. Instead, when it was 4th and 5 against a stout Miami defense and an undefeated season and national title were on the line he said, "We're goin' for it." And that gutsy, intelligent call was the difference between winning and losing. So now Indiana is 16-0 and champions of the college football world. Of course, it did take Cignetti two years to get 'er done . . .

Since the unknown Cignetti showed up in Bloomington with a couple dozen of his players from James Madison, the Hoosiers are 27-2 and have won the Big Ten title and the national title.

There aren't enough words to adequately describe what has happened at Indiana. But you can't give Cignetti, his staff, and his players enough credit. After all, saying you're going to do the impossible, and then doing it is, well, . . . .
 

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Congrats to IU. They won this season's round of moneyball.




Sure. All those guys from James Madison came in and took over. It doesn't seem fair, does it? LOL
 

DukeSlater

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What's to question. Its NIL.

Cignetti is a very good coach, but you don't turn a bball school like Indiana into a fball powerhouse without the major influx of cash from Cuban & Mellencamp.
Oh really? Jealous much?

Then how do you explain the FACT that Indiana has EIGHT four- or five-star players while most other CFP teams had at least FORTY? Then again, Indiana swooping in and stealing Cignetti and a couple dozen James Madison players does seem sketchy. LOL
 

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????????

Aren't Minnesota and Ohio State 2 Teams?

I guess you could say Minnesota had a slightly different roster from year to year, but that's not what has transpired recently.
yeah, I think they meant the last time the league won three straight titles
 

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Maybe the biggest miracle since the parting of the Red Sea, but it's fantastic, and I love it. Cignetti came in and said they were going to win, and win now. He didn't come in and say, "Well, we're just little ole Indiana. We've never won anything. We can't compete with the likes of Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Oregon, and USC. We're a developmental program. We'll try hard and do our best, but don't expect miracles." Hell no. Instead, when it was 4th and 5 against a stout Miami defense and an undefeated season and national title were on the line he said, "We're goin' for it." And that gutsy, intelligent call was the difference between winning and losing. So now Indiana is 16-0 and champions of the college football world. Of course, it did take Cignetti two years to get 'er done . . .

Since the unknown Cignetti showed up in Bloomington with a couple dozen of his players from James Madison, the Hoosiers are 27-2 and have won the Big Ten title and the national title.

There aren't enough words to adequately describe what has happened at Indiana. But you can't give Cignetti, his staff, and his players enough credit. After all, saying you're going to do the impossible, and then doing it is, well, . . . .
I still believe Kirk had that fire when he first took over. Bullies of the big10 2002-2004

then something shifted over the next 5-8 years where it became we just do what we do. Assume getting millions of $$$$ and extensions every few years will do that.
But was wonderful to watch a team that basically took all of the Iowa elements

Strong lines
Run the ball
QB who could make plays with arm and legs (Brad Banks)
Discipline / don’t beat yourself

yet pair it with a no fear attitude and look what happened
 

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What's to question. Its NIL.

Cignetti is a very good coach, but you don't turn a bball school like Indiana into a fball powerhouse without the major influx of cash from Cuban & Mellencamp.
Exactly right. Yeah, Cignetti is great but let's not pretend that this is "old pre-NIL Indiana" that found a way to rise up and win it all. NIL has changed everything - must be helpful to have Mark Cuban funding your roster.

I've seen that Indiana's roster was north of $20M this year.
 
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... Hell no. Instead, when it was 4th and 5 against a stout Miami defense and an undefeated season and national title were on the line he said, "We're goin' for it." And that gutsy, intelligent call was the difference between winning and losing. ...
I was glad to see that very gutsy gamble pay off for the Hoosiers. VERY FEW coaches would have taken that risk in that situation IMO. But...IU meant it when they said they were playing to win...and they did.
 
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Mendoza interview he said Miami offered him $3M but he took the $2.5 from Indiana. It all starts with the QB.

Sooo. You're saying that money has "just a little" to do with the Indiana rise.

Truth is in the middle. This quick climb to the top for Indiana wasn't possible before pay for play.

BUT you still need a great coach, system, and culture.... As evidence by the blue bloods that fail to win year after year with massive bank rolls. (Texas, Texas A&M, Penn State, etc)
 
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I cannot believe Indiana won a national championship in football. As of a few years ago, I would’ve said that’d be impossible to see in my lifetime. I would’ve said it would be more likely that Purdue wins one (but also likely impossible).

As an Iowa fan, I am very envious. But can you imagine how Nebraska fans are feeling? So many fan bases look at Indiana and say “that could be us.”

For so long, college football was dominated by just a few teams. I understand why many fans hate the NIL / transfers portal era, but it has increased the pool of teams that can win a national championship.
I would imagine Nebraska fans feel fine, considering they already have 5 national championships
 

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Iowa is good every year, but NOOOOOO, one of the worst programs in college football history, Indiana, wins a freaking national championship before Iowa. Almost unbelievable.
IU winning is a double-edged sword.

On the minus side, it is absolutely galling that IU--which as of early November of this season was STILL the losingest program in the entire history of college football--figured out the secret sauce in 2 years that Iowa still hasn't figured out in nearly 5 decades of being a competitive, winning program. So that part sucks. Also sucks that we may have a newly-minted blue blood (or blue blood lite) in Bloomington to contend with every year on and off the field in addition to the ones we were already trying to catch up to in Columbus, Eugene, State College and Ann Arbor.

On the plus side, as Doodle's football coach was fond of saying, "all excuses are valid, and none will be accepted." All the excuses for not competing at the very highest level of the sport have officially been put out to pasture. None of that sh...stuff is gonna fly anymore. The absolute poster child for college football futility just ran through a 16-game undefeated schedule and won a natty. During that process they beat, in succession, Ohio State, Alabama, Oregon and Miami. All of those games were played away from Bloomington, Indiana. And three of those programs have combined to win THIRTY national championships. Some coaches may still try trotting out the "poor little ol' us" refrain....but the days of fans giving them a free pass on that stuff are officially and irrevocably over.

Indiana winning a FOOTBALL national championship is the very definition of "if they can do it, ANYONE can." Well "anyone", the ball is in your court.
 

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IU winning is a double-edged sword.

On the minus side, it is absolutely galling that IU--which as of early November of this season was STILL the losingest program in the entire history of college football--figured out the secret sauce in 2 years that Iowa still hasn't figured out in nearly 5 decades of being a competitive, winning program. So that part sucks. Also sucks that we may have a newly-minted blue blood (or blue blood lite) in Bloomington to contend with every year on and off the field in addition to the ones we were already trying to catch up to in Columbus, Eugene, State College and Ann Arbor.

On the plus side, as Doodle's football coach was fond of saying, "all excuses are valid, and none will be accepted." All the excuses for not competing at the very highest level of the sport have officially been put out to pasture. None of that sh...stuff is gonna fly anymore. The absolute poster child for college football futility just ran through a 16-game undefeated schedule and won a natty. During that process they beat, in succession, Ohio State, Alabama, Oregon and Miami. All of those games were played away from Bloomington, Indiana. And three of those programs have combined to win THIRTY national championships. Some coaches may still try trotting out the "poor little ol' us" refrain....but the days of fans giving them a free pass on that stuff are officially and irrevocably over.

Indiana winning a FOOTBALL national championship is the very definition of "if they can do it, ANYONE can." Well "anyone", the ball is in your court.
I agree completely except for one thing...Iowa fans will continue to accept "pretty good". But outside of our trained way to think, you are spot on!
 
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On 3rd & 5 with 2:06 to go in the game (Iowa & Indiana were tied at 13), Kirk DID NOT turtle up.

After the game, OC Tim Lester said this on the screen call vs IU: "It was there. It would've been a touchdown (where Iowa would have gone up 20-13 with under 2 minutes to play)."

Our starting QB was out with a knee injury; nevertheless, it was a play backup QB Hank Brown should have made. It was an easy throw. The coaches were playing to win with a play that was perfectly set up & according to Tim Lester would have resulted in a TD.

The next play (on 4th & 5), of course, was a 42 yard missed Drew Stevens FG.

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If they made a movie about Curt Cignetti and the last two years of Indiana football, it would flop, because everyone would say it was too unrealistic.
HOOSIERS II is in the works.
 
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Maybe the biggest miracle since the parting of the Red Sea, but it's fantastic, and I love it. Cignetti came in and said they were going to win, and win now. He didn't come in and say, "Well, we're just little ole Indiana. We've never won anything. We can't compete with the likes of Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Oregon, and USC. We're a developmental program. We'll try hard and do our best, but don't expect miracles." Hell no. Instead, when it was 4th and 5 against a stout Miami defense and an undefeated season and national title were on the line he said, "We're goin' for it." And that gutsy, intelligent call was the difference between winning and losing. So now Indiana is 16-0 and champions of the college football world. Of course, it did take Cignetti two years to get 'er done . . .

Since the unknown Cignetti showed up in Bloomington with a couple dozen of his players from James Madison, the Hoosiers are 27-2 and have won the Big Ten title and the national title.

There aren't enough words to adequately describe what has happened at Indiana. But you can't give Cignetti, his staff, and his players enough credit. After all, saying you're going to do the impossible, and then doing it is, well, . . . .
I can't believe how good they got in all 3 phases of the game. With the exception of Mendoza, most of their players were very underated. Their RBs are phenomonal.
 

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Cig does does more in 2 F ing years than Fry and KF did in 5 decades! at Indiana INDIANA
Cig legend ... Fry and KF amateur hour

Take more work and chances than KF would ever want ...he is comfortable, just look how he schedules and lack of big wins over 27 years!
Cig did more in 2 at Freaking INDY !!! pathetic really
You do realize that it's possible to commend Cig for the amazing job he's done without ripping on Iowa's football program, right?. What Cig has done may never be duplicated again at a similar program, and although Iowa's program hovering in what many might describe as football purgatory for many years now drives me nuts at times, there are a lot of programs that would like to have Iowa's history of success.
 

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The model is there with how the portal & NIL works.

Instead of recruiting specific guys that fit your team/model, you’re able to skip the dating & go straight for the marriage, sort of speak.

Teams are able to dial in the type of player they need & are landing them at nearly a perfect rate, with the payments.

Look at Nebraska basketball, etc.

Instead of striking out on your wish list for a myriad of reasons, you’re hitting at a much higher clip that takes your team from good to great, and in short order.

This really is perfect for competitive balance. The only thing I’d want changed is the amount $ being flung around, and the number of times you’re able to transfer.
 

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The model is there with how the portal & NIL works.

Instead of recruiting specific guys that fit your team/model, you’re able to skip the dating & go straight for the marriage, sort of speak.

Teams are able to dial in the type of player they need & are landing them at nearly a perfect rate, with the payments.

Look at Nebraska basketball, etc.

Instead of striking out on your wish list for a myriad of reasons, you’re hitting at a much higher clip that takes your team from good to great, and in short order.

This really is perfect for competitive balance. The only thing I’d want changed is the amount $ being flung around, and the number of times you’re able to transfer.
Fred need to coach the football team too?
 

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Sooo. You're saying that money has "just a little" to do with the Indiana rise.

Truth is in the middle. This quick climb to the top for Indiana wasn't possible before pay for play.

BUT you still need a great coach, system, and culture.... As evidence by the blue bloods that fail to win year after year with massive bank rolls. (Texas, Texas A&M, Penn State, etc)
Mendoza was a 2 star QB coming out of high school. He was originally going to Yale. Let’s not act like he was some 5 star guy. He’s worked hard and also was well coached up by IU. 2.5 is the going rate for a solid QB like it or not. We paid Gronowski 1.5, right? And the guy that blocked the punt last night? James Madison.
 

The Big Z

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IU winning is a double-edged sword.

On the minus side, it is absolutely galling that IU--which as of early November of this season was STILL the losingest program in the entire history of college football--figured out the secret sauce in 2 years that Iowa still hasn't figured out in nearly 5 decades of being a competitive, winning program. So that part sucks. Also sucks that we may have a newly-minted blue blood (or blue blood lite) in Bloomington to contend with every year on and off the field in addition to the ones we were already trying to catch up to in Columbus, Eugene, State College and Ann Arbor.

On the plus side, as Doodle's football coach was fond of saying, "all excuses are valid, and none will be accepted." All the excuses for not competing at the very highest level of the sport have officially been put out to pasture. None of that sh...stuff is gonna fly anymore. The absolute poster child for college football futility just ran through a 16-game undefeated schedule and won a natty. During that process they beat, in succession, Ohio State, Alabama, Oregon and Miami. All of those games were played away from Bloomington, Indiana. And three of those programs have combined to win THIRTY national championships. Some coaches may still try trotting out the "poor little ol' us" refrain....but the days of fans giving them a free pass on that stuff are officially and irrevocably over.

Indiana winning a FOOTBALL national championship is the very definition of "if they can do it, ANYONE can." Well "anyone", the ball is in your court.
Post of the year.
 

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Ray Lewis was charged with double murder in 2000 after two men were stabbed to death outside an Atlanta Super Bowl party. He pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice, with murder charges dropped after he testified against his companions.
Correct, but did Ray buy those lower charges. Between Lewis and Rice pounding hid women friend to pulp I have never liked the ravens.