Bo Nix out for the rest of the playoffs
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Great game, brutal ending. What a gut punch for Broncos fans
Makes it even worse that Allen imploded. What a waste, and 3 more Wildcats out of the Super Bowl hunt
Hopefully Houston knocks out the Patriots now that the Broncos just lost Nix. I really don’t want to hear my obnoxious in-laws gloat over New England any longer.
That was a BS interception receiver didn’t have control. They call that a non catch all the time. Allen is Superman and does whatever he can to help them win. The defense let him down yet again.
Houston’s defense is ridiculous.
makes me sick...dewey Stidham and howe? !!
Absolutely. They just let their front four go to work. Sacked Josh Allen 8 times this year. They are no joke!
Any defense these days in the NFL that can be good with the silly defensive rules they have gets mad respect from me.
Ball never hit the ground. Receiver didn’t complete all 3 phases and the db did. The ball was caught by someone either way as it never hit the ground.
Now go get 8 more on Drake Maye! Kayshon Boutte gave them some bulletin board material with his comments.
Lol. How did the Bills defense make him turn the ball over the other 4 times? Goh with that whiney bs. He's a great player, and one that I cheer for, but he, like LJackson, has fumbled in the big moments to this point. That sucks, but there's no walking away from it.
As far as calling the interception goes- if the ball never hit the ground before someone gains control and that control survives the receivers contact with the ground, it's a catch.
The issue with the INT is that the defender didn't take the ball away from the receiver until after the receiver made the catch and was downed by contact. You can't call it an interception by rule, just as you cant call some of the fumble recoveries by some of the teams given the ball this year, after someone has gained possession on the ground, and only lost it after someone jumps on them on the ground post-recovery.
The bottom line is either the league didn't want the Bills to win and/or the officials decided the outcome. The excuse will be the other 4 TOs meant they "didn't deserve" to win, which is no valid reason. They were screwed, but they also put themselves into position to be screwed. Shouldn't have gone to OT. Bills should have won the game in regulstion.
I think the Patriots will get all of the calls. Bigger fan base on paper than the Texans. League wants the greater ad revenue. Will be hoping Houston wins, but know it's hard to win a poorly officiated game.
Sucks for Denver & now it's gonna be either the Texans or Patriots from the AFC in the SB. No way Denver wins with Stidham.
I believe your response was meant for someone else in this thread. My post is about the Pats/Texans game.
The bias in calling PI alone was the deciding factor in the game. That INT was just symptomatic of the overall bias against Buffalo.
Yep. My browser glitched on me. It also keeps reloading my previous replies in new posts. Kinda frustrating
Receiver completed all 3 phases. Tie goes to the offensive player. If a receiver hits the ground with contact from a defender without losing control, a defender cannot then take the ball out of their hands and run up field. The play is dead when the receiver is downed by contact with control. If he doesn't have control, and/or any part of the ball makes contact with the ground, it's not a catch, and can only be an INT if 1) the defender gains control of the ball before the receiver hits the ground and maintains that control through their own contact with the ground, OR 2) if the receiver loses control when hitting the ground and the defender gains control without either player letting the ball touch the ground.
It didn't look like the criteria for an INT was met.
Riddle me this, if the ball came loose, instead of going to the hands of the defender, and hit the ground, would it have been a fumble or incomplete pass?
I agree the turnovers were costly but he still led them to 30 points which is plenty to win a game in the playoffs. Still a BS call in the most important call of the game. No review is criminal. I don’t have a dog in the fight. The Bills need to go get Allen a top flight WR. He is ridiculously good and they have everything else needed to win a SB right now.
Even their back end is ridiculous, best tacklers I’ve seen in a long time. Nobody gets extra yards against them. They come up and cover everything.
Houston, we have a problem…
With the QB
the defense is stacked but CJ is too shaky to beat New England
With the QB
the defense is stacked but CJ is too shaky to beat New England
He has his games, NE is gonna be tough. The Titans were so dumb to fire Vrabel. He was starting to turn them around and because Levis was a young they totally screwed him over and the team. Now they really suck.
Agree
Levis definitely had his problems, especially in his pocket presence. Cam Ward is worse and he is getting all kinds of praise.
Vrabel changed his style a bit since going to NE. He’s a little more of a players coach than he was in Nashville
Bills kind of get the shaft, again. In most circumstances, thats a catch. If its Mahomes or Brady thats 100% a catch. And those final two PIs, were a little ticky tacky especially when Denver got a away with a ton of PIs.
Not sure why the NFL hates Josh Allen and Buffalo so much. Last year they spotted the ball short on them like 7 times and the outrage was enough to force the NFL to put technology in the ball so this doesnt happen again. But we know why.. Taylor swift bringing $300mil in revenue to the superbowl just for the chiefs to be there.
And now the Pats get an incredible break.. Bo Nix broken ankle? He sure seemed fine at the end of the game. Did they have an x-ray machine on the sidelines? They played the easiest schedule in 25 years I think, and now get to play against backup Stidham (if they beat Houston, which they will).
Not sure why the NFL hates Josh Allen and Buffalo so much. Last year they spotted the ball short on them like 7 times and the outrage was enough to force the NFL to put technology in the ball so this doesnt happen again. But we know why.. Taylor swift bringing $300mil in revenue to the superbowl just for the chiefs to be there.
And now the Pats get an incredible break.. Bo Nix broken ankle? He sure seemed fine at the end of the game. Did they have an x-ray machine on the sidelines? They played the easiest schedule in 25 years I think, and now get to play against backup Stidham (if they beat Houston, which they will).
IMO there isnt a QB out there who could get this Bills team to 5 wins. That roster was that weak and they were down to practice squad players for their offense.
Im very much a Josh Allen fan and very high on him.. but IMO hes a top5 QB of all time. And hes had a heck of a lot more adversity to deal with than guys like Mahomes and Brady. His performance against Jax with the team he had is more impressive than maybe any single Brady playoff win. Maybe the comeback against Atlanta in the SB is up there.
A lot of QBs could take those Chiefs and Patriots teams to the playoffs.. but no QB is winning with that the Bills put out there over the last two seasons. If im starting a franchise from scratch, im strongly considering him being my #1 QB over anyone else.
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Yeah he deserves to get some big time help. Buffalo better go all in to try and get him a SB. He’s in his absolute prime.
ARTICLE 3. COMPLETED OR INTERCEPTED PASS
A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) in the field of play, at the sideline, or in the end zone if a player, who is inbounds:
- secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and
- touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and
- after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, clearly performs any act common to the game (e.g., extend the ball forward, take an additional step, tuck the ball away and turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so.
In no way did the receiver complete the football move and instantly losing the ball doesn’t meet the criteria of controlling the ball long enough. The review that was done was extremely quick because it no fashion did the receiver maintain control long enough, nor did he take an additional step, extend the ball or tuck and turn upfield.
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They're doing everything they can to make every call a judgment call, which this clearly was. I don't agree with the call that Cooks wasn't in possession through contact with the ground. The defender doesn't have any control of the ball until after Cooks hits the ground.
The rule itself violates the spirit and foundation of the completed pass.
If a receiver catches the ball on the way to the ground and prevents it from hitting the ground, according to this rule the ball is still live and no catch has been made, BECAUSE there isn't "a clear football move" after the catch, and THAT IS COMPLETE HORSESHT.
AGAIN, if this was an INT because of that rule, any defender can walk up to a receiver that is down and take the ball away while they are lying there on the field of play before "making a football move" to "complete the catch." That's completely asinine, and the rule created to make something that was clearly indisputable before into something vague.
I don't mind if anyone disagrees.
The BIGGER issue is the bias in PI calls clearly shows that the league or these officials did not want Buffalo to advance. There is ZERO mention as of 6am of the FACT that a Denver DB clearly and irrefutably interferes with a Buffalo receiver at the end zone during regulation by pulling his arm down before and during an attempt to catch the ball.
That's illegal contact and a spot foul. First and goal Buffalo at the 1 yard line. Yet, no call.
Then 2 PI calls on Buffalo to keep Denver drives alive and put them in FG range in OT. Sketchy at best. Rigged? 66% likelihood at least. Lol.
(In real time, I get why the official makes the INT call. I don't think that's at all sketchy. That's actually part of what makes this rule such bullsht, because you as an official have to lean towards what's called on the field, before you ever see what is clearly shown in the replay. That is the FACT that he has possession and control at contact with the ground and only after that does the defender gain control and forcibly the ball away.)
It’s a joke. I've never seen a team get luckier. They had the eaisest regular season schedule in 25 years, per the data. Then facing Houston with Nico Collins out and then Denver with Stidham if they win. Unreal.
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I have to agree with almost all of this. If Buffalo took the Bellicheat/NewEngland track many years ago, they'd have a few trophies by now. They've stayed within the rules, and imo way underspent, and have no SB hardware to show for it. Jim Kelly was a great QB. Allen is as well. They're just a couple big pieces or a few Injuries short every time.
I thought the receiver had the ball when they went to the ground and the DB took it away as they were rolling over. Should have been a catch and down by contact IMO.
He had possession and one knee down before it was taken away. It was a catch. Gene Stairotore was obviously rooting for Denver. Josh has been quietly "blackballed" by many for those very old tweets of his IMO.
NFL, media, and officiating hate small market teams and always have. Unless they have the reach of the Packers or NE, they do NOT want to see them in the big games. Decreases revenue. N
We all know why no one wants to call an outdoor game in Buffalo in Jan
The only way the corruption changes is if revenue is threatened. There are too many women and win-at-all-costs fans watching now that don't care about cheating unless it hurts their team. I'm still pissed they called back the touchdown Joey Porter Jr knocked out of the receiver's hands, and I'm a huge Steelers fan. That was a *&%#ing TD!
IF people get vocal and stop watching, it will change (on the surface), but in the end it will always be corruptible. They're making new rules vague on purpose. That's just one reason I don't tune in to much of it anymore. I will watch if it's on when I'm out somewhere or at a friend's place, but I'm not putting on my screen at home and certainly not buying tickets.
Sure looks like it. I hope Houston wins, but no way I'm holding my breath
Agreed. Even the Steelers with a makeshift defensive backfield were able to shake him up a bunch. Houston only scoring 7pts heading into the 4th quarter was either pretty impressive or just revealing about Stroud.
Said the very same thing during the Steelers game. Pittsburgh's idiot OC called the game perfectly for Houston. It should've been an even bigger massacre than it wound up. I expected much worse from the minute the matchup was announced.
I don't think I've even seen a tteamtackle THIS GOOD at DB across the board. Bears in 86 maybe. Steel Curtain D? Still can't think of one that had this many so good at defending the entire field sideline to sideline.
Yep. Shouldve been 34 if not for the officiating. They werent stopping the Bills from scoring from the 1 yard line.
THE most important call was the no call on the clear defensive PI on Denver at the goal line in regulation.
Completely rigged not to get that call. Nothing else surprised me after that point. I had no doubt they were going to get the INT call (regardless of review) and the PI calls against them.
I think Allen needs Wandale.