Shoutout to Coach Braun

EvanstonCat

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You have a Q room which is basically a pipeline that you are trying to develop to a point where they can take the reigns. The potential of the pipeline was basically exposed in 2019, when it was shown that Hunter Johnson was a bust and further broken when our 2020 recruit, Aiden Atkinson was arrested. The best of what was there was Aiden Smith and Andrew Marty. There was no one in the QB room capable of being a valid starter. That was what Jake walked into. The best that they could do was try to find stopgap and try to rebuild the pipeline at the same time, They fortunately were able to secure the services of Ramsey for 2020 but that was a stopgap.

2020 and 2021 was the COVID period and recruiting in that period was pretty difficult After the Atkinson situation blew up Jake walked into a scramble situation. Ramsey was a good addition for one year but we had nothing in the pipeline, They scrambled to get Richardson, For 2021 the developmental recruit that Jake brought in was Sullivan. (in 2023, he was a serviceable backup but did not stick around) For 22 they brought in Hilinsky to again fill the gap but he was too inconsistent, And also brought in Lausch who ended up starting last year. In 23 Bryant was brought in again to fill the gap.

At issue was that when Jake got here, the pieline was a shambleswith no one viable and during one of the most difficult times to be able to recruit for the most important position, Stop gaps needed to be emplyed and a couple were successful while others were not while we were trying to rebuild out QB room pipeline. For a program like ours since we are not getting guys off the top of the heap, it takes at least a couple years to get them to a point where they can be of service, The guys we brought in were just getting to that 2 year mark
Excuses excuses excuses. Explain all you will about how craptastic our offense and qb situation have been and ignore the results. They were putrid and they needed to be changed. There’s no excusing it.
 

katatonic2

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Again, look at what we had in QB room in development when Jake got here to replace McCall, We had a serviceable QB transfer for 2020 in Ramsey but that Covid year really handcuffed us in development and recruiting. In 2021 and 2022, the cupboard was pretty bare.

Because we were a D first team, It will be interesting to see what happens with Kelly. There is danger with the short (time) possession O for a D first team

Sorry but it is not only money, We still only have access to a fraction of the talent pool that other programs have access to, Up until recently we also had an administration that was not that supportive. And a student body that showed more disdain than support for the program

I believe that the transfer QBs we have brought in with NIL and through the portal were after Jake was fired. Prior to that I believe that they may have had more in the way of standards and limitations, That said, Wright was offered when in HS, Cannot find an NU offer for Stone but he did have a really good offer list with about 20 P2 offers including OSU, USC, PSU, ND, Mich, AL and plenty more, HJ and Hilinsky were offered out of HS. Ramsey was recruited out of HS but don't see an NU offer. With Bryant don't see interest out of HS

Problem was that the program kept missing out on its top QB targets (after Thorson) 'since what talented QB would want to play in a turtle-O with no good WRs and a mediocre at best O-line?

That's on Fitz for sticking with fossil FB and not being able to develop a decent O-line (now, fossil FB can be successful if you are dominant in the trenches, but that was never going to happen under Fitz).

Poor scheme/coaching and mediocre O-line play is also why the program had so many bad losses like Army, ISU, etc.

Despite the level of success under Fitz (playing in the mediocre B1GW), those bad losses and those awful last few seasons under Fitz is why NU FB is more seen like the dark era days.

That's why CFB talking heads make reference that NU FB could be the "next Vandy" even tho they were Vandy before Vandy...

And you can be both D-oriented and O-oriented, you know, an actual complementary FB team (see the Hoosiers).

Or, at the very least, be very good on one side and competent on the other (as opposed to being totally incompetent on one side; like what happened too often towards the end of Fitz's tenure).
 
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katatonic2

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Btw, thus far, the Cats are ranked 28th by 247 with regard to transfer classes (10 commits; 2 4* and 6 3*) whereas Sparty is ranked 34th (20 commits; 16 3*).