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Keep seeing post after post and talking head after talking head going on and on about how great Cignetti is. And it's hard to argue with his results. Then I think about almost everything Rhule has done and unfortunately, we have to face the harsh reality that he's not even close. In fact he's the exact opposite in just about every aspect. If Cignetti or that type of coach is what it takes to win these days, we are screwed.

I know we're stuck with him at least this year. And I know folks are getting tired of all the negativity. Fine. Instead of wishing he'd get fired, is it too much to ask that he act like a f*cking grown up head coach and take this sh*t seriously?
 
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Man Woman & Child said:
Keep seeing post after post and talking head after talking head going on and on about how great Cignetti is. And it's hard to argue with his results. Then I think about almost everything Rhule has done and unfortunately, we have to face the harsh reality that he's not even close. In fact he's the exact opposite in just about every aspect. If Cignetti or that type of coach is what it takes to win these days, we are screwed.

I know we're stuck with him at least this year. And I know folks are getting tired of all the negativity. Fine. Instead of wishing he'd get fired, is it too much to ask that he act like a f*cking grown up head coach and take this sh*t seriously?
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Cignetti is as rare as a unicorn. The vast majority of college football coaches simply are not him.
 
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moralvictories said:
Cignetti is as rare as a unicorn. The vast majority of college football coaches simply are not him.
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Because most of them buy into the crap...

Culture this and that...development this and that...it takes time and time and time.

Imagine having 100% control over your team and who is on it, each year, and you still don't fix the problems.

Rhule can't even hire a DL coach.
 
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Man Woman & Child said:
Keep seeing post after post and talking head after talking head going on and on about how great Cignetti is. And it's hard to argue with his results. Then I think about almost everything Rhule has done and unfortunately, we have to face the harsh reality that he's not even close. In fact he's the exact opposite in just about every aspect. If Cignetti or that type of coach is what it takes to win these days, we are screwed.

I know we're stuck with him at least this year. And I know folks are getting tired of all the negativity. Fine. Instead of wishing he'd get fired, is it too much to ask that he act like a f*cking grown up head coach and take this sh*t seriously?
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Next year will be exciting for two reasons

1. To see how crazy Rhule goes with game plans because he knows it is his last year
2. To see if Dannen/Dannon actually has the balls to go hire the Hoosier DC instead of some career 500 coach
 
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Man Woman & Child said:
Keep seeing post after post and talking head after talking head going on and on about how great Cignetti is. And it's hard to argue with his results. Then I think about almost everything Rhule has done and unfortunately, we have to face the harsh reality that he's not even close. In fact he's the exact opposite in just about every aspect. If Cignetti or that type of coach is what it takes to win these days, we are screwed.

I know we're stuck with him at least this year. And I know folks are getting tired of all the negativity. Fine. Instead of wishing he'd get fired, is it too much to ask that he act like a f*cking grown up head coach and take this sh*t seriously?
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If you hate to say it, why do you do it? The fact is you love to say it. We REALLY needed another new thread trashing Rhule.
 
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moralvictories said:
Cignetti is as rare as a unicorn. The vast majority of college football coaches simply are not him.
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Rhule is also just not a good person. From his first story of him saying he didn't know if he would "want to come to Lincoln", as an unemployed coach, to then leveraging nebraska to pay him an irresponsible contract, to then blaming his wife for keeping him in Lincoln rather than taking the "PSU" job, which then pushed him to leverage us for another extension, to hiring children of friends, and friends at ST and OC, and DC, to criticizing fans for not supporting his BFF OC who he was then forced to remove like four games later, to keeping the uncle of a 5 star qb at the most important position and acting and lying that he was a great coach, to wasting recruiting time and money on the brother of 5 star qb, and eventually being forced to fire uncle and lose both qbs, to being forced to actually coach a position by his buddy after THREE years and 25 million and then acting like it is some unique thing that a head coach would actually step in and coach the weakest position on the field. Jesus christ...comparing him to Cignetti is criminal.
 
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SuperBigFan69 said:
Next year will be exciting for two reasons

1. To see how crazy Rhule goes with game plans because he knows it is his last year
2. To see if Dannen/Dannon actually has the balls to go hire the Hoosier DC instead of some career 500 coach
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I don't know when the bye week is next year but Rhule will be fired somewhere after the Illinois game, we will be 3-6...the wheels will completely fall off. The hope is that Aurich is a really good coach, we should know pretty early if our defense is better, and maybe he can interim in. He would be the only young guy with a pulse who could have the ability to whip this thing into shape. Obviously this thing takes a lot of luck with coaches. Nebraska might hire 100 coaches before they get another Osborne or Devaney, just have to hope that the 1% chance pops.
 
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moralvictories said:
Hire an unproven DC who has never been a head coach. Yeah, that sounds like a recipe for success.
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Unproven? I mean, he is about to win a NC as the DC for IU.

The dorks that wanted Rhule and his "experience" look like morons. That experience was being a lame coach and that is what we got.

Lanning was DC with no experience as a HC, right?
Marcus Freeman was never a head coach.
Kirby Smart was never a HC

In theory never NO ONE is ever a HC until they are.
 
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SuperBigFan69 said:
Unproven? I mean, he is about to win a NC as the DC for IU.

The dorks that wanted Rhule and his "experience" look like morons. That experience was being a lame coach and that is what we got.

Lanning was DC with no experience as a HC, right?
Marcus Freeman was never a head coach.
Kirby Smart was never a HC

In theory never NO ONE is ever a HC until they are.
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Not all DC's make good head coaches.
 
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Unproven? I mean, he is about to win a NC as the DC for IU.

The dorks that wanted Rhule and his "experience" look like morons. That experience was being a lame coach and that is what we got.

Lanning was DC with no experience as a HC, right?
Marcus Freeman was never a head coach.
Kirby Smart was never a HC

In theory never NO ONE is ever a HC until they are.
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At the very least, you get on the phone with the guy for 30 minutes and say if you were the head coach here what would you do to win? We have the resources, but we need a leader.
 
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Meh, Rhule sucks dong, but actually Frost was worse. Now, I speak from the position that we used to be a blue blood and were a badass program, but the further we get from 1997, the more irrelevant we become.
And sadly the admin doesn’t give a flying sh(i)t about football results
So I guess I won’t either
At least I’ll have the 90s I guess
 
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I like the idea of Vigen and his offensive and defensive philosophies seem like a good fit. He learned under Bohl who had that history and connection to NU and put that system into place at NDSU.

The Indiana DC is obviously going to get some head coaching opportunities and he would be fun to see.

Jedd Fisch at UW also seems to consistently improve wherever he is.

The problem with Rhule is after each offseason there isn’t improvement and during the season there isn’t. So even if he does great in recruiting and the portal it has ended up in basically the same product on the field regardless of the players. Sloppy, undisciplined, soft.
 
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Let’s put Cignetti to the side for a minute. I feel like a lot of mediocre coaches are banding together and saying “Well… I’m not Cignetti, but who is?’

i just don’t want CIgnetti to distract from the fact a dozen or two other programs that have traditionally been far below ours are having so much more success than us. Vanderbilt, Tulane, North Texas, Texas Tech, and the list goes on.

Rather than address, Cignetti, I’d like to hear Rhule talk about these programs which are outperforming us with less money and resources.
 
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Let’s put Cignetti to the side for a minute. I feel like a lot of mediocre coaches are banding together and saying “Well… I’m not Cignetti, but who is?’

i just don’t want CIgnetti to distract from the fact a dozen or two other programs that have traditionally been far below ours are having so much more success than us. Vanderbilt, Tulane, North Texas, Texas Tech, and the list goes on.

Rather than address, Cignetti, I’d like to hear Rhule talk about these programs which are outperforming us with less money and resources.
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You won’t. He will blame Scott frost instead
 
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this is 100% true

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This is such an over-simplification. There are plenty of people who value different things other than "achievement", like spending time with their kids or spouses, or parents or giving time and effort to people who won't make them rich. And to think that winning football games is an "achievement", in one of the easiest places to win in the sport historically. Saban is a dancing monkey, an entertainer, he did his job of dancing on stage for the masses but Saban is also an absolute narcissist. He gave his time and energy to help the greatest athletes in America win so he could become stinking rich. For every Saban there are 100 great high school coaches who give their time and effort to help other humans who might be less athletic but just as worthy of attention and assistance, who will likely become more important people in society as adults than washed up NFL rbs, wrs, and lbs. The lack of awareness that Nick has to have to act like he is a moral authority of any kind is sickening. He got paid about 40 surgeons worth of money to win some football games at an amateur institution that cheated to do it. He didn't save a single life, or help a single person without advancing his own agenda first. The guy who shows up to fix your AC or HVAC is more valuable to the world than Nick Saban.
 
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SuperBigFan69 said:
Unproven? I mean, he is about to win a NC as the DC for IU.

The dorks that wanted Rhule and his "experience" look like morons. That experience was being a lame coach and that is what we got.

Lanning was DC with no experience as a HC, right?
Marcus Freeman was never a head coach.
Kirby Smart was never a HC

In theory never NO ONE is ever a HC until they are.
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College football fans are pretty stupid by nature and I think pretty over-reactive. This means people want the thing that isn't the thing that just failed. People viewed Frost as inexperienced, adolescent, immature. It would have been really hard to hire another relatively young, petulant, inexperienced coach after Frost. And I am sure that after Rhule, people will be ok with a nobody, a no name, a young firebrand, maybe doesn't speak too well but brings energy and creativity, and doesn't hire his friends.
 
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College football fans are pretty stupid by nature and I think pretty over-reactive. This means people want the thing that isn't the thing that just failed. People viewed Frost as inexperienced, adolescent, immature. It would have been really hard to hire another relatively young, petulant, inexperienced coach after Frost. And I am sure that after Rhule, people will be ok with a nobody, a no name, a young firebrand, maybe doesn't speak too well but brings energy and creativity, and doesn't hire his friends.
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This is probably pretty accurate.
 
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Cignetti has been winning for a long time it's just been at the lower level and lets face it the big time schools don't trust giving the keys to someone who they view as unproven. He's improved teams he's coached and if anyone had been paying attention to this guy he would have been higher on the list of most every school.

I know I sure didn't know about him and found his statements brash and laughable during his first few interviews but no one is laughing now. It's time people start looking beyond the same old retreads when coaching hires come up and really start do some real research and I'm talking about the people who have Troy Dannen's ear.
 
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Cignetti has been winning for a long time it's just been at the lower level and lets face it the big time schools don't trust giving the keys to someone who they view as unproven. He's improved teams he's coached and if anyone had been paying attention to this guy he would have been higher on the list of most every school.

I know I sure didn't know about him and found his statements brash and laughable during his first few interviews but no one is laughing now. It's time people start looking beyond the same old retreads when coaching hires come up and really start do some real research and I'm talking about the people who have Troy Dannen's ear.
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There is a lot of evidence that top of conference power 4 school are held to the fire by a small group of agents that represent a vast majority of "acceptable" coaches. If your AD does not interview or consider this list of coaches, and does not play the game where the agents can get extensions or new jobs for their coaches then the agents will blacklist the school. This overtly happened with Penn State. Franklin is represented by a VERY influential agent and he was done dirty by Penn State according to said agent. No other coach represented by the AGENCY would consider Penn State and they had to fall back to a relative nobody. All this being said because Cignetti was an outsider who could really only be hired by a program who wasn't afraid of alienating the "big time" coaches and agents. This cartel keeps the same coaches cycling through the richest programs get the endless extensions and bloated contracts. Nobody cared about Indiana, and so Indiana had the freedom to work outside the system, and it just so happens that coaches outside the system might be damn good.
 
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We need to just strive for where everybody outside of the state of Nebraska pegged us after TO walked off the campus - and that was a mid tier football team, no matter conference we were in. We haven’t lived up to that for quite some time, but I think we can get back to that.

We can be Minnesota with some more modern trophies (with our latest ones sponsored by Sears, which the Huskers look a lot like these days). It won’t happen next year, but I think Rhule has the ability to get us to the middle of the pack, and that’s where our hapless program should be content with.

We had our unicorn moment when Bob Devaney was hired, but that ran its course and the reality of Nebraska football after TO is what we have witnessed since his last recruit graduated from the university.
 
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There is a lot of evidence that top of conference power 4 school are held to the fire by a small group of agents that represent a vast majority of "acceptable" coaches. If your AD does not interview or consider this list of coaches, and does not play the game where the agents can get extensions or new jobs for their coaches then the agents will blacklist the school. This overtly happened with Penn State. Franklin is represented by a VERY influential agent and he was done dirty by Penn State according to said agent. No other coach represented by the AGENCY would consider Penn State and they had to fall back to a relative nobody. All this being said because Cignetti was an outsider who could really only be hired by a program who wasn't afraid of alienating the "big time" coaches and agents. This cartel keeps the same coaches cycling through the richest programs get the endless extensions and bloated contracts. Nobody cared about Indiana, and so Indiana had the freedom to work outside the system, and it just so happens that coaches outside the system might be damn good.
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It's really the wealthy donors who control who they want as a coach. I doubt Mark Cuban could care less what agents tried to tell him. When Scott Frost was hired at Nebraska the big donors put the pressure on the AD to get him on board and it happened with little search.
 
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Winners hate to lose. Hate it. But when losing becomes normal it becomes acceptable. And when losing becomes acceptable it becomes a cancer that is almost impossible to treat. Matt Rhule is filled with this cancer.

when you’ve lost as much as Matt has lost, you learn to live with it. You get the mentality “well get them next times”. And when you get to that winning is hard to do.

Guys like Cignetti, Day, Urban, and Nick would kill someone if they experienced Matt’s coaching history.

He’s goldfish in a world of sharks.

About the only thing I haven’t figured out about Matt is does he like coaching or does he just want the money.

cause if he’d care about winning, he’d take a paycutt. But he’s the kind of guy that turns in receipts for $2.47 expecting to be reimbuersed from the company cause he bought a co-worker a cup of coffee
 
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konaki said:
It's really the wealthy donors who control who they want as a coach. I doubt Mark Cuban could care less what agents tried to tell him. When Scott Frost was hired at Nebraska the big donors put the pressure on the AD to get him on board and it happened with little search.
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Mark Cuban gave no money to Indiana football until very recently. He gave six million to help build a rugby facility before donating to the football program. They were on their own because they sucked. They had the freedom to hire Cignetti because nobody cares about Indiana football, then Cuban came in and has upped his "gifts" as it has shown to give payback. Donors have no say in who is hired for a new job when the deck is cleared. Now if Scott Frost or Zac Taylor or Tom Osborne Jr. is available, there might be some pressure to hire the legacy guy, but if it is just a nationwide search for the best talent, that goes to a search agency, who works with the agents of the top coaches, they all get "feelers", they all get extensions, and if any of them want to come to Nebraska, then Nebraska has to bend over take it and give them irresponsible contracts. I guarantee if the donors say no, the AD goes to them and says, "do you ever want a chance at a big name coach again?", "then you need to be onboard". If you guys knew what was going on behind the scenes it would sicken you, but we know what is going on in front of the scenes because our awful coach is still owed like 80 million for beating Cincinnati. That doesn't happen "accidently" over and over and over again. Why does it happen to Nebraska...well because we have the money and the desperation to win again but not the leverage of fans stopping their support. So the gravy train flows as if we are donating to watch the sisters of the poor.
 
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