Minnesota - ICE Agent Shoots Woman Protester In Car - Happened Again - Both Justified

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thing is, we have a process for dealing with this.

I know it's not a favored comment, but like in so many instances, the whole thing could have been avoided is she just obeyed the officer's command to get out of the car.
I will never understand why someone feels the need to insert themselves into situations that don’t concern them. Get angry when the authorities ask you to leave. Disobey the authorities. Try to flee from them with one of them in front of you. Then get upset that an incident occurred. It’s not her job to go white knighting for illegals, it’s inanity. Now her children will grow up without a mom because she was so wrapped up in protecting illegals she lost her life. Ironically she died for people that don’t belong here, shouldn’t be here and should be sent home. This was the definition of avoidable. It’s tragic.
 

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stfu about reparations dude jesus

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Trust me. That’s exactly how I feel literally every post that guy makes. It’s like knowing someone believes the earth is flat, you can’t ignore it. So every post he makes has that asterisk beside of, this guy is all in on reparations, and had tripled down. He’s still not budging on it. I have no patience for that garbage.
 

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I will never understand why someone feels the need to insert themselves into situations that don’t concern them. Get angry when the authorities ask you to leave. Disobey the authorities. Try to flee from them with one of them in front of you. Then get upset that an incident occurred. It’s not her job to go white knighting for illegals, it’s inanity. Now her children will grow up without a mom because she was so wrapped up in protecting illegals she lost her life. Ironically she died for people that don’t belong here, shouldn’t be here and should be sent home. This was the definition of avoidable. It’s tragic.
She didn't insert herself. She was leaving when one asked her to leave, and the other tried to force her door open.

They shot her in cold blood and you're rationalizing it. It's disgusting
 

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Trust me. That’s exactly how I feel literally every post that guy makes. It’s like knowing someone believes the earth is flat, you can’t ignore it. So every post he makes has that asterisk beside of, this guy is all in on reparations, and had tripled down. He’s still not budging on it. I have no patience for that garbage.
Hey just so you know, he was telling you to stfu. You're the idiot who keeps talking about it and won't shut up about it.

I've mentioned it 3 times in a year
 

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Hey just so you know, he was telling you to stfu. You're the idiot who keeps talking about it and won't shut up about it.

I've mentioned it 3 times in a year
********. You have an issue telling the truth. And regardless it’s a stupid *** position. Three times is three too many, but you’ve argued with me about it more than that. Just more lies.
 

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********. You have an issue telling the truth. And regardless it’s a stupid *** position. Three times is three too many.
Buddy you've told to stfu multiple times. You're littering the board with your inane nonsense. Just drop it
 

MTTiger19

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She didn't insert herself. She was leaving when one asked her to leave, and the other tried to force her door open.

They shot her in cold blood and you're rationalizing it. It's disgusting
How’d she get there? Did she magically teleport to a random location that ICE happened to be at? She got in her car and deliberately drove there to insert herself in that investigation. That’s a fact.
 

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Where were all of you when innocent people were being murdered on the streets by violent, repeat, convicted criminals? It was crickets.
This person was sitting at her house, in the comfort and safety of her home, decided to go insert herself into a legit, legal law enforcement investigation, refused to comply with legal orders and got shot - leftists are losing their minds.
 
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Where were all of you when innocent people were being murdered on the streets by violent, repeat, convicted criminals? It was crickets.
This person was sitting at her house, in the comfort and safety of her home, decided to go insert herself into a legit, legal law enforcement investigation, refused to comply with legal orders and got shot - leftists are losing their minds.
You: progpagandized by random bots on twitter in the MAGA industrial complex to highlight a few random innocent people murdered by repeat criminals. 99.9% of Americans think innocent people should not be murdered by repeat criminals, but unfortunately happens everyday.

Any sane person: Saw, with their own eyes and not through propaganda, very clearly a federal agent murder a woman in cold blood who was trying to execute a 3 point turn and drive away.

This isn't hard. This isn't a game. This isn't whataboutism. This is just true- militarized federal agents shot a woman 3 times for no reason and murdered her in broad daylight
 

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Where were all of you when innocent people were being murdered on the streets by violent, repeat, convicted criminals? It was crickets.
This person was sitting at her house, in the comfort and safety of her home, decided to go insert herself into a legit, legal law enforcement investigation, refused to comply with legal orders and got shot - leftists are losing their minds.

Remind me which governmental agent killed the innocent people you are mentioning?

Oh that's right, these aren't even close to the same, but the MAGA Whataboutism playbook is in full effect.
 
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You: progpagandized by random bots on twitter in the MAGA industrial complex to highlight a few random innocent people murdered by repeat criminals. 99.9% of Americans think innocent people should not be murdered by repeat criminals, but unfortunately happens everyday.

Any sane person: Saw, with their own eyes and not through propaganda, very clearly a federal agent murder a woman in cold blood who was trying to execute a 3 point turn and drive away.

This isn't hard. This isn't a game. This isn't whataboutism. This is just true- militarized federal agents shot a woman 3 times for no reason and murdered her in broad daylight
You’re a sad little boy lol. Just stay home and don’t go sticking your nose where it doesn’t belong. If I went to break up a drug bust law enforcement was conducting I’d be treated similarly. Any sane person knows that. And you’re right. It’s not a game so quit playing around. LE has a job, leave them alone.
 
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Did she go there with the intention of disrupting a law enforcement investigation? I’m seeing reports that her and her wife got there at least an hour before this happened and were preparing to “film the interactions” of them harassing ICE and they’ve reported that the women were there specifically to disrupt deportation orders being delivered. So this isn’t someone backing out of there driveway, minding their business. This person went there looking for a confrontation and a fight.
Of course you saw reports that she was there for an hour because we know where you get your news, I mean misinformation. They had literally just pulled up 4 minutes before the murder.
 

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I will never understand why someone feels the need to insert themselves into situations that don’t concern them. Get angry when the authorities ask you to leave. Disobey the authorities. Try to flee from them with one of them in front of you. Then get upset that an incident occurred. It’s not her job to go white knighting for illegals, it’s inanity. Now her children will grow up without a mom because she was so wrapped up in protecting illegals she lost her life. Ironically she died for people that don’t belong here, shouldn’t be here and should be sent home. This was the definition of avoidable. It’s tragic.
We can debate the tactic for sure but please stop adding to the misinformation around this murder, because no matter how you slice it, there is nothing, period, in this video that should have led to her murder. There was only one person with anger in this video and that wasn't the nice lady who smiled at the agent, told him she wasn't mad at him and agreed to leave by saying "I'm pulling out." Hence, she also didn't disobey because she had been given conflicting orders and she was following one of those.

I wouldn't even call it white knighting for illegals as much as I'd call it protesting the reckless, heavy-handed, militarization of our cities. You flood a medium sized city with thousands of poorly trained agents with a quota to fill (or else) and their stress levels have got to be off the charts. We've seen video after video of them rounding up citizens who work at places like Target for chrissake, simply because they're brown and publicly manhandling them like criminals in front of their other employees and customers. So you're damn right that's going to piss a lot of people off and since our administration has given these agents the authority to be as cruel as they want, that leaves protesting as the only way to pushback against these types of degrading, humiliating events. That's the only accountability mechanism we have especially if our own VP is going to go before the American public and gaslight us, every time their agents commit a criminal act and frame good citizens as radical left-wing lunatics.

And then when you not only don't punish these agents but you turn them into heroes after they've murdered someone, you better expect sparks.

Ross is now the new Kyle Rittenhouse for fvcks sake.



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I said TOTAL, meaning the majority of that 14 million were already here before Biden. Just be aware that if you only consume news from the right-wing echo chamber, you really never know what the truth is, so it's wise to check your facts before you spread viral propaganda.
So there were thousands coming across the border everyday under Mr Autopen, yet the “majority” of your TOTAL 14 million were already here! Yea right, that adds up!
I’m sorry but there’s NO way that’s true. Not sure what source you get your unbiased news from but if you believe that BS your head is so far up where the sun doesn’t shine you’re lost.
 
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We can debate the tactic for sure but please stop adding to the misinformation around this murder, because no matter how you slice it, there is nothing, period, in this video that should have led to her murder. There was only one person with anger in this video and that wasn't the nice lady who smiled at the agent, told him she wasn't mad at him and agreed to leave by saying "I'm pulling out." Hence, she also didn't disobey because she had been given conflicting orders and she was following one of those.

I wouldn't even call it white knighting for illegals as much as I'd call it protesting the reckless, heavy-handed, militarization of our cities. You flood a medium sized city with thousands of poorly trained agents with a quota to fill (or else) and their stress levels have got to be off the charts. We've seen video after video of them rounding up citizens who work at places like Target for chrissake, simply because they're brown and publicly manhandling them like criminals in front of their other employees and customers. So you're damn right that's going to piss a lot of people off and since our administration has given these agents the authority to be as cruel as they want, that leaves protesting as the only way to pushback against these types of degrading, humiliating events. That's the only accountability mechanism we have especially if our own VP is going to go before the American public and gaslight us, every time their agents commit a criminal act and frame good citizens as radical left-wing lunatics.

And then when you not only don't punish these agents but you turn them into heroes after they've murdered someone, you better expect sparks.

Ross is now the new Kyle Rittenhouse for fvcks sake.



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I live and work in CLT. They were here. No problems. MN seems to get themselves into a lot of messes with SJWs. Floyd, Somalis, now this.

At what point do you consider the root of the issue, it seems you just abdicate responsibility across the board until something from the other side offends you. Why is ICE having to conduct immigration raids all over the country? Why did this lady decide she needed to intervene in a LE investigation? Those answers are the literal genesis of each issue you’re upset about. And you’re only upset with the people trying to clean up the mess, not the people that got us there. It’s bizarre.
 
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So there were thousands coming across the border everyday under Mr Autopen, yet the “majority” of your TOTAL 14 million were already here! Yea right, that adds up!
I’m sorry but there’s NO way that’s true. Not sure what source you get your unbiased news from but if you believe that BS your head is so far up where the sun doesn’t shine you’re lost.
Holy **** dvmb@ss. If there are 14 million here TOTAL and an estimated 4 million came through under Biden, that means there were 10 million here already. Is 10 million MORE than 4 million? If it is, that means the majority were already here. This isn't hard.

But if you have a source that disproves this, feel free to share it but I know you don't because as we see daily on this board from all the magats, none of them consume reputable sources and they get all their news from the dark side of Xchan or an outlet like NewsMax. And that's why none of you ever know what the truth is.
 

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I live and work in CLT. They were here. No problems. MN seems to get themselves into a lot of messes with SJWs. Floyd, Somalis, now this.
Ah yes, Charlotte the lamest city in the southeast.

Trump sent ice to other parts of NC and the Appalachia folk literally ran them into the woods until they just left the state.

Appalachia don't play
 
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Ah yes, Charlotte the lamest city in the southeast.

Trump sent ice to other parts of NC and the Appalachia folk literally ran them into the woods until they just left the state.

Appalachia don't play
I take my Charlotte slander back. It was actually in Charlotte where they ran them into the woods 😂😂😂.

That's why there were no problems in Charlotte. Ice got scared and ran
 
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I live and work in CLT. They were here. No problems. MN seems to get themselves into a lot of messes with SJWs. Floyd, Somalis, now this.

At what point do you consider the root of the issue, it seems you just abdicate responsibility across the board until something from the other side offends you. Why is ICE having to conduct immigration raids all over the country? Why did this lady decide she needed to intervene in a LE investigation? Those answers are the literal genesis of each issue you’re upset about. And you’re only upset with the people trying to clean up the mess, not the people that got us there. It’s bizarre.
The majority of my family lives in Charlotte so I know this to be false as they absolutely did terrorize people, including at places like Manolo's Bakery. That man is beloved, has a heart of gold and has spent years serving his community. I could give many examples but one I'll share is in 2020 during covid, he baked and delivered cakes to every resident at the Aldersgate senior living community for their birthdays. He's a citizen and would give you the shirt off his back and yet ICE repeatedly targeted his customers so many times that he decided to close for a week. And when the protestors came out, he bought a giant bag of stuffed animals and passed them out to the children in the crowd. And yet they almost destroyed his business.



Manolo’s Bakery at center of Charlotte Border Patrol protests lands documentary​


 
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I live and work in CLT. They were here. No problems. MN seems to get themselves into a lot of messes with SJWs. Floyd, Somalis, now this.

At what point do you consider the root of the issue, it seems you just abdicate responsibility across the board until something from the other side offends you. Why is ICE having to conduct immigration raids all over the country? Why did this lady decide she needed to intervene in a LE investigation? Those answers are the literal genesis of each issue you’re upset about. And you’re only upset with the people trying to clean up the mess, not the people that got us there. It’s bizarre.
Looks like I missed your edit so I'll respond.

Two things can be true, I can believe that Biden did a **** job at the border and also believe that this administration's approach to immigration enforcement is cruel, humiliating and dangerous. It doesn't even feel like this is the same country anymore.

If people are treated respectfully and given due process, I'm fine with it but that's not what we've seen at all. From the jump when they started sending non-criminals to a forced labor prison camp in El Salvador to the daily videos of them violently assaulting citizens, I'm disgusted by what feels like we're living in 1930s Germany at times.

We have an administration that appears to be using ICE as a means to intentionally punish blue cities for political sport and given them free reign to be as violent, disrespectful and cruel as they want without fear of retribution. Many of these agents barely qualify, get minimal training and feel like they're invincible. And since we know the leaders of this country won't hold them accountable no matter what they do, it creates a climate of lawlessness and fear. ****, many of these people are following all the rules and they're still getting picked up at their green card appointments by masked men violently taking them down.

It's disgusting and Americans are only going to take so much of this before this thing explodes into something much much bigger, so unless you want this country to be destroyed, we need some people on your side to stand up too. I understand you have a lot of hate in your heart and you love this sh*t but if this gets any worse, this will not end well at all, for anybody, including you.

I know why the agents are here but this **** has gotten out of control. We should be better than this.






"They shot a woman yesterday... and you have hand on your gun! Get off my yard!"

The woman filming was at home with her partner and 18 month old baby—with 3 more children at school. Police told her she would be charged with "harboring a fugitive"—even though the ICE agents had no warrant. The incident occurred in St. Paul, Minnesota.
 
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Probably in your white straight jacket.
Mental health issues for sure.

Carry on.
Excuse me, would you like to explain? Is it because I don't think a woman who wanted to kill Congressmen is the same thing as a woman who was killed because she moved her car?
 

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Easy sweet tits. Good was driving away. Babbit was forced entry. You’re right, not the same.
Breaking the law as she was ordered by FEDERAL AGENTS to get out of her car.

She must have had mental health issues if she couldn't understand that.
 
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No, she was shot because she didn't follow Federal Agents requests to get out of her car.
They also told her to move it, which she TRIED to obey before she was inhumanely slaughtered like a pig.

Cotdamn you're shameless

 

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Breaking the law as she was ordered by FEDERAL AGENTS to get out of her car.

She must have had mental health issues if she couldn't understand that.
Soooo, I guess we are emphasizing federal agents over, let’s say, local police? Not sure what you are trying to accomplish here.
 

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Breaking the law as she was ordered by FEDERAL AGENTS to get out of her car.

She must have had mental health issues if she couldn't understand that.
Donald Trump was ordered by federal agents to a) not steal and b) return hundreds of boxes of classified documents and instead stored them in unsecured locations including his New Jersey golf club and a bathroom at MAL.

He must have had mental health issues if he couldn't understand that.