Settlement reached in lawsuit against Clemson over Charlie Kirk social media firing
FOX Carolina has reached out to the university and the ACLU for response.
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Settlement reached- Prof fired over Charlie Kirk comments
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Weird settlement. Clemson will provide a positive letter of recommendation, but it’s public knowledge he was fired.
I guess it comes down to if a future employer cares about his comments or any negative pub coming from them.
I guess it comes down to if a future employer cares about his comments or any negative pub coming from them.
Most colleges would put him on a pedestal unless the public found out. He is a frickin' hero to them.
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Right but it shows wrongful termination
First, I have no issue with this.
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The University will attest and recommend him based on his teaching . I think you would be surprised by the number of universities that don't care one way or the other about Charlie Kirk but do stand stand strong on the principle of Freedom of Speech. Many may in fact view the former professor's stand as a positive and chalk the issue up to a bad employee-employer fit. Long-term, the professor probably won as I don't believe his positions would have endeared him at Clemson or afforded him promotions over a long career. Clemson's position may also be a smudge for some future potential professors.
Cost of litigating far more than paying him through May.
Good riddance.
Good riddance.
I thought I read he was reinstated and had to be paid in full and was also free to seek research grants and to carry out at other unis?
You didnt read the 2026 forum rules and guidelines that Ard posted I guess. Not supposed to be anything political on WEZ.Settlement reached in lawsuit against Clemson over Charlie Kirk social media firing
FOX Carolina has reached out to the university and the ACLU for response.
I wonder if the ACLU would defend a professor if he called some kids in class the "N" word and got fired?
You know, free speech and all.
You know, free speech and all.
Right.
They rescinded his termination - ie they reinstated him - and he will be paid out the full terms of his original agreement.
I hope the "smudge" as you call it, results in less of these while professors at Clemson
Yes, the ACLU defends hate speech.
Yeah I’m fairly sure they’ve defended the NRA before or joined with them in lawsuits
I think you want professors to be able to speak—- remember the days when conservatives were effectively silenced. Free speech doesn’t mean intelligent speech, comfortable speech or tasteful speech. As my 26 year AF veteran father repeatedly told me— “I may disagree and detest everything you have to say, but I have spent my life defending your right to say it”. I only served 6, but concur in anyone’s right to say whatever they believe is a hill to die on. Based on everything I have read, I would suggest that Mr. Kirk agreed.
Free speech is one thing and I agree. Indoctrination is another. Especially by authority figures which a professor most certainly is
I still say it just shows poor judgement and makes me not want my kid in his class regardless of my personal opinion on the subject matter.
I see the “free-speech” crowd isn’t really supportive of free-speech unless it’s baseless ******** from the dumbest president and cabinet in the history of this nation.
Firing him was a poor choice made in haste. The guy’s post was goofy social media melodrama that should’ve just been laughed at, or at most had heads shaken at. People should’ve learned from 2020 that it’s not a good idea to act in these hothouse environments.
That used to be their thing, but not as much anymore. FIRE is really the best defender of free speech these days.
As long as the grades arent assigned based on their politics but on the material, a professor‘s opinions aren’t a factor. Grading based on their personal views is not opinion and should not be tolerated on either side.
I would hope that college age students are capable of correctly deciding the merits or demerits of an opinion.
Absolute ********. That loser shouldn’t receive another penny, lose the ability to teach, and piss off into obscurity.
They knew the second they fired him he was going to win the lawsuit and he should. Literally no one should shocked.
The signed mediation agreement was published on another website. As both a lawyer and mediator, I have executed a ton of mediations in my career. The University got their arse cut on this. It should be no surprise. For anyone who knows anything about free speech, this was obvious outcome from day one.
Trump mocking dead McCain good. Mocking dead Kirk bad.
They defended a doped up Rush Limbaugh. You know, right to privacy and all.
Several professors and grad students told me that he was a very well respected and well liked by faculty and students alike.
Just last year they defended a neo-Nazi group.
N.H. Attorney General ‘disappointed’ ACLU ‘has chosen to support’ neo-Nazi white supremacist group - The Boston Globe
The ACLU is arguing for free speech, while the Attorney General pursues civil charges against NSC-131 for hanging a white supremacist sign from a public highway overpass.
www.bostonglobe.com
In your world everyone has to think alike then? Speaking his own beliefs is too much for the **** your feelings crowd? Charlie Kirk was a divisive figure and sure as hell was no saint or martyr. I get corporations have a right to fire, but the very Orwellian precedents are becoming fairly extreme under maga leadership. The maga will go down in history as a vile group of people who did way more harm than good.