Portal Losses Thread

JustGary

Sophomore
Oct 7, 2025
124
189
43
Apologies, I misread your post.
Really no issue. I just didn’t want people to think I was dishing players. Unless they do something really ******, like that Washington QB, I’m all in favor of players making good financial or career decisions.
 
  • Like
Reactions: corbi296

CatManTrue

All-American
Oct 4, 2008
16,541
5,696
97
I doubt he gets much more than “free,” TBH. His numbers were decent but he was basically shielded from anything over 40 yards.
Don’t forget the scholarship money he’ll save!
Olsen is wildly replaceable.
Most seasons, we seem to struggle with placekicking but have ample pass rushers (or enough of a pass rush for our D to do well). And we need to spend money on impact WRs and OL.

I take nothing for granted as an NU fan.
 

Gocatsgo2003

All-Conference
Mar 30, 2006
46,863
3,208
78
Don’t forget the scholarship money he’ll save!

Most seasons, we seem to struggle with placekicking but have ample pass rushers (or enough of a pass rush for our D to do well). And we need to spend money on impact WRs and OL.

I take nothing for granted as an NU fan.

He’s a kicker that couldn’t be trusted past 40 yards in 2025. That’s just not good enough.
 

AdamOnFirst

All-Conference
Nov 29, 2021
10,119
1,697
113
Aside from Budzien and a healthy Demos, in most years we do not have a reliable kicking game. Didn’t we miss some easy kicks when Olsen was out against Tulane?
Olsen is the second most accurate NU kicker since 2000, behind only Budzien, so I generally agree with you more than GCG that this is a palpable loss... but looking at the actual stats, Olsen was a fantastic 78.4% for his career (and an amazing 90% this year), but 7 other guys who kicked at least a year were above 70%, so it's actually not that unprecedented that we have a pretty reliable kicker, and the new guy Kleather was 19/22 last year with multiple makes over 50 yards, so it's proving not that difficult to bring in a reliable guy annually in the portal era. Kleather is just as good or better than Olsen, tbh.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Eurocat

AdamOnFirst

All-Conference
Nov 29, 2021
10,119
1,697
113
Olsen is the second most accurate NU kicker since 2000, behind only Budzien, so I generally agree with you more than GCG that this is a palpable loss... but looking at the actual stats, Olsen was a fantastic 78.4% for his career (and an amazing 90% this year), but 7 other guys who kicked at least a year were above 70%, so it's actually not that unprecedented that we have a pretty reliable kicker, and the new guy Kleather was 19/22 last year with multiple makes over 50 yards, so it's proving not that difficult to bring in a reliable guy annually in the portal era. Kleather is just as good or better than Olsen, tbh.
Here are the stats btw

 

CatManTrue

All-American
Oct 4, 2008
16,541
5,696
97
Here are the stats btw

Wow - Kuhbander was less accurate than I remembered.

That list is a trip down memory lane. Slade Larscheid has been in the news as Ohio University’s AD - but he actually did his job well and axed their outgoing head coach as decently as he could.

Joel Howells was the walk on kicker who took Slade’s soot and earned a scholarship.

Wasielewski was the opposite of Olsen: he had one of the strongest legs on this list, but was very inaccurate (the 2002 OSU loss could have been even closer…).

Villareall (sp?) is perhaps the most underrated kicker on that list.
 

AdamOnFirst

All-Conference
Nov 29, 2021
10,119
1,697
113
Wow - Kuhbander was less accurate than I remembered.

That list is a trip down memory lane. Slade Larscheid has been in the news as Ohio University’s AD - but he actually did his job well and axed their outgoing head coach as decently as he could.

Joel Howells was the walk on kicker who took Slade’s soot and earned a scholarship.

Wasielewski was the opposite of Olsen: he had one of the strongest legs on this list, but was very inaccurate (the 2002 OSU loss could have been even closer…).

Villareall (sp?) is perhaps the most underrated kicker on that list.
Amado-matic!
 

Purple Pete

Freshman
Sep 22, 2025
73
51
18
I won't be missing the made field goal celebrations. They were unique, but udderly ridiculous.
 

AdamOnFirst

All-Conference
Nov 29, 2021
10,119
1,697
113
I know there were many times during the season where I said to myself, "he butter make this!"
The knew guy will be able to make our field goals, so we butter just get used to all this churn as the new whey of things.
 
  • Wow
Reactions: Purple Pete

AdamOnFirst

All-Conference
Nov 29, 2021
10,119
1,697
113
Hunter Welcing apparently to the portal now, and apparently also with eligibility left. Must have gotten or be hoping for a medical waiver for 2022 that would allow him to be in college for a SEVENTH year. Would have liked to keep him, he's good.
 

AdamOnFirst

All-Conference
Nov 29, 2021
10,119
1,697
113
Saka actually ended up committing to A&M, so the assumption he was following Smith was totally flawed. He would have indeed gotten a significant check, it will be interesting to see if his actual production improves there.
 

AdamOnFirst

All-Conference
Nov 29, 2021
10,119
1,697
113
ALso as per Lou Chandler and Herzog to the portal now. Chandler wasn't on the two-deep, Herzog was a fourth year backup. I have calmed down from my initial concern over Herzog toward recognizing a guy who hadn't broken the starting lineup to this point as a fourth year was probably not gonna. As long as they bring in sufficient quality numbers behind him it's okay to see guys like this move on. Imperative, actually, to have space for additions.
 

JustGary

Sophomore
Oct 7, 2025
124
189
43
ALso as per Lou Chandler and Herzog to the portal now. Chandler wasn't on the two-deep, Herzog was a fourth year backup. I have calmed down from my initial concern over Herzog toward recognizing a guy who hadn't broken the starting lineup to this point as a fourth year was probably not gonna. As long as they bring in sufficient quality numbers behind him it's okay to see guys like this move on. Imperative, actually, to have space for additions.
I was wondering how we were signing so many and even planning more without losing too many to the portal, it there is still another week for players to declare.
 

CatManTrue

All-American
Oct 4, 2008
16,541
5,696
97
Saka actually ended up committing to A&M, so the assumption he was following Smith was totally flawed. He would have indeed gotten a significant check, it will be interesting to see if his actual production improves there.
I’ll be cheering for him at A&M. Hope he puts it all together - they’re likely paying him top dollar.
 

catcrazy

Sophomore
Aug 5, 2001
3,816
162
62
Talked to my good friend who is A &M alum and told him Saka is uber talented but underperformed at NU but maybe Elko and crew can unleash his talent. Interestingly rated a 4 star talent on 3 but production doesn't really show this
 

Gocatsgo2003

All-Conference
Mar 30, 2006
46,863
3,208
78
Hunter Welcing apparently to the portal now, and apparently also with eligibility left. Must have gotten or be hoping for a medical waiver for 2022 that would allow him to be in college for a SEVENTH year. Would have liked to keep him, he's good.

He was basically disinvited once we got the Minnesota-Duluth kid, who’s got 3 years of eligibility and is better.
 
  • Wow
Reactions: Purple Pete

Gocatsgo2003

All-Conference
Mar 30, 2006
46,863
3,208
78
ALso as per Lou Chandler and Herzog to the portal now. Chandler wasn't on the two-deep, Herzog was a fourth year backup. I have calmed down from my initial concern over Herzog toward recognizing a guy who hadn't broken the starting lineup to this point as a fourth year was probably not gonna. As long as they bring in sufficient quality numbers behind him it's okay to see guys like this move on. Imperative, actually, to have space for additions.

Similar… Drevno wants his guys.
 

Fanaticat98

Senior
May 29, 2001
9,068
684
113
He was basically disinvited once we got the Minnesota-Duluth kid, who’s got 3 years of eligibility and is better.
I didn’t realize Welcing was a 6th year. Clearly no obligation from NU to continue his scholarship. Like Olsen he must be done with a grad degree so he really should try to go somewhere else if he can get eligibility for either a bigger playing role and/or another grad degree.
 

jensberg

Sophomore
Jul 28, 2006
2,981
150
63
I was wondering how we were signing so many and even planning more without losing too many to the portal, it there is still another week for players to declare.
So far 10 in and 10 out so it's a total net zero
 

AdamOnFirst

All-Conference
Nov 29, 2021
10,119
1,697
113
That makes me think twice…I liked him this year but I didn’t anticipate he’s OSU level talent, which would be like the best TE we’ve had in many many years?
First off, he was the best TE we've had in quite a few years (which is both a legitimate compliment and faint praise at the same time). I'd frankly expect him to be a TE2 type at OSU, to be honest, but still, they didn't bring him in because he isn't good.
 

Fanaticat98

Senior
May 29, 2001
9,068
684
113
First off, he was the best TE we've had in quite a few years (which is both a legitimate compliment and faint praise at the same time). I'd frankly expect him to be a TE2 type at OSU, to be honest, but still, they didn't bring him in because he isn't good.
Well I guess it’s not fair since we didn’t really have TEs for some years due to the super back position. The guy we had in 2000 transfer from Miami was definitely more impactful I think. I mean, I said he’s good I just didn’t think jump to OSU good.
 

AdamOnFirst

All-Conference
Nov 29, 2021
10,119
1,697
113
Well I guess it’s not fair since we didn’t really have TEs for some years due to the super back position. The guy we had in 2000 transfer from Miami was definitely more impactful I think. I mean, I said he’s good I just didn’t think jump to OSU good.
Obviously I'm including the superback era as tight ends and we had plenty of guys in the superback era who were as good or better than Welcing... but that was quite a time ago. Cam Green graduated in 2018. To be clear, I am not saying Welcing is better than everybody from the Green/Dickerson/Dunsmore/Vitale era guys. I AM saying he's the best since then, and VERY clearly a LOT better than everybody since then other than John Raine.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rebel II

Purple Pile Driver

All-Conference
May 14, 2014
27,663
2,990
113
Well I guess it’s not fair since we didn’t really have TEs for some years due to the super back position. The guy we had in 2000 transfer from Miami was definitely more impactful I think. I mean, I said he’s good I just didn’t think jump to OSU good.
Have you seen the recent guys OSU is bringing in? Looks like they are targeting veteran back ups. Many if one year if eligibility. It looks like a thought out strategy of having “ready to play” talent if the need arises.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Purple Pete

JustGary

Sophomore
Oct 7, 2025
124
189
43
Have you seen the recent guys OSU is bringing in? Looks like they are targeting veteran back ups. Many if one year if eligibility. It looks like a thought out strategy of having “ready to play” talent if the need arises.
OSU has lost 4 & 5 stars to the portal who want starting role, bigger pay checks, or lots of playing time. They spend money to retain starters but not willing to pay high for backups. So, they are looking for experienced portal players who will accept the role as backup while their freshmen class is developing.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Purple Pete