The flea bitten commie protesters need to go home and stay away from ICE. Problem solved.
Minnesota - ICE Agent Shoots Woman Protester In Car - Happened Again - Both Justified
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I think what happened is horrible. I detest most authority but I’m not an idiot, and I comply when LE has a gun in my face. She was killed in a horrible manner and it could’ve been avoided. Idk if that’s murder or not, but it’s tragic and shouldn’t have happened. Not one person is better off because of what happened but the LE isn’t the only one to blame and Ms Good isn’t blameless either.
It’s not about leaving or staying. She disobeyed a direct order from an armed LEO period, end of discussion. It’s an incredibly highly charged, complex scenario. Cooler heads would’ve prevailed but those people are wound up so much they can’t stay calm. ICE looking at people’s IDs in Minnesota isn’t an attack on democracy, it’s part of their job. ICE being there isn’t hurting one single American citizen or destroying anyone’s life. They’re doing a job. You and Tim Walz and Jake Frey may not like it but that’s the rules of our society. Next time you get pulled over, don’t stop, speed up and drive off - let us all know what happens.
So this woman was parked in front of another car. She was waving cars through- She tried to wave the truck with the ICE officers through.
Whether she was "protecting" the parked car from ICE, or helping them cuz they were stuck, or whatever, she wasn't causing a scene.
Out of nowhere, 2 masked men with guns rush out of their truck and immediately try to forcefully open their door. You think she wasn't terrified? Of course she tried to drive away. It's not like she was doing anything illegal that warranted them rushing her car and trying to force it open.
So she drove away and they shot her three times. It looks like she saw the dude who shot her last second and turned, as he came from the other direction.
This woman died for absolutely no reason and in cold blood.
I know yall support ICE and deportations and always complying with law enforcement. But seriously? This isn't even a debatable one
Just do what they say, cameras everywhere, if they were wrong she could’ve sued them into oblivion. Completely avoidable. Liberals redlining is the issue, them thinking they need to go and get right in the middle of ICE investigations or insert themselves in every scenario. Mind your fuvking business, worry about you, if a cop tells you to stop then stop. It’s not any civilians right or duty to go tell ICE what they can and can’t do. The entire situation is crazy. The leaders from that party have blood on their hands. The same people that wanted to lock up unvaccinated people now want to tell LE what they can and can’t do.
Yeah, it is. Actually the leaving or staying part will probably be a major factor in at least the civil suit that is coming (bc this nut less administration won’t do an investigation). I am positive there are a metric **** ton of folks on the ground in Minny who beg to differ on whether or not their lives have been affected by the presence of ICE. And lawful US citizens at that.
Sure we can find numerous instances of people driving off from the cops and living to tell the tale.
Mind your business. This is a leftist thing. There’s no need to insert yourself into every scenario and “save” or “rescue” the “oppressed”. Just stay out of it and comply with demands.
Just comply. Get out of the car. That’s all that needed to happen.
I live in CLT. ICE was here a few weeks ago. It didn’t affect me in anyway whatsoever. How is ICE checking immigration status effecting you or others? Does it make it where you can’t go to work or provide for your family? Have you been fired? Are you not able to buy and sell things? What’s the issue? If I got pulled over by ICE in a Walmart parking lot in CLT, I bet if I give them my ID that’s the end of the visit.
K. Why did the officer engage with the civilian in the first place? Why would you close the distance with someone with a free weapon? Cops don’t usually walk around with their side arms in their hands. It invites the opportunity for the weapon to be compromised. Sold de-escalation tactic on the officer’s part. Has to be a lack of training.
And at the same time, the civilian needs to back the Fuq up. And absolutely do not touch the weapon. I might understand a shooting in this scenario more than what actually occurred. There are exponential better ways to handle all of this.
These are not normal interactions. They’re scaled up and frenzied. Mainly because the demonization of ICE and their mission. Everywhere they go domestically is like going into a war zone. Surely you understand that rhetoric from leftist leaders is responsible for this behavior. It’s precisely why you are seeing these citizens so brazenly challenging LEO. It’s complete insanity. Especially considering how militant leftists are with demanding compliance (covid, vaccines, trans, no voter id) to everything they support. They’re becoming more and more toddler like by the day.
You can find numerous where they don't live to tell the tale also. That's why it's best to obey commands from law enforcement. You can work it out in the court system later.
I mean, arriving en masse, disregarding the 4th Amendment while dressed like Block Ops 7 doesn’t help anything.
So was the right responsible for riling up the rioters on Jan6 and emboldening them to disregard LEO?
I feel like some folks don't understand the 4th amendment ITT. They expect free citizens to surrender their rights because the government shows up with a gun. I will never understand people who think that way. 'Just comply' no, **** you this is America you dumbass.
The irony is the same people that probably sport the Gadsden flag are the ones saying to just bend over and comply with questionably constitutional search and seizures.
It is certainly true that "just comply" isn't always one's legal obligation, but...
1. It is nearly always a prudent thing to do. (Note, I'd have added "especially if a gun has been drawn," but from what I've seen the draw and shooting occurred so quickly that I doubt anybody would have had time to process and act on that, even given the fastest neural pathways.)
2. The reality is that none of us, and probably 99.99999% of the twitter mob cited in this and other threads and news articles, know just why she was there, or what was being said at the time. The possibilities range from "truly accidental wrong place wrong time and got flustered trying to leave with everything going on around her" to "professional ice stalker activist." I suspect the reality is somewhere in the middle, but there is at least a plausible possibility that the lead up to this may have entailed some form of obstruction/failure to follow lawful order, which would easily provide grounds for some sort of Terry stop under 4A principles, for which a person does have an obligation to comply. Again though, none of us is in a position to assess that.
3. As I've noted otherwise, the justification (even if it exists) for a Terry stop alone does not extend to drawing one's weapon to make it happen. That would require good faith and reasonable concern for safety, and as I've noted, that's a more ambiguous question from what I've seen, but one for which the LEO tends to get a bit of deference.
14 million, oh that’s much better, my badYou disgraceful propaganda-fueled liar. 20 million my ***. There are 14 million illegals here in TOTAL. This is why nothing you deceitful magats say can ever be trusted.
Record 14 Million Unauthorized Immigrants Lived in the US in 2023
The number of unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. reached an all-time high after two consecutive years of record growth.www.pewresearch.org
I said TOTAL, meaning the majority of that 14 million were already here before Biden. Just be aware that if you only consume news from the right-wing echo chamber, you really never know what the truth is, so it's wise to check your facts before you spread viral propaganda.
Just like you shouldn't tug on superman's cape, you shouldn't grab for a LEO's weapon. If you do you shouldn't be suprised if you wind up with a hole in your body. In this case, if not a hole, at least a cracked sternum from the barrel of the PDW that hero was trying to grab.
I don't know how you can even breathe with your head being so far up Trump's butt. You just believe anything the Mango Mussolini says huh? The job these guys are doing is a coverup for racist MAGAt's to take our their racist transgressions without any accountability. It really is sick what this country is coming to. How did we get to this
The car didn't need to be stopped. Masked men jumped out of their SUV with guns out and tried to forcibly remove a citizen from her car for no reason. Then they shot her in cold blood.
I agree with your last sentence.
so now sending in agents to help minimize crime in lib sh!tholes is now considered “racist”.
Everything is so a$$ backwards with you freakazoids
Racial profiling is literal racism, especially when trying to apprehend, detain, or arrest based solely on skin color
Honestly, what are you taking about? What does sending in agents to minimize crime have anything to do with skin color.
You’re coming off pretty racist tbh
i know we have some real brain wizards on this site, but i thought i'd offer the opinions of some actual experts who have experience in law enforcement. i've set the clip to begin at roughly the 9-minute mark. These are the three gentlemen you see discussing the matter:
All of three of them denounce the actions of the murderer, Noem, and Trump at various times. I'm sure the bootlickers will disagree with their assertions, but I haven't seen a single expert in the field with a single brain cell do anything but rightfully criticize this murder and its ludicrous framing by the chuds.
- Former FBI supervisory agent
- Former US Capitol Police chief
- Former ICE director
All of three of them denounce the actions of the murderer, Noem, and Trump at various times. I'm sure the bootlickers will disagree with their assertions, but I haven't seen a single expert in the field with a single brain cell do anything but rightfully criticize this murder and its ludicrous framing by the chuds.
Don’t you think all white people owe you money for reparations? You racist pos. Funny how if it suits you it’s fine. Loser. Pure trash.
According to nearly every liberal on this board the J6 people deserved exactly what they got. That’s the absolute truth about the leftists in here 100%. Funny you cry now that it happens to your side. What a joke. This board is pathetic.
Fine, then do what you want bro. I’m complying if a dude with a badge and gun tell me to do something. I’m not willing to die and leave my wife and kids to prove a point about the 4th amendment. Just stfu already. People got fired and ran out of their jobs for not getting a vaccine. What amendment does that cover.
Because he is. He’s a racist. He wants money from whites only because 4% of them owned slaves 180 years ago. It’s whiteys fault and they owe. Racist as fuxk.