Anyone Else Concerned That Staff Isn't Even Trying to Lure High End P4 Transfers Out of the Portal?

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As of Jan 7, 2026, there are 4,500 D1 players currently in the transfer portal. The Hawks have some MAJOR holes to fill on the OL, the entire defensive side of the ball, and need upgrades at all of the skill positions (QB, WR, and RB).

The good news is Iowa is lucky enough to be a member of the wealthiest conference with the most tv money. For that reason alone, Iowa has a huge competitive advantage over teams in other conferences because we have plenty of money to throw around. Despite what fans might think, Iowa is not broke. The NIL program is above average compared to our upper mid-tier peers. Hell, at the time, Iowa's deal with McNamera was the richest portal deal in the country. This year, outside a few blue blood QBs, Gronk was one of the highest paid QBs nationally. So why is the staff setting their sights so much lower in the portal than any of our peers?

First off, 80% of in-state Big 12 power Iowa State's roster hit the portal. Many of the guys are from Iowa. Some even grew up Hawk fans. Not all can go to Penn State. Yet not one has visited Iowa yet? How is it possible that we'd prefer to look across the country at 2 star kids from Elon, Villenova, and Holy Cross than at Power 4 kids in our own back yard? So far, the only non FCS kid so far was a backup at group of 5 James Madison this year? That's not exactly acting like a Big 10 power with the resources of Iowa.

And before everyone jumps in with "I trust the coaches every step of the way, they are the best identifiers of small school talent," let's look at their rough track record going the small school route to find cheap diamonds in the rough. It's been an utter disaster:

FCS Portal Busts This Year

-CB Shahid Barrows came in this year from South Dakota (not State) to start at CB. The guy wasn't ready for prime time, failed to make the field, and the Hawks struggled at the position because of this miss.

-OL Bryce George came in this year from Ferris State as a senior to start at tackle. Did he ever see the field?

-WR Sam Phillips came in this year from FCS Chattanooga via Budmyer to start at WR and give Iowa the deep threat they've needed for so long. The guy was flat out AWFUL.

-OL Daijon Parker came in from Saginaw Valley State last year with 1 year of eligibility to start at tackle. Never saw the field.

-WR Seth Anderson, the undersized son of an NFL WR, came in from his DII school with high expectations. In the past 2 years, he's had 15 catches for 150 yards and managed to actually downgrade Iowa's struggling WR corp.

Kirk struck out big time mining the diamonds in the rough in the portal. The best portal recruits we've had in recent years were the LB from Power 4 Virginia and the TE from Power 4 Michigan. Would it kill us to go after a few more kids like that? Schools like Minnesota, Mich State, Nebraska, Illinois, Iowa State have no problem pulling D1 prospects and they have lesser budgets than Iowa has. What are we so afraid of here?

Not Even a Scheduled Visit From ONE Power 4 Transfer?

Going down the list, there are thousands of Power 4 transfers in the portal right now. WRs looking for opportunity. Grown men DL and OL. Ohio State cast offs. Texas cast offs. USC cast offs. Most of which are not demanding the kind of dollars the star QBs require.

Facts are facts. Most Power 4 kids are considerably better than most FCS kids. That's just how college football works. And before anyone says "but Gronk went to an FCS school," Gronk was not a diamond in the rough. He was a well known commodity nationwide who won the FCS Heisman trophy and started for 4 years at the FCS level and had offers from several Power 4 schools. That's why he demanded $2M to come to Iowa. He was not some diamond in the rough from Saginaw Valley State...and even then, he was the 15th ranked QB in the Big 10 this year.
 
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As of Jan 7, 2026, there are 4,500 D1 players currently in the transfer portal. Iowa is lucky enough to be in the wealthiest conference with the most tv money and has plenty of money to throw around. So why is the staff setting their sights so much lower in the transfer portal than any of our peers?

80% of in-state Big 12 Iowa State's roster hit the portal. Many of the guys are from Iowa and not all can go to Penn State. Not one has visited Iowa yet, and we'd prefer to look across the country at 2 star kids from Elon, Villenova, and Holy Cross? I think the only non FCS kid so far was a backup at James Madison this year?

And before everyone jumps in with "I'm a sheep and trust the coaches every step of the way, they are the best identifiers of small school talent," let's look at their track record going the small school route to find cheap diamonds in the rough. It's been an utter disaster:

-CB Shahid Barrows came in this year from South Dakota (not State) to start at CB. The guy wasn't ready for prime time, failed to make the field, and the Hawks struggled at the position because of this miss.

-OL Bryce George came in this year from Ferris State as a senior to start at tackle. Did he ever see the field?

-WR Sam Phillips came in this year from FCS Chattanooga via Budmyer to start at WR and give Iowa the deep threat they've needed for so long. The guy was flat out AWFUL.

-OL Daijon Parker came in from Saginaw Valley State last year with 1 year of eligibility to start at tackle. Never saw the field.

-WR Seth Anderson came in from his DII school a couple years back. As everyone has seen, he's been downright awful and actually downgraded the WR corp.

Before we blindly state "Kirk knows what he's doing going after unknown small school kids," let's get our facts straight. He has struck out big time mining the diamonds in the rough in the portal. The best portal recruits we've had in recent years were the LB from Power 4 Virginia and the TE from Power 4 Michigan. Would it kill us to go after a few more kids like that? Schools like Minnesota, Mich State, Nebraska, Illinois, Iowa State have no problem pulling D1 prospects with lesser budgets than Iowa has. What are we so afraid of here?

Going down the list, there are thousands of Power 4 transfers in the portal right now. Ohio State cast offs. Texas cast offs. USC cast offs. The majority of the Power 4 kids are going to be considerably better than the majority of the FCS kids. That's just how football works. And before anyone says "but Gronk went to an FCS school," Gronk was not a diamond in the rough. He was an extremely well known commodity who started for 4 years at the FCS level and had offers from several Power 4 schools. That's why he demanded $2M to come to Iowa. He was not some diamond in the rough from Saginaw Valley State.
No, it's just you. Now go back to worrying about your pedo stalker.
 
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As of Jan 7, 2026, there are 4,500 D1 players currently in the transfer portal. Iowa is lucky enough to be in the wealthiest conference with the most tv money and has plenty of money to throw around. So why is the staff setting their sights so much lower in the transfer portal than any of our peers?

80% of in-state Big 12 Iowa State's roster hit the portal. Many of the guys are from Iowa and not all can go to Penn State. Not one has visited Iowa yet, and we'd prefer to look across the country at 2 star kids from Elon, Villenova, and Holy Cross? I think the only non FCS kid so far was a backup at James Madison this year?

And before everyone jumps in with "I'm a sheep and trust the coaches every step of the way, they are the best identifiers of small school talent," let's look at their track record going the small school route to find cheap diamonds in the rough. It's been an utter disaster:

-CB Shahid Barrows came in this year from South Dakota (not State) to start at CB. The guy wasn't ready for prime time, failed to make the field, and the Hawks struggled at the position because of this miss.

-OL Bryce George came in this year from Ferris State as a senior to start at tackle. Did he ever see the field?

-WR Sam Phillips came in this year from FCS Chattanooga via Budmyer to start at WR and give Iowa the deep threat they've needed for so long. The guy was flat out AWFUL.

-OL Daijon Parker came in from Saginaw Valley State last year with 1 year of eligibility to start at tackle. Never saw the field.

-WR Seth Anderson came in from his DII school a couple years back. As everyone has seen, he's been downright awful and actually downgraded the WR corp.

Before we blindly state "Kirk knows what he's doing going after unknown small school kids," let's get our facts straight. He has struck out big time mining the diamonds in the rough in the portal. The best portal recruits we've had in recent years were the LB from Power 4 Virginia and the TE from Power 4 Michigan. Would it kill us to go after a few more kids like that? Schools like Minnesota, Mich State, Nebraska, Illinois, Iowa State have no problem pulling D1 prospects with lesser budgets than Iowa has. What are we so afraid of here?

Going down the list, there are thousands of Power 4 transfers in the portal right now. Ohio State cast offs. Texas cast offs. USC cast offs. The majority of the Power 4 kids are going to be considerably better than the majority of the FCS kids. That's just how football works. And before anyone says "but Gronk went to an FCS school," Gronk was not a diamond in the rough. He was an extremely well known commodity who started for 4 years at the FCS level and had offers from several Power 4 schools. That's why he demanded $2M to come to Iowa. He was not some diamond in the rough from Saginaw Valley State.
With respect to the portal, I feel like we are taking the route of the Moneyball era Oakland Athletics. I trust the staff is pursuing players that are good culture fits, as they should. We saw what happened with Entringer wanting significantly more than we are willing to pay him. We simply don't have the resources to swing with the bigger programs. Plus, I would argue that we have a solid core with good pieces and the type of player we need from the portal are depth pieces outside of WR. I would rather cast a wide net than overspend on a player that could potentially have a negative cultural effect.
 

MotownHAWK

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One Love Food GIF by Raising Cane's

What another BANGER take from COLDSLAW.... I can't believe someone would be this stupid willingly...
 

SecretHBOTer

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If success in CFB hinges on throwing the most money at a player who is leaving a good situation to chase more money, then I’m good with where we are.

All I’ve ever really wanted from KF is to have teams that maximized our talent. He hasn’t been perfect, but damn we’ve been awfully close to that for a long time. I don’t need Iowa to swim in mucky waters (which is what is now required to be elite in CFB) to enjoy watching them play.
 

RagnarLothbrok

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It’s not an exact science. I am withholding judgment until after the portal closes.

I believe OP is correct about our lack of portal success to this point. Nick Jackson and Gronowski are the best portal additions to date with Jacob Gill coming in second. Other than those three, everyone else has been a huge disappointment or never saw the field. In some cases, that might be a good thing (like OL where we were already set). Other cases, like WR, we really needed a meaningful addition and got next to nothing from guys like Anderson and Phillips.

If by the end of the portal season, Iowa hasn’t added at least 1-2 key pieces on both sides of the ball that can actually compete for a starting position, then it can probably be fairly concluded that Iowa struck out yet again in the portal.
 

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You don't walk into a Lamborghini dealership to look at cars when you have a budget to buy a Ford Escort.

Join SWARM if you want the high priced talent.
I don't think Iowa wants the Lambo, they are content to get the car kit and build it into a car that rivals a Lambo. Agree on SWARM, but Iowa needs Daddy Warbucks to come in and infuse the program with $$$. Even if that were to happen, I still don't think they would pursue high priced talent.

Another aspect I see is Iowa competes with other program's for the talent that enters the portal. It will be interesting to see what happens with Entringer.
 

DuddyB

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You don't walk into a Lamborghini dealership to look at cars when you have a budget to buy a Ford Escort.

Join SWARM if you want the high priced talent.
SWARM money ain’t bring in enough to buy high end guys. At its peak I think it had what 3,000 members at $10 a month? So it was it was bringing in $360,000 from memberships. Probably barely covers the overheads. It’s the big donors that move the needle. We just don’t have a big enough one or enough of them.
 

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It is what it is,, they are defiantly going after lower hanging fruit that can't be argued, but maybe they like lesser players with better fits into their program...but even ISU getting higher ranked players in the portal than Iowa is and they are supposed to be broke...so who knows...we won't know if they made right decisions till next year......
 

chipackhawk

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For many of the players entering the portal from Power Conference teams there is a reason - generally they were not good enough to get the playing time they wanted. So ya, why not go crazy throwing money at players who weren't good enough for their original team? Seems like a great plan to get better. I would much rather take a shot at players from more minor schools who may have developed later. My guess is the latter is likely a little more hungry to prove themselves too. I am good with the current philosophy.
 
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SWARM money ain’t bring in enough to buy high end guys. At its peak I think it had what 3,000 members at $10 a month? So it was it was bringing in $360,000 from memberships. Probably barely covers the overheads. It’s the big donors that move the needle. We just don’t have a big enough one or enough of them.
3000 members is a sad reflection on the fanbase. Waiting around for a Daddy Warbucks to appear and donate millions is a bad plan. There is absolutely no reason why Iowa doesn't have 10,000+ Swarm members.

This is a sad reflection on our fanbase.
 

Palmerhawk

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Vandervelde was a very solid pickup from tiny Hillsdale college.
Tesla was a near miss from small school who has flourished with lions.

Reserving judgement til we play games.
This will be the most mysterious hawk team in some years....box of chocolates.

It could be 5-7 or 8-4....so much turnover ,could be a tough year..and hasten KFs retirement.
 

BigOHawk1

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SWARM money ain’t bring in enough to buy high end guys. At its peak I think it had what 3,000 members at $10 a month? So it was it was bringing in $360,000 from memberships. Probably barely covers the overheads. It’s the big donors that move the needle. We just don’t have a big enough one or enough of them.
Well someone stepped up as MG was making 1.3 mil last year unless rev share was funding that or we saved enough NIL from previous years. Yeah, 3k is pitiful TBH, heck, we should be able to snag a few thousand during a home game at Kinnick either via a one time donation, or recurring AND/OR put a conv. fee or some line item on the tickets or concessions like everything else in life.
 
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As of Jan 7, 2026, there are 4,500 D1 players currently in the transfer portal. Iowa is lucky enough to be in the wealthiest conference with the most tv money and has plenty of money to throw around. Iowa is not broke and the NIL program is above average despite what fans seem to want to believe to keep expectations low. At the time, McNamera was the highest paid portal recruit in the country. Outside the blue blood QBs, Gronk was one of the highest paid QBs around. So why is the staff setting their sights so much lower in the transfer portal than any of our peers?

80% of in-state Big 12 Iowa State's roster hit the portal. Many of the guys are from Iowa and not all can go to Penn State. Not one has visited Iowa yet, and we'd prefer to look across the country at 2 star kids from Elon, Villenova, and Holy Cross? I think the only non FCS kid so far was a backup at James Madison this year?

And before everyone jumps in with "I'm a sheep and trust the coaches every step of the way, they are the best identifiers of small school talent," let's look at their track record going the small school route to find cheap diamonds in the rough. It's been an utter disaster:

FCS Portal Busts This Year

-CB Shahid Barrows came in this year from South Dakota (not State) to start at CB. The guy wasn't ready for prime time, failed to make the field, and the Hawks struggled at the position because of this miss.

-OL Bryce George came in this year from Ferris State as a senior to start at tackle. Did he ever see the field?

-WR Sam Phillips came in this year from FCS Chattanooga via Budmyer to start at WR and give Iowa the deep threat they've needed for so long. The guy was flat out AWFUL.

-OL Daijon Parker came in from Saginaw Valley State last year with 1 year of eligibility to start at tackle. Never saw the field.

-WR Seth Anderson, the undersized son of an NFL WR, came in from his DII school with high expectations. In the past 2 years, he's had 15 catches for 150 yards and managed to actually downgrade Iowa's struggling WR corp.

Before we blindly state "Kirk knows what he's doing going after unknown small school kids," let's get our facts straight. He has struck out big time mining the diamonds in the rough in the portal. The best portal recruits we've had in recent years were the LB from Power 4 Virginia and the TE from Power 4 Michigan. Would it kill us to go after a few more kids like that? Schools like Minnesota, Mich State, Nebraska, Illinois, Iowa State have no problem pulling D1 prospects with lesser budgets than Iowa has. What are we so afraid of here?

Not Even a Scheduled Visit From ONE Power 4 Transfer?

Going down the list, there are thousands of Power 4 transfers in the portal right now. Ohio State cast offs. Texas cast offs. USC cast offs. The majority of the Power 4 kids are going to be considerably better than the majority of the FCS kids. That's just how football works. And before anyone says "but Gronk went to an FCS school," Gronk was not a diamond in the rough. He was an extremely well known commodity who started for 4 years at the FCS level and had offers from several Power 4 schools. That's why he demanded $2M to come to Iowa. He was not some diamond in the rough from Saginaw Valley State.

Man, we really need you in the football offices.
 

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I am much more concerned that competing will mean leveraging the future by jumping in on the private equity trend.
 
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WeBeHerkin

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Imagine how dumb you'd have to be to donate money to people more well off than 99.9999 % of the general population.
Well, you buy products of billionaires all the time. You say well I get something in return. I say sure, but you also get entertainment from the hard work of these kids who generate billions for media and the schools.
 

83Hawk

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Kirk has done pretty well as Iowa’s head coach. I trust his judgement over a no-nothing on an internet message board.
 
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3000 members is a sad reflection on the fanbase. Waiting around for a Daddy Warbucks to appear and donate millions is a bad plan. There is absolutely no reason why Iowa doesn't have 10,000+ Swarm members.

This is a sad reflection on our fanbase.
Hookers and blow has a much better return on investment than "The Swarm."
 

LetsGoHawks83

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3000 members is a sad reflection on the fanbase. Waiting around for a Daddy Warbucks to appear and donate millions is a bad plan. There is absolutely no reason why Iowa doesn't have 10,000+ Swarm members.

This is a sad reflection on our fanbase.

I see ZERO issues with people refusing to join Swarm. There are MANY more important things that middle-class Iowa families can spend their hard earned money.

This whole begging/shaming common fans to pay players just feels odd to me, honestly.

Setup business sponsorships like NIL intended. Leave the pay-for-play to the big daddy warbucks
 
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Brother, the portal hasn’t even been open a full week yet. Let’s wait and see a bit.

I get the impression that you think the portal closing on Jan 16 is a deadline that players have to transfer by. This is not the case. Jan 16 is their deadline to enter the portal, there is no official deadline to transfer and enroll anywhere. The only “deadline” would be when enrollment closes at schools, which I’m sure they can make exceptions for.

Also, the FCS guys (so far) this class are all multi year guys that will develop here. I personally am a fan of that strategy.

80% of in-state Big 12 Iowa State's roster hit the portal. Many of the guys are from Iowa and not all can go to Penn State. Not one has visited Iowa yet, and we'd prefer to look across the country at 2 star kids from Elon, Villenova, and Holy Cross? I think the only non FCS kid so far was a backup at James Madison this year?
I am a little surprised by no ISU visits yet, but this is a big in state rival. Most of them probably wouldn’t have Iowa at #1, even being in state. Especially those that were there for multiple years. Also, once again it hasn’t even been a week yet. Let’s wait a bit.

The Villinova and Elon guys were FCS all Americans as freshman. Simply referring to them as 2 stars is ridiculous.

That James Madison linemen played in every game and started in 1 for a playoff team as a true freshman. You’re really understating his accomplishments with that sentence.
And before everyone jumps in with "I'm a sheep and trust the coaches every step of the way, they are the best identifiers of small school talent," let's look at their track record going the small school route to find cheap diamonds in the rough. It's been an utter disaster:
I couldn’t disagree more.
FCS Portal Busts This Year

-CB Shahid Barrows came in this year from South Dakota (not State) to start at CB. The guy wasn't ready for prime time, failed to make the field, and the Hawks struggled at the position because of this miss.
He was brought in to be experienced depth/backup behind Lee and Hall. Not to start.
-OL Bryce George came in this year from Ferris State as a senior to start at tackle. Did he ever see the field?
He got hurt and missed the entire season. Sucks for him. Once again, he was brought in for depth. Not to start.
-WR Sam Phillips came in this year from FCS Chattanooga via Budmyer to start at WR and give Iowa the deep threat they've needed for so long. The guy was flat out AWFUL.
3rd leading receiver and lead the team in Yards Per Reception at 16.3.
-OL Daijon Parker came in from Saginaw Valley State last year with 1 year of eligibility to start at tackle. Never saw the field.
Also brought in for depth.
-WR Seth Anderson, the undersized son of an NFL WR, came in from his DII school with high expectations. In the past 2 years, he's had 15 catches for 150 yards and managed to actually downgrade Iowa's struggling WR corp.
Yea he was a bust. He was also brought in back in 2023 by Brian though, so that was to be expected.


Why not mention Wetjen and Hawthorne as small school guys that are good?
Not Even a Scheduled Visit From ONE Power 4 Transfer?

Going down the list, there are thousands of Power 4 transfers in the portal right now. Ohio State cast offs. Texas cast offs. USC cast offs. The majority of the Power 4 kids are going to be considerably better than the majority of the FCS kids. That's just how football works. And before anyone says "but Gronk went to an FCS school," Gronk was not a diamond in the rough. He was an extremely well known commodity who started for 4 years at the FCS level and had offers from several Power 4 schools. That's why he demanded $2M to come to Iowa. He was not some diamond in the rough from Saginaw Valley State.
I’m going to reiterate once again. It’s been less than a week.
 
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3000 members is a sad reflection on the fanbase. Waiting around for a Daddy Warbucks to appear and donate millions is a bad plan. There is absolutely no reason why Iowa doesn't have 10,000+ Swarm members.

This is a sad reflection on our fanbase.
The players don't deserve to get paid by the fans.

Not a single f***ing one of them. Deal with it.