Worse call by a referee?
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Last nights call was bad. But rather insignificant. That WVU call shifted the outcome of the game and season.
The foul as OSU's Thornton fell untouched as if diving for a touchdown in the lane was worse, only less impactful
On the Mark call, there was contact and it's somewhat understandable how it might be viewed as Mark (a freshman) reaching in to pry the ball away from OU's best player after a missed shot. It didn't happen that way, but in real time from a bad angle it might appear as if it did.
Thornton is also OSUs best player, so there's also some subconscious favoritism in each case, common to how games are officiated. Francis got some ref love too...
On the Mark call, there was contact and it's somewhat understandable how it might be viewed as Mark (a freshman) reaching in to pry the ball away from OU's best player after a missed shot. It didn't happen that way, but in real time from a bad angle it might appear as if it did.
Thornton is also OSUs best player, so there's also some subconscious favoritism in each case, common to how games are officiated. Francis got some ref love too...
For those like myself who may not have seen it. Part of the reason I stopped watching BB, both MBB and some WBB. People sometimes complain about football and refs do screw up but it's to a tolerable level of acceptance for me. BB always has been worse imo dating back to the BE (Cuse, ND, etc) and WBB with Stringer's best teams. I couldn't stand being so frustrated so often with pathetic uneven reffing.
Maybe we're thinking of different plays. But the illegal man downfield call that cost us a BCS appearance was against Louisville. It was an extremely bad and costly call. But on it's own merit, I would say the foul on Lino was ref malpractice.
Which WVU call are you guys talking about. Are you sure you don't mean Louisville?
The basketball non-call at OSU in 2022 was worse:
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Big Ten to Rutgers: We screwed up in loss to Ohio State
The Big Ten acknowledged the errors made in the final seconds of Rutgers' controversial loss to Ohio State on Friday.
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Correct. Would have been a big east title.
St. John’s player catching the ball with 3 secs left taking 6 steps while running out bounds to end BE tournament game
IIRC, under 1.0, RU was rarely close to beating WVU. Rich Rod is back at WVU- Greg should schedule a rematch. We might have a chance nowadays.
On the Men's BB there were a lot of complaints about the bald ref too.
What was the name of the infamously horrible men's BB ref that finally retired?
Thinking of someone more recent. I think it was Bo Boroski
there were at least 2-3 horrendous season changing calls against WVU but the downfield call was L'Ville- and the funny thing is, me and my buddy, sitting close to the field on the 30 had it right in front of us- we thought the flag was because of them holding our guy going out for the pass...
Kevin Brock was tackled but caught ball
Should’ve been PI and at least offsetting penalties
Most egregious bball foul call in my lifetime. Certainly top 5 overall.
One that just occurred to me is the clock management at the end of the game for WBB versus Tennessee, where they magically got extra time.
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Technical called on Calipari in early 90s in sweet 16 for being outside the coaches box vs Kentucky.
1b ump Wrong call to ruin Detroit pitcher Gallaragga perfect game
1b ump Wrong call to ruin Detroit pitcher Gallaragga perfect game
It was a literal mugging . Horrible call
It was DC Jefferson, and even offsetting penalties would have still been an absolute farce because it still would have robbed us of a touchdown. It was a fake field goal, I can't imagine they would have attempted the fake again if they had to replay the down.
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My only guess is that, from her angle near the sideline, she thought she saw Lino initiate some sort of improper contact with the Oregon player at the top of the key. From the camera angle, he sure didn’t. And she got it wrong.
Nice win.
Nice win.
Yes - there’s a difference between a bad call and an error. That makes the OSU thing way worse in my opinion. In that case, the game winning basket happened as a direct result of a player cutting back in after running out of bounds and receiving a pass for an open look which the rule book says is not allowed. Whether our defender (Mag in that case) knew the rule or not is besides the point. In that situation, the correct defensive play was, in fact, to back off on defense and prioritize coverage elsewhere since the player cutting back onto the court from out of bounds was not supposed to be an eligible pass receiver. It is for this reason, that this missed call ought to stand alone as the worst reffing mistakes in RU history. Bad calls happen all the time. Fouls on the wrong kid, etc. missed no calls when a kid steps on an out of bounds line with the ball and kids are taught they should play on. Fine. As BAC and a number of others often point out, bad calls generally even out.
What made that OSU thing different was the fact that leaving the player who scored open was the correct defensive decision and RU was directly punished for it. “Play on” after a missed call is not the same thing as saying our defense should’ve schemed to defend a pass to a non-eligible receiver just in case the refs miss the call.
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That Oregon player looks 40 years old. He is listed as 22. Refs should have asked for his birth certificate.
Posted on the thread on the basketball board-this ref seems to have quite an extensive history of bad calls and/or errors based on posts on X from fans at other B1G schools. But there were also a lot of posts complaining about the officiating in B1G men's basketball generally.
Yeah - I have a feeling she will face some consequences after the media attention that one got…
i still think there is a distinction between an error and a missed call or phantom foul / penalty call (however bad the call). What happened vs OSU in basketball would be the equivalent in football of a receiver blatantly running out of bounds and then cutting back on the field for wide open reception taken to the house for a game winning touchdown without a flag being thrown or the play being reviewed (it would never happen obviously but my point being - the reason the receiver would be open would be because once he stepped out of bounds the DB wouldn’t worry about him since he’s no longer an eligible receiver - “play on” would not apply in the sense that the DB would or should be expected to focus on defending that receiver just in case the ref doesn’t throw the flag.
I said that exact same thing during the game. Even went to the Oregon roster to check his age. You can't really see it from that angle but he had a serious bald patch in the back of his head
Since that moment, I basically equated Women's hoops to pro wrestling. It's entertainment, but it's not legitimate competition. If it was, there was no way the referees would have let that go. I always wanted to ask CVS why she didn't lose her mind over it more but didn't have the nerve.
B1G doesn’t have its own bball ref crews, the conference shares refs with other conferences.
The chronic whining about bad calls gets annoying. Messages to coaches and players is be up by enough in final seconds so a bad call doesn’t cost you the game. Posters act like it is the ending of the ‘72 USA-USSR gold medal game.
I will say Pike’s history of being Mr. Nice Guy might have saved him from getting a technical against Oregon on that Lino rebound foul call. Dan Hurley would have been given a technical if he reacted as Pike did.
Let’s see if Dan gets a technical tonight at Providence. Last time there, he challenged a fan to a fight. Game on Peacock.
The chronic whining about bad calls gets annoying. Messages to coaches and players is be up by enough in final seconds so a bad call doesn’t cost you the game. Posters act like it is the ending of the ‘72 USA-USSR gold medal game.
I will say Pike’s history of being Mr. Nice Guy might have saved him from getting a technical against Oregon on that Lino rebound foul call. Dan Hurley would have been given a technical if he reacted as Pike did.
Let’s see if Dan gets a technical tonight at Providence. Last time there, he challenged a fan to a fight. Game on Peacock.
I would say the "chronic whining" has been WAY down this year. A call here or there, but I remember the time when there would be lengthy threads about the refs.
I really chuckle at many of the fans around me during games constantly yelling about fouls and walks that really have no idea.