$7,000,000 for a QB

rutgersguy2

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Hard to always verify all the finer details of these deals with incentives etc..headline number isn’t always accurate.

Plus it’s a 2 year deal so would be about 3.5M/yr if face value numbers are accurate. Mensah reportedly got 4M/yr this year at Duke but other reports had it closer to 3M with incentives pushing it higher.

It’s possible a qb could get 5M/yr this year but we’ll see and again face value reports aren’t always exactly accurate.

Also Mestemaker is rejoining Morris, his coach from North Texas. He didn’t even start for his high school team so I say good for him.
 

T2Kplus20

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Hard to always verify all the finer details of these deals with incentives etc..headline number isn’t always accurate.

Plus it’s a 2 year deal so would be about 3.5M/yr if face value numbers are accurate. Mensah reportedly got 4M/yr this year at Duke but other reports had it closer to 3M with incentives pushing it higher.

It’s possible a qb could get 5M/yr this year but we’ll see and again face value reports aren’t always exactly accurate.
College sports = crap
 

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College sports = crap
I have no issue with any of it, imo it’s never been better with more parity and opportunity than ever before for everyone from the top down.

A little more structure would be good but on balance it’s all a net positive imo.

I’ll take the landscape now over seeing Alabama and Clemson in the final 4 so often. This year we have 3 teams that have never won a championship before and 1 who hasn’t won or sniffed one in 20+ years. 75% chance of a first time champion. I’m good with a landscape where so many things are possible now that weren’t possible in the past.
 

RU#1fan

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I have no issue with any of it, imo it’s never been better with more parity and opportunity than ever before for everyone from the top down.

A little more structure would be good but on balance it’s all a net positive imo.

I’ll take the landscape now over seeing Alabama and Clemson in the final 4 so often. This year we have 3 teams that have never won a championship before and 1 who hasn’t won or sniffed one in 20+ years. 75% chance of a first time champion. I’m good with a landscape where so many things are possible now that weren’t possible in the past.
Parity ..LMAO
With no cap on Teams in the money being spent to “buy” players is an absolute joke. Big whale programs will dominate the landscape while the majority of teams will sit by and become forever irrelevant.
 

rutgersguy2

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Parity ..LMAO
With no cap on Teams in the money being spent to “buy” players is an absolute joke. Big whale programs will dominate the landscape while the majority of teams will sit by and become forever irrelevant.
It’s not absolute parity but way more than before.

Anybody has a chance to make some noise and achieve noteworthy goals, you don’t get Vandy, TCU, Cincy, IU, Ole Miss, TT, Washington, etc without the new landscape. On a higher level, you don’t get a rejuvenated Michigan or a Miami either who hadn’t done squat in decades.

People say the whale programs hoard players but actually talent has never been more dispersed than it is now, especially at qb. There’s a balance between money and playing opportunities that’s different for each individual. Those whale programs aren’t as deep as the past and can’t stash away so many players because those players want to play and can still make some money somewhere else as well.
 

T2Kplus20

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I have no issue with any of it, imo it’s never been better with more parity and opportunity than ever before for everyone from the top down.

A little more structure would be good but on balance it’s all a net positive imo.

I’ll take the landscape now over seeing Alabama and Clemson in the final 4 so often. This year we have 3 teams that have never won a championship before and 1 who hasn’t won or sniffed one in 20+ years. 75% chance of a first time champion. I’m good with a landscape where so many things are possible now that weren’t possible in the past.
Since college sports (really football and b-ball) is now professional, why bother with the minor leagues? Just watch the real pros and best leagues.

College basketball = sub-G-league quality
College football = sub-UFL quality

The hook was watching young players develop and represent your college. Now that it's professional, the quality is crap.
 

T2Kplus20

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Parity ..LMAO
With no cap on Teams in the money being spent to “buy” players is an absolute joke. Big whale programs will dominate the landscape while the majority of teams will sit by and become forever irrelevant.
+1
That parity comment was hysterical.
 

Bueller

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Major CFB = pro league now.

NFL a lot more off the hook with NFL DEs making 40 million plus a year. CEO of Walmart made 27.4 salary in 2024 (1.5m + stock). Historically these sorts of excesses are how things look before a crack-up
 

rutgersguy2

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Since college sports (really football and b-ball) is now professional, why bother with the minor leagues? Just watch the real pros and best leagues.

College basketball = sub-G-league quality
College football = sub-UFL quality

The hook was watching young players develop and represent your college. Now that it's professional, the quality is crap.
Hook for me is I’m a Rutgers alum and whoever puts on that uniform or is on the sidelines I root for and I root for other similar underdogs that’s it. I don’t follow other college sports or pro sports.

Ratings have never been better and more games with more stakes in them and more fans having hope to achieve something notable going into a season increases interest. The NFL is the only thing that beats CFB in ratings.
 

T2Kplus20

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Hook for me is I’m a Rutgers alum and whoever puts on that uniform or is on the sidelines I root for and I root for other similar underdogs that’s it. I don’t follow other college sports or pro sports.

Ratings have never been better and more games with more stakes in them and more fans having hope to achieve something notable going into a season increases interest. The NFL is the only thing that beats CFB in ratings.
That's a very low bar. Sorry, I don't care about 1-year, blink and they're gone, mercenaries that happen to wear an RU uniform for a short period of time. They couldn't care less about our alma mater. Green is the only color that matters.
 

Rutgers Chris

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It's not more parity, just different. Still solely a sport of the have's and have nots.
Indiana was a have not two years ago. Teams have a better chance at upward mobility now more than ever. I’d like to see some improvements to how these transfers work but otherwise like @rutgersguy2 said, ratings have never been higher. I’d much rather watch a top 10 matchup than a Raiders game at this point

 

T2Kplus20

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Indiana was a have not two years ago. Teams have a better chance at upward mobility now more than ever. I’d like to see some improvements to how these transfers work but otherwise like @rutgersguy2 said, ratings have never been higher. I’d much rather watch a top 10 matchup than a Raiders game at this point


Slow down. The Raiders are playing their most important game in over a decade today! :)

In light of professional sports, college football is lower quality than the UFL or CFL. No thanks.

IU might have a generational coach. They would have made it to the 4-team pre-NIL CFP. No doubt.
 

T2Kplus20

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Can you think of bigger have nots than Vandy and IU lol and now they’re sniffing a little of what the haves have been enjoying for decades. Not possible without the current landscape.
Don't confuse the 12-team CFP/NIL with the 4-team CFP/pre-NIL. You need to compare apples with apples. All these NIL "success stories" would have been pre-NIL success stories if 8 more teams were added to those playoffs.
 

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Don't confuse the 12-team CFP/NIL with the 4-team CFP/pre-NIL. You need to compare apples with apples. All these NIL "success stories" would have been pre-NIL success stories if 8 more teams were added to the playoffs.
IU is the the 1 seed and B10 champ
 

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And they would have been in the old format.
The point is without the new college football landscape of NIL/portal they would be the nothing seed and still the losingest program in CFB. They wouldn’t exist as they do now in the old world of CFB
 
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And ta think this all was started by the College that played the First Collegiate football game.
RU football QB Ryan who?
 

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And the Poster is actually trying to defend that comment. { “but not perfect parity” } . You can’t make this stuff up what people think. SMH
And why wouldn’t I, what have I said that was inaccurate?

Do you get IU, Vandy, TCU, Cincy, Ole Miss etc type stories without portal or NIL? Did we see anything like these kind of things in the past? If not then is that not more parity than before where opportunity for anyone to achieve notable goals is better than the past?
 
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T2Kplus20

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The point is without the new college football landscape of NIL/portal they would be the nothing seed and still the losingest program in CFB. They wouldn’t exist as they do now in the old world of CFB
With the old system, CC would have over-performed with 3 star players, built the program, started to attractive 4 and 5 star players, become an elite program and earned the #1 in a CFP the right way. The only thing you can argue is NIL allowed CC to achieve this quicker. But even with that, it's still a negative since fans didn't get to enjoy the journey and more appreciate the outcome.
 

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Parity ..LMAO
With no cap on Teams in the money being spent to “buy” players is an absolute joke. Big whale programs will dominate the landscape while the majority of teams will sit by and become forever irrelevant.
The final four playoff teams are Ole Miss, Oregon, Miami, and Indiana. Miami is the only program in that group that's won a National Championship in this century. And that was 25 years ago. Ole Miss and Indiana were irrelevant until recently. Indiana was the losingest program in college football until now.
 

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With the old system, CC would have over-performed with 3 star players, built the program, started to attractive 4 and 5 star players, become an elite program and earned the #1 in a CFP the right way. The only thing you can argue is NIL allowed CC to achieve this quicker. But even with that, it's still a negative since fans didn't get to enjoy the journey and more appreciate the outcome.

unfortunately @rutgersguy2 is correct

there absolutely is more parity now.

Many of you (and me) might not like the WAY it is being done (by programs BUYING their way to success rather than recruiting and developing kids) but more parity is just fact

further many of you (and me) might enjoy college sports far less now as a result but the FACT is that TV ratings have never been better . So it’s hardly turning people away

One last fact, I think, is that many (all?) on here complaining about the state of college sports are likely middle-aged or older and we just WISH things would just stay the way things were - we liked the illusion of amateurism in college sports.

but that’s gone .

frankly most on here complaining about it are just dinosaurs (including me)

the parity and the ratings are just fact

my enjoyment of college sports is definitely far less than it was

but I honestly can’t tell you how much of my reduced enthusiasm is based on the current state of college sports vs the fact that our two main programs suck

and I wonder if I would be just as excited if Rutgers PAID its way to success like these other programs.

After all - winning is fun
 
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The final four playoff teams are Ole Miss, Oregon, Miami, and Indiana. Miami is the only program in that group that's won a National Championship in this century. And that was 25 years ago. Ole Miss and Indiana were irrelevant until recently. Indiana was the losingest program in college football until now.
Let's calm down. Oregon has been a blue-blood program for the past 10-15 years, including many trips to the CFP and finals. Ole Miss has been a very, very good SEC team that just hasn't gotten over the Bama/Georgia hump. They would have been in the CFP multiple times pre-NIL if the playoffs used the 12-team format.
 
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T2Kplus20

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unfortunately @rutgersguy2 is correct

there absolutely is more parity now.

Many of you (and me) might not like the WAY it is being done (by programs BUYING their way to success rather than recruiting and developing kids) but more parity is just fact

further many of you (and me) might enjoy college sports far less now as a result but the FACT is that TV ratings have never been better . So it’s hardly turning people away

One last fact is that I think many on here arguing against the state of college sports are likely middle-aged or older and we just WISH things would just stay the way things were - we liked the illusion of amateurism in college sports.

but that’s gone .

frankly most on here complaining about it are just dinosaurs (including me)

the parity and the ratings are just fact

my enjoyment of college sports is definitely far less than it was

but I honestly can’t tell you how much of my reduced enthusiasm is based on the current state of college sports vs the fact that our two main programs suck

and I wonder if I would be just as excited if Rutgers PAID its way to success like these other programs. After all - winning is fun
Sorry, the facts are against you. Compare the current NIL years with the previous ones if the playoffs were 12 teams. Same level of parity.

Satisfaction with college football is plummeting, which is a leading indicator for ratings. The sports only hope is government intervention.
 

Jtung230

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Put things into perspective. That’s about the entire payroll for RU last year.
 

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Satisfaction with college football is plummeting, which is a leading indicator for ratings. The sports only hope is government intervention.

Others above have already addressed the parity issue. You can choose to disagree/ ignore.

with respect to ratings, a quick google ask brings up this:

College football viewership generally trends upward, with significant peaks during the College Football Playoff (CFP) and major rivalries, showing strong performance in the 2024 and early 2025 seasons with record-setting games, though the expanded 12-team CFP first round in late 2025 saw a slight dip due to NFL competition, with major networks like ESPN and Fox consistently drawing tens of millions for top games, while niche platforms like The CW saw growth.

Key Viewership Trends (2024-2025 Season)

  • Record-Breaking Regular Season: The 2025 regular season featured a surge in viewers, with numerous games exceeding 4-10 million, driven by powerhouse matchups like Ohio State vs. Michigan and SEC Championship games.
  • CFP Expansion Impact: The first year of the 12-team CFP in late 2024/early 2025 saw strong viewership, but the 2025 CFP first round experienced a 7% drop compared to the previous year, partly due to NFL doubleheaders and some games on TNT/TBS.
  • Network Dominance: ABC/ESPN and Fox consistently pull the largest audiences, but other networks like Big Ten Network (BTN), FS1, and The CW also saw significant gains.
 

T2Kplus20

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Others above have already addressed the parity issue. You can choose to disagree/ ignore.

with respect to ratings, a quick google ask brings up this:

College football viewership generally trends upward, with significant peaks during the College Football Playoff (CFP) and major rivalries, showing strong performance in the 2024 and early 2025 seasons with record-setting games, though the expanded 12-team CFP first round in late 2025 saw a slight dip due to NFL competition, with major networks like ESPN and Fox consistently drawing tens of millions for top games, while niche platforms like The CW saw growth.

Key Viewership Trends (2024-2025 Season)

  • Record-Breaking Regular Season: The 2025 regular season featured a surge in viewers, with numerous games exceeding 4-10 million, driven by powerhouse matchups like Ohio State vs. Michigan and SEC Championship games.
  • CFP Expansion Impact: The first year of the 12-team CFP in late 2024/early 2025 saw strong viewership, but the 2025 CFP first round experienced a 7% drop compared to the previous year, partly due to NFL doubleheaders and some games on TNT/TBS.
  • Network Dominance: ABC/ESPN and Fox consistently pull the largest audiences, but other networks like Big Ten Network (BTN), FS1, and The CW also saw significant gains.
Sorry, this is irrelevant to the post you are replying to. Also, the parity data supported my POV when looking at apples to apples.
 

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And the Poster is actually trying to defend that comment. { “but not perfect parity” } . You can’t make this stuff up what people think. SMH
I'm trying to understand what you guys are trying to say. He's saying he enjoys the fact that there is more parity than ever in college football. What is it that you guys disagree with?