Why MAGA’s Canonization of Charlie Kirk Is Truly Monstrous

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Why MAGA’s Canonization of Charlie Kirk Is Truly Monstrous

It is one thing to condemn, as we all should, the brutal murder of Charlie Kirk or, for those who cared about him, to mourn his death.

It is quite another to turn Kirk into a MAGA saint, or to use his death as a Reichstag fire-like justification for increasing Trump’s authoritarian chokehold on America.

I am sure that Kirk and his family are grateful for the outpourings of support from the president and vice president of the United States, the cabinet, members of Congress, the media, and the public.

But at this point, it appears that we as a country have lost our minds.


The president of the United States has ordered all flags in the United States to fly at half-mast. He has announced he will posthumously award Kirk the Presidential Medal of Freedom. The vice president decided to skip out on 9/11 observations—among the most solemn on the federal calendar—to be with Kirk’s family.

He then offered Air Force Two to fly Kirk’s casket from Utah to Arizona. The Secretary of Defense used a 9/11 remembrance speech to salute Kirk. Congress declared a moment of silent reflection on the loss. So too did sporting events across America. Trump called Kirk “a martyr.”

As if Charlie Kirk were some kind of American hero.

But Kirk was no hero. The record is clear. If Kirk was a victim of a pernicious culture of violence in America, it must also be acknowledged that he was an author of that culture.

His primary accomplishment in life was to foment hatred and division across the United States. He blamed all of America’s ills on the left, and cheered violent attacks on Democrats. He fought against equal rights for many Americans; some of his last words were condemning women’s reproductive freedoms. He promoted America’s gun pathology, and asserted the death of innocents was an acceptable cost for that culture.

However, what is happening is far worse than simply devoting our national resources or devaluing our national reputation by elevating an unworthy individual.

In tributes from across the political spectrum, Kirk is being praised as a champion of “free speech.” He was not. He mercilessly attacked those with whom he did not agree. He was an enemy of truth and of equity. Kirk perverted the idea of our First Amendment rights to suggest they required universities to embrace lies, as though there were some obligation to present unfounded idiocy and malice simply because some special interest or political group supported them.

Much of his political identity was tied up in the dangerous promotion of white Christian nativism and its alliance with the most corrupt president in American history—a felon, a sex offender, a man who incited an insurrection against the United States government.

This president has already explicitly said he will use the attack on Kirk to justify going after his opponents, condemning the “left” in America as terrorists and lunatics and asserting—without presenting evidence—that they were responsible for Kirk’s murder. The State Department announced consular officials were being directed to revoke visas or deny them to people who might have commented on Kirk or his death in ways they did not approve of.

What a fitting tribute to a fake First Amendment warrior.

The right in America has also sought to use similar criteria—posting or sharing views of Kirk they felt were critical of him, even when those views were entirely fact-based—to cancel media commentators and even social media posters.

How do we reconcile that with the assertions that Kirk “did politics right” or promoted free speech?

Easy.

These tributes are bulls--t. Furthermore, many of those on the far right who are elevating Kirk to a lofty pedestal that he does not deserve are doing so to help them justify precisely what they claim he stood for.


Trump, and Vance, and Hegseth, and Rubio, and Patel, and Loomer may be truly shocked and appalled by Kirk’s murder—as we all should be—but they also instantly saw it as an opportunity to accelerate their campaign to attack our democratic institutions and to demonize all those who do not agree with them.

Kirk’s supporters are the ones embracing the language of war at this moment. It is no accident that you hear such rhetoric from Jesse Watters on Fox News or from Steve Bannon or Elon Musk, just as it is not a coincidence that Trump has been deploying troops on American streets or promoting memes depicting him as leading a battle against American cities. The war against their opponents, using the resources of the federal government to suppress dissent, gut democracy and solidify their rule on this country was their priority all along.

Now, the death of Charlie Kirk, and the elevation of Charlie Kirk, and the lies about who Charlie Kirk was are all being used as weapons in that war, as part of a new offensive against those who believe in the values and ideals on which this country was founded.

This is not merely about an outpouring of emotion and over-the-top responses to the grief of a horrible moment.

Nor are they the usual spin of partisans. They are something far more dangerous—the monstrous opportunism of those who have been planning for a moment like this all along, a moment that rather than making America great again, is seized in the hopes of making the America we once knew, an America for all of us, the America that guys like Charlie Kirk have long sought to undermine, cease to exist. Once and for all.
 

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What else would you expect from David Rothkopf, a liberal far left conservative hater....sad...sad...sad.

There was no need for him to spew his hatred on Charlie Kirk. No one canonized Charlie Kirk.
 

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Why MAGA’s Canonization of Charlie Kirk Is Truly Monstrous

It is one thing to condemn, as we all should, the brutal murder of Charlie Kirk or, for those who cared about him, to mourn his death.

It is quite another to turn Kirk into a MAGA saint, or to use his death as a Reichstag fire-like justification for increasing Trump’s authoritarian chokehold on America.

I am sure that Kirk and his family are grateful for the outpourings of support from the president and vice president of the United States, the cabinet, members of Congress, the media, and the public.

But at this point, it appears that we as a country have lost our minds.

The president of the United States has ordered all flags in the United States to fly at half-mast.
He has announced he will posthumously award Kirk the Presidential Medal of Freedom. The vice president decided to skip out on 9/11 observations—among the most solemn on the federal calendar—to be with Kirk’s family.

He then offered Air Force Two to fly Kirk’s casket from Utah to Arizona. The Secretary of Defense used a 9/11 remembrance speech to salute Kirk. Congress declared a moment of silent reflection on the loss. So too did sporting events across America. Trump called Kirk “a martyr.”

As if Charlie Kirk were some kind of American hero.

But Kirk was no hero. The record is clear. If Kirk was a victim of a pernicious culture of violence in America, it must also be acknowledged that he was an author of that culture.

His primary accomplishment in life was to foment hatred and division across the United States. He blamed all of America’s ills on the left, and cheered violent attacks on Democrats. He fought against equal rights for many Americans; some of his last words were condemning women’s reproductive freedoms. He promoted America’s gun pathology, and asserted the death of innocents was an acceptable cost for that culture.

However, what is happening is far worse than simply devoting our national resources or devaluing our national reputation by elevating an unworthy individual.

In tributes from across the political spectrum, Kirk is being praised as a champion of “free speech.” He was not. He mercilessly attacked those with whom he did not agree. He was an enemy of truth and of equity. Kirk perverted the idea of our First Amendment rights to suggest they required universities to embrace lies, as though there were some obligation to present unfounded idiocy and malice simply because some special interest or political group supported them.

Much of his political identity was tied up in the dangerous promotion of white Christian nativism and its alliance with the most corrupt president in American history—a felon, a sex offender, a man who incited an insurrection against the United States government.

This president has already explicitly said he will use the attack on Kirk to justify going after his opponents, condemning the “left” in America as terrorists and lunatics and asserting—without presenting evidence—that they were responsible for Kirk’s murder. The State Department announced consular officials were being directed to revoke visas or deny them to people who might have commented on Kirk or his death in ways they did not approve of.

What a fitting tribute to a fake First Amendment warrior.

The right in America has also sought to use similar criteria—posting or sharing views of Kirk they felt were critical of him, even when those views were entirely fact-based—to cancel media commentators and even social media posters.

How do we reconcile that with the assertions that Kirk “did politics right” or promoted free speech?

Easy.

These tributes are bulls--t. Furthermore, many of those on the far right who are elevating Kirk to a lofty pedestal that he does not deserve are doing so to help them justify precisely what they claim he stood for.


Trump, and Vance, and Hegseth, and Rubio, and Patel, and Loomer may be truly shocked and appalled by Kirk’s murder—as we all should be—but they also instantly saw it as an opportunity to accelerate their campaign to attack our democratic institutions and to demonize all those who do not agree with them.

Kirk’s supporters are the ones embracing the language of war at this moment. It is no accident that you hear such rhetoric from Jesse Watters on Fox News or from Steve Bannon or Elon Musk, just as it is not a coincidence that Trump has been deploying troops on American streets or promoting memes depicting him as leading a battle against American cities. The war against their opponents, using the resources of the federal government to suppress dissent, gut democracy and solidify their rule on this country was their priority all along.

Now, the death of Charlie Kirk, and the elevation of Charlie Kirk, and the lies about who Charlie Kirk was are all being used as weapons in that war, as part of a new offensive against those who believe in the values and ideals on which this country was founded.

This is not merely about an outpouring of emotion and over-the-top responses to the grief of a horrible moment.

Nor are they the usual spin of partisans. They are something far more dangerous—the monstrous opportunism of those who have been planning for a moment like this all along, a moment that rather than making America great again, is seized in the hopes of making the America we once knew, an America for all of us, the America that guys like Charlie Kirk have long sought to undermine, cease to exist. Once and for all.
We didn’t make him a martyr, you all did, by assassinating him.
 

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Why MAGA’s Canonization of Charlie Kirk Is Truly Monstrous

It is one thing to condemn, as we all should, the brutal murder of Charlie Kirk or, for those who cared about him, to mourn his death.

It is quite another to turn Kirk into a MAGA saint, or to use his death as a Reichstag fire-like justification for increasing Trump’s authoritarian chokehold on America.

I am sure that Kirk and his family are grateful for the outpourings of support from the president and vice president of the United States, the cabinet, members of Congress, the media, and the public.

But at this point, it appears that we as a country have lost our minds.

The president of the United States has ordered all flags in the United States to fly at half-mast.
He has announced he will posthumously award Kirk the Presidential Medal of Freedom. The vice president decided to skip out on 9/11 observations—among the most solemn on the federal calendar—to be with Kirk’s family.

He then offered Air Force Two to fly Kirk’s casket from Utah to Arizona. The Secretary of Defense used a 9/11 remembrance speech to salute Kirk. Congress declared a moment of silent reflection on the loss. So too did sporting events across America. Trump called Kirk “a martyr.”

As if Charlie Kirk were some kind of American hero.

But Kirk was no hero. The record is clear. If Kirk was a victim of a pernicious culture of violence in America, it must also be acknowledged that he was an author of that culture.

His primary accomplishment in life was to foment hatred and division across the United States. He blamed all of America’s ills on the left, and cheered violent attacks on Democrats. He fought against equal rights for many Americans; some of his last words were condemning women’s reproductive freedoms. He promoted America’s gun pathology, and asserted the death of innocents was an acceptable cost for that culture.

However, what is happening is far worse than simply devoting our national resources or devaluing our national reputation by elevating an unworthy individual.

In tributes from across the political spectrum, Kirk is being praised as a champion of “free speech.” He was not. He mercilessly attacked those with whom he did not agree. He was an enemy of truth and of equity. Kirk perverted the idea of our First Amendment rights to suggest they required universities to embrace lies, as though there were some obligation to present unfounded idiocy and malice simply because some special interest or political group supported them.

Much of his political identity was tied up in the dangerous promotion of white Christian nativism and its alliance with the most corrupt president in American history—a felon, a sex offender, a man who incited an insurrection against the United States government.

This president has already explicitly said he will use the attack on Kirk to justify going after his opponents, condemning the “left” in America as terrorists and lunatics and asserting—without presenting evidence—that they were responsible for Kirk’s murder. The State Department announced consular officials were being directed to revoke visas or deny them to people who might have commented on Kirk or his death in ways they did not approve of.

What a fitting tribute to a fake First Amendment warrior.

The right in America has also sought to use similar criteria—posting or sharing views of Kirk they felt were critical of him, even when those views were entirely fact-based—to cancel media commentators and even social media posters.

How do we reconcile that with the assertions that Kirk “did politics right” or promoted free speech?

Easy.

These tributes are bulls--t. Furthermore, many of those on the far right who are elevating Kirk to a lofty pedestal that he does not deserve are doing so to help them justify precisely what they claim he stood for.


Trump, and Vance, and Hegseth, and Rubio, and Patel, and Loomer may be truly shocked and appalled by Kirk’s murder—as we all should be—but they also instantly saw it as an opportunity to accelerate their campaign to attack our democratic institutions and to demonize all those who do not agree with them.

Kirk’s supporters are the ones embracing the language of war at this moment. It is no accident that you hear such rhetoric from Jesse Watters on Fox News or from Steve Bannon or Elon Musk, just as it is not a coincidence that Trump has been deploying troops on American streets or promoting memes depicting him as leading a battle against American cities. The war against their opponents, using the resources of the federal government to suppress dissent, gut democracy and solidify their rule on this country was their priority all along.

Now, the death of Charlie Kirk, and the elevation of Charlie Kirk, and the lies about who Charlie Kirk was are all being used as weapons in that war, as part of a new offensive against those who believe in the values and ideals on which this country was founded.

This is not merely about an outpouring of emotion and over-the-top responses to the grief of a horrible moment.

Nor are they the usual spin of partisans. They are something far more dangerous—the monstrous opportunism of those who have been planning for a moment like this all along, a moment that rather than making America great again, is seized in the hopes of making the America we once knew, an America for all of us, the America that guys like Charlie Kirk have long sought to undermine, cease to exist. Once and for all.


I see you are persistent with going down with the ship after years of me warming you to make new friends.


 
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Read between the lines.






Just spoke with top FBI official who made it very clear that they have NOT ruled out co-conspirators in Charlie Kirk’s assassination: “That assumption is premature. This investigation is just beginning. An enormous amount of evidence has been seized both digital and physical.” FBI sources assure me the public will “know everything” about the dark internet history, chats and affiliations of Kirk’s left-wing political assassin. The source then alluded to some online groups attempting to delete or destroy evidence. “We have everything. We are focused on the radicalization element. The truth will not be hidden, or buried or classified. The public will know.”
 

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Read between the lines.






Just spoke with top FBI official who made it very clear that they have NOT ruled out co-conspirators in Charlie Kirk’s assassination: “That assumption is premature. This investigation is just beginning. An enormous amount of evidence has been seized both digital and physical.” FBI sources assure me the public will “know everything” about the dark internet history, chats and affiliations of Kirk’s left-wing political assassin. The source then alluded to some online groups attempting to delete or destroy evidence. “We have everything. We are focused on the radicalization element. The truth will not be hidden, or buried or classified. The public will know.”

The truth means zero to Moe who just plain hates all conservatives and Republicans. Moe must be part of those old WV Dems that still live in the hollows and hills and will NEVER change and are waiting for their next Bobby Byrd Klan leader to emerge.
 

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The truth means zero to Moe who just plain hates all conservatives and Republicans. Moe must be part of those old WV Dems that still live in the hollows and hills and will NEVER change and are waiting for their next Bobby Byrd Klan leader to emerge.

Moe is a Troskyite who can't read the room.


Troskyite believe?



Trotskyists are Marxists who adhere to the political and economic theories of Leon Trotsky and believe that socialism can only be achieved globally through a worldwide working-class revolution, in opposition to Stalin's theory of "socialism in one country". They advocate for working-class self-emancipation, democratic worker control of production, and the establishment of a decentralized socialist economy based on international cooperation and worker councils.

Key Beliefs of Trotskyism:
  • Permanent Revolution:
    This theory emphasizes that a socialist revolution, once begun in one country, must rapidly spread to other nations to succeed and prevent its collapse due to isolation or capitalist backlash.
 

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Moe is a Troskyite who can't read the room.


Troskyite believe?



Trotskyists are Marxists who adhere to the political and economic theories of Leon Trotsky and believe that socialism can only be achieved globally through a worldwide working-class revolution, in opposition to Stalin's theory of "socialism in one country". They advocate for working-class self-emancipation, democratic worker control of production, and the establishment of a decentralized socialist economy based on international cooperation and worker councils.

Key Beliefs of Trotskyism:
  • Permanent Revolution:
    This theory emphasizes that a socialist revolution, once begun in one country, must rapidly spread to other nations to succeed and prevent its collapse due to isolation or capitalist backlash.
The Trotsky theory is gaining traction...all these people among others are strong far left Socialists with Communist leans that are commenting about the Kirk murder:

David Rothkopf was born to a Jewish family. Laurence Tribe was born to a Jewish family. J.B. Pritzker is Jewish. György Schwartz,aka George Soros, was born in Budapest to a Jewish family
 

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The Trotsky theory is gaining traction...all these people among others are strong far left Socialists with Communist leans that are commenting about the Kirk murder:

David Rothkopf was born to a Jewish family. Laurence Tribe was born to a Jewish family. J.B. Pritzker is Jewish. György Schwartz,aka George Soros, was born in Budapest to a Jewish family

Unfortunately it isn't a theory. It's a global movement that I have been pointing out for a long time now. It's got nothing to do with Jews. There are Conservative Jews, Moderate Jews, and Radical Communist Jews. Just like every other Race and Religion.

CCP, Islamic Socialist, Islamic Jihadist, Cartels, and what's left of the Democrat Party are all working together. They even got some Neo-Nazis groups working with them. The goal is to destroy Weastetn Civilization. Troskyitism is the tool that gets them there. Hence why the Color Revolution needs put down hard.


The groups I have been mentioning over the years were infiltrated along time ago. Intelligence of their goals is known. It's not a secret. The MSM, Democrat Politicians, and even idiots like Lankford have protected them. That just came to an end.

 
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Unfortunately it isn't a theory. It's a global movement that I have been pointing out for a long time now. It's got nothing to do with Jews. There are Conservative Jews, Moderate Jews, and Radical Communist Jews. Just like every other Race and Religion.

CCP, Islamic Socialist, Islamic Jihadist, Cartels, and what's left of the Democrat Party are all working together. They even got some Neo-Nazis groups working with them. The goal is to destroy Weastetn Civilization. Troskyitism is the tool that gets them there.
The Jews I mentioned are ALL far left radical socialists with communist leanings that believe in Troskyitism.

Lev Davidovich Bronstein, aka Leon Trotsky, was born into into a wealthy Jewish family.

True...it's not about ALL Jews...this group all hate Benjamin Netanyahu.
 

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The Jews I mentioned are ALL far left radical socialists with communist leanings that believe in Troskyitism.

Lev Davidovich Bronstein, aka Leon Trotsky, was born into into a wealthy Jewish family.

True...it's not about ALL Jews...this group all hate Benjamin Netanyahu.

Get what you are saying now. However there are idiots that tried to blame Israel over this. That's how they get the Neo-Nazis and Islamic Jihadist to support them. So all I can say to those that don't support Israel or are critical of them is don't get suckered into falling for that. Their movement accepts anyone that wants to destroy Weastetn Civilization. Until they don't.
 

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They already knew it was coming. It's why they are radicalizing people.
 

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The same groups that are radicalizing the left radicalized this kid. Same goals they just find what interests you and exploit it to get the violence.


 

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The truth means zero to Moe who just plain hates all conservatives and Republicans. Moe must be part of those old WV Dems that still live in the hollows and hills and will NEVER change and are waiting for their next Bobby Byrd Klan leader to emerge.
You know the OP is so blinded by hate and infused with Leftist doctrine he couldn't begin to understand Charlie Kirk's significance. The beauty of Charlie was how he engaged those who disagreed with him, using their own logic.

He never shouted, or called names, or even accused his opponents of ignorance. He simply engaged them where they stood asking them to defend their beliefs, while he easily defended his own using fact, unassailable logic, and even compassion.

Listen to how he engaged these students on DEI...and how effective he was in countering all the cultural rot they're infused with that America is a "racist" country. Charlie's true significance was in the minds he ultimately changed with the Truth.

That's why he's despised on the Left, because the Truth exposes the fallacies of their entire world view.

 
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Unfortunately it isn't a theory. It's a global movement that I have been pointing out for a long time now. It's got nothing to do with Jews. There are Conservative Jews, Moderate Jews, and Radical Communist Jews. Just like every other Race and Religion.

CCP, Islamic Socialist, Islamic Jihadist, Cartels, and what's left of the Democrat Party are all working together. They even got some Neo-Nazis groups working with them. The goal is to destroy Weastetn Civilization. Troskyitism is the tool that gets them there. Hence why the Color Revolution needs put down hard.


The groups I have been mentioning over the years were infiltrated along time ago. Intelligence of their goals is known. It's not a secret. The MSM, Democrat Politicians, and even idiots like Lankford have protected them. That just came to an end.





 

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Charlie Kirk was martyred for his belief in free expression, his faith, and his unabashed love for our country. His sacrifice has steeled our resolve, redoubled our commitment and only increased our determination to save America at this critical turning point. Under the leadership of
@POTUS
Trump and
@Sec_Noem
, we will not stop until our country is secure and the values upon which our nation was founded are protected.
 

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The Jews I mentioned are ALL far left radical socialists with communist leanings that believe in Troskyitism.

Lev Davidovich Bronstein, aka Leon Trotsky, was born into into a wealthy Jewish family.

True...it's not about ALL Jews...this group all hate Benjamin Netanyahu.






The Antifa cell in Corvallis, Ore. has published an after-action report on the fallout from Charlie Kirk’s assassination. They admit fearing the loss of their ability to mark conservatives for death with no pushback — especially as some apolitical institutions, groups and businesses now feel safer expressing sympathy to Kirk’s family and supporters. They also concede that attacks on
@seanfeucht
’s Christian worship events have been a PR disaster, with cameras showing masked Antifa militants assaulting families and children at those events. To counter a possible cultural shift away from their dehumanization tactics that are mainstream on the left, Antifa suggest exploiting divisions on the right to divide and conquer. They suggest using Israel as the wedge issue. https://archive.is/qW0Od
 

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Get what you are saying now. However there are idiots that tried to blame Israel over this. That's how they get the Neo-Nazis and Islamic Jihadist to support them. So all I can say to those that don't support Israel or are critical of them is don't get suckered into falling for that. Their movement accepts anyone that wants to destroy Weastetn Civilization. Until they don't.
The Antifa cell in Corvallis, Ore. has published an after-action report on the fallout from Charlie Kirk’s assassination. They admit fearing the loss of their ability to mark conservatives for death with no pushback — especially as some apolitical institutions, groups and businesses now feel safer expressing sympathy to Kirk’s family and supporters. They also concede that attacks on
@seanfeucht
’s Christian worship events have been a PR disaster, with cameras showing masked Antifa militants assaulting families and children at those events. To counter a possible cultural shift away from their dehumanization tactics that are mainstream on the left, Antifa suggest exploiting divisions on the right to divide and conquer. They suggest using Israel as the wedge issue. https://archive.is/qW0Od